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[Arthur Cousland]

ItsTheTruth wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Bah, the hands & people are fine as they are.Who cares about hand art work?

I do, since the day I witnessed this abomination:

Is that a scar around Merrill's neck?  That reminds me of Franken-Leandra.

[Emzamination]

FieryDove wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

cinematic or not, they just aren't worth mentioning.If they are such a bother, invest in some plate gloves.

I did but DA2 did not allow me to equip companions armor so the hands would not...go away.

and the Maker said "Let there be Mods" and all was well in Thedas once more

[Emzamination]

Melca36 wrote...


True but in Origins they were FULLY rendered and looked more real.

Nay, they're all created with the same warden face/hair/ect customizations save for a few unique models.I should know as I've duplicated faces I thought were really beautiful on my warden.

Um you can't dress/customize other characters.     Did you even play the game?

Tbh I had Hawke in mind when I made that comment

[Wulfram]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

Is that a scar around Merrill's neck?  That reminds me of Franken-Leandra.

There's a join where the head attaches to the body.  It's why everyone wears necklaces and scarves.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

LinksOcarina wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

The funny thing is that, despite having really good textures on PC, neither of the games look as good as the original Mass Effect. That game is now almost five years old.

Oh god, no. Mass Effect looks like plastic dolls being set up to stand around and move while shooting wooden guns.
It is terrible, and sadly the unreal 3 engine still is not good enough for that series either, because the graphical quality in Mass Effect 3 was weak. I suspect this is why they had a grain filter on the whole game.

As for Dragon Age II, I actually like the new art style more, mainly because of distinctivness. I can now tell the difference between an Elf and a Human for one. Perhaps tone down the ear size just a bit or fatten the cheeks a little for them, but that would be my only change.

And to be honest, the schemes in Dragon Age: Origins kind of bored me to death. The Darkspawn were ok in both games, but everything just looked...generic honestly in Origins. It was not appealing to look at, other than the demon character models (which I think were well made, especially rage, desire, and pride demons) and some armor designs at times. 

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The Mass Effect games (especially 3) outshine the Dragon Age games in both graphics and art. It's not even a competiton.

Unreal Engine 3 is a damn good engine and that's why it's licensed by so many dev studios. It's superior to The Odyssey/Lycium engines (updated Aurora), which was created by BioWare for NWN and KOTOR and powers both Dragon Age 1&2.

UE3 not good enough for Mass Effect? Please. This is the most current version of UE3. It's what the engine can do right now. What's holding Mass Effect back is the ancient console hardware it's primarily designed for and to some extent, BioWare themselves.

Seriously though, they've been using the Aurora engine since NWN.

You throw out things at me that I honestly can care less about.

Simply put, Mass Effect as a series has always been graphically weak when compared to contemporaries. Asethetically it has been really good, but animation-wise the system was showing age by Mass Effect 3. Dragon Age, the graphics work for the setting basically, it's not as realistic, but it is simpler and has a "other-world" style to them.

Well, I have no control over what you choose to care about. But the facts are with me.

What facts?

Yes, the graphics are sharper in Mass Effect 3 compared to Dragon Age. But sharper and/or realistic graphics do not necessarily correlate to a better graphical experience, or even a true asethetic design of the game-world. 

Basically, realism works in certain games. Mass Effect was one of the games it was not necessary. It looked pretty, but it often clashed with the design of the world, the movement/ facial expressions of characters, enviornments, creature design, and so forth. 

The facts I linked to above. They prove UE3 is more than good enough for Mass Effect.

[SafetyShattered]

The only thing I liked was the qunari. Everything else I really REALLY disliked. Especially the hands. Bethany's hands looked terrible in particular. They gave me nightmares...

[Wrathion]

Shadowfang12 wrote...

The only thing I liked was the qunari. Everything else I really REALLY disliked. Especially the hands. Bethany's hands looked terrible in particular. They gave me nightmares...

She's worked on a farm her entire life, of course they would look like that.

[SafetyShattered]

^ Are you being for real or are you joking? I honestly can't tell lol,

[The Hierophant]

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Shadowfang12 wrote...

The only thing I liked was the qunari. Everything else I really REALLY disliked. Especially the hands. Bethany's hands looked terrible in particular. They gave me nightmares...

She's worked on a farm her entire life, of course they would look like that.

I don't know about that? Her face doesn't look weathered enough and her neck muscles lack definition.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 28 juillet 2012 - 10:48 .

[Emzamination]

Shadowfang12 wrote...

^ Are you being for real or are you joking? I honestly can't tell lol,

She worked on a farm and was constantly on the run from templars scraping out an existence in the butt end of lothering, of course she's going to have rough hands as a result of her hard life.You must be joking if you think her hands would be pretty and smooth after what she's been through.Same can be said for merrill,Anders,Isabella,hawke,varric and fenris.

[SafetyShattered]

Emzamination wrote...

Shadowfang12 wrote...

^ Are you being for real or are you joking? I honestly can't tell lol,

She worked on a farm and was constantly on the run from templars scraping out an existence in the butt end of lothering, of course she's going to have rough hands as a result of her hard life.You must be joking if you think her hands would be pretty and smooth after what she's been through.Same can be said for merrill,Anders,Isabella,hawke,varric and fenris.

Wow.....how did I not know that lol? I honestly had no idea she worked on a farm, and I beat DA2 like 3 times. Wow...that's just sad. Thanks for telling me. That's a bit more understandable.

Modifié par Shadowfang12, 28 juillet 2012 - 08:09 .

[ReallyRue]

Emzamination wrote...

Shadowfang12 wrote...

^ Are you being for real or are you joking? I honestly can't tell lol,

She worked on a farm and was constantly on the run from templars scraping out an existence in the butt end of lothering, of course she's going to have rough hands as a result of her hard life.You must be joking if you think her hands would be pretty and smooth after what she's been through.Same can be said for merrill,Anders,Isabella,hawke,varric and fenris.

Well, of them all I would think Isabela's are understandable, considering her life's been pretty gritty, and she's been a sailor for years.

[Emzamination]

Shadowfang12 wrote...

Wow.....how did I not know that lol? I honestly had no idea she worked on a farm, and I beat DA2 like 3 times. Wow...that's just sad. Thanks for telling me. That's a bit more understandable.

Yes, yes it is.Maybe on playthrough number 4 you'll actually pay attention and learn something tho that's not set in stone, one can hope.

[Emzamination]

ReallyRue wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Shadowfang12 wrote...

^ Are you being for real or are you joking? I honestly can't tell lol,

She worked on a farm and was constantly on the run from templars scraping out an existence in the butt end of lothering, of course she's going to have rough hands as a result of her hard life.You must be joking if you think her hands would be pretty and smooth after what she's been through.Same can be said for merrill,Anders,Isabella,hawke,varric and fenris.

Well, of them all I would think Isabela's are understandable, considering her life's been pretty gritty, and she's been a sailor for years.

I'm surprised isabela has all her fingers considering all the knife fights she gets into

[Wrathion]

The Hierophant wrote...

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Shadowfang12 wrote...

The only thing I liked was the qunari. Everything else I really REALLY disliked. Especially the hands. Bethany's hands looked terrible in particular. They gave me nightmares...

She's worked on a farm her entire life, of course they would look like that.

I don't know about that? Her face doesn't look weathered enough and her neck muscles lack definition.

Haha, very few women in any video game series have weathered faces or defined musculature. I'm sure you know this. I think they settled for the hands so they wouldn't have to deal with 'BUT WHY IS HER FACE SO UGLY AND CRACKED VIDEO GAME LADIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEXY EWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEWEW!!!!" But they do that for every other Bethany that's not the default so LOL

I wish there was a vanilla face texture for acne, that would be cute for either Carver or Bethany.

Modifié par Alexandrine Delassixe, 28 juillet 2012 - 11:21 .

[ItsTheTruth]

Emzamination wrote...

Shadowfang12 wrote...

^ Are you being for real or are you joking? I honestly can't tell lol,

She worked on a farm and was constantly on the run from templars scraping out an existence in the butt end of lothering, of course she's going to have rough hands as a result of her hard life.You must be joking if you think her hands would be pretty and smooth after what she's been through.Same can be said for merrill,Anders,Isabella,hawke,varric and fenris.

What the hell are you talking about? Everybody in the Dragon Age universe has a reason for having horribly deformed hands and a Frankenstein neck?? Or, maybe the game is just ugly and you pull any reason to defend its many defaults out of your butt.

Modifié par ItsTheTruth, 28 juillet 2012 - 11:21 .

[Wrathion]

ItsTheTruth wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Shadowfang12 wrote...

^ Are you being for real or are you joking? I honestly can't tell lol,

She worked on a farm and was constantly on the run from templars scraping out an existence in the butt end of lothering, of course she's going to have rough hands as a result of her hard life.You must be joking if you think her hands would be pretty and smooth after what she's been through.Same can be said for merrill,Anders,Isabella,hawke,varric and fenris.

What the hell are you talking about? Everybody in the Dragon Age universe has a reason for having horribly deformed hands and a Frankenstein neck?? Or, maybe the game is just ugly and you pull any reason to defend its many defaults out of your butt.

Someone's salty.  

[Emzamination]

ItsTheTruth wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Shadowfang12 wrote...

^ Are you being for real or are you joking? I honestly can't tell lol,

She worked on a farm and was constantly on the run from templars scraping out an existence in the butt end of lothering, of course she's going to have rough hands as a result of her hard life.You must be joking if you think her hands would be pretty and smooth after what she's been through.Same can be said for merrill,Anders,Isabella,hawke,varric and fenris.

What the hell are you talking about? Everybody in the Dragon Age universe has a reason for having horribly deformed hands and a Frankenstein neck?? Or, maybe the game is just ugly and you pull any reason to defend its many defaults out of your butt.

No one has a frakenstein neck except for leandra that little line is just a flesh crease for the neck.Deformed is such a strong word to use in this case...lets say rough and dry hands but yes, when I can no longer give reason for someone having rough hands, I'll eat my own words.You need to learn to rationalize and rp more truth or you'll drive yourself crazy going critical "over" every nook and crannie.

Modifié par Emzamination, 28 juillet 2012 - 11:39 .

[Rxdiaz]

DA2 graphics suck.
DA2 story sucks.
DA2 gameplay sucks.

But otherwise it was a fine game....

[Emzamination]

Rxdiaz wrote...

DA2 graphics suck.
DA2 story sucks.
DA2 gameplay sucks.

But otherwise it was a fine game....

You say everything sucks and deducing from your past threads/post, you don't even attempt to comprehend the story before dubbing it a failure.I don't think you're the Ideal person to be giving gameplay and story reviews otherwise carry on

[Wrathion]

Emzamination wrote...

ItsTheTruth wrote...

What the hell are you talking about? Everybody in the Dragon Age universe has a reason for having horribly deformed hands and a Frankenstein neck?? Or, maybe the game is just ugly and you pull any reason to defend its many defaults out of your butt.

No one has a frakenstein neck except for leandra that little line is just a flesh crease for the neck.Deformed is such a strong word to use in this case...lets say rough and dry hands but yes, when I can no longer give reason for someone having rough hands, I'll eat my own words.You need to learn to rationalize and rp more truth or you'll drive yourself crazy going critical "over" every nook and crannie.

I actually think they're talking about Merrills neck. Or maybe the necks of all the DA2 elves. But...just misused "Frankenstein" as you said the Leandra is the only one that fits the literal description so it doesn't make much sense unless you know how rabid DA2 dissenters think.

If Bioware wanted to give them smooth, blemish free hands they would have. Doesn't make the game ugly when they decided (for once) to be realistic(-ish). 

Cracked and bruised hands aren't going to kill you ,calm down.

Modifié par Alexandrine Delassixe, 28 juillet 2012 - 11:53 .

[ItsTheTruth]

Emzamination wrote...
No one has a frakenstein neck except for leandra that little line is just a flesh crease for the neck.Deformed is such a strong word to use in this case...lets say rough and dry hands but yes, when I can no longer give reason for someone having rough hands, I'll eat my own words.

You need to learn to rationalize and rp more truth or you'll drive yourself crazy going critical "over" every nook and crannie.

More like, one would go crazy trying to "rationalize" every major default of DA2, so just admit the game sucks and that the terrible art style sure doesn't help.

Modifié par ItsTheTruth, 28 juillet 2012 - 11:58 .

[Rxdiaz]

Lol, I don't comprehend the story? Sorry it sucks.

DA2 is basically like having 3 lousy DLC's stuck together.

Oh yea, this story is real deep and profound... Lol

DA2 is cr@p

[Wrathion]

ItsTheTruth wrote...

Emzamination wrote...
No one has a frakenstein neck except for leandra that little line is just a flesh crease for the neck.Deformed is such a strong word to use in this case...lets say rough and dry hands but yes, when I can no longer give reason for someone having rough hands, I'll eat my own words.

You need to learn to rationalize and rp more truth or you'll drive yourself crazy going critical "over" every nook and crannie.

More like, one would go crazy trying to "rationalize" every major default of DA2, so just admit the game sucks and that the terrible art style sure doesn't help.

That's not "Frankenstein", honey. An NPC's hands are a major fault in DA2?

Rxdiaz wrote...

Lol, I don't comprehend the story? Sorry it sucks.

DA2 is basically like having 3 lousy DLC's stuck together.

Oh yea, this story is real deep and profound... Lol

DA2 is cr@p

Cool story, Bro.

You know the Origins forum and this one are right next to one another.

Modifié par Alexandrine Delassixe, 29 juillet 2012 - 12:27 .

[ItsTheTruth]

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...An NPC's hands are a major fault in DA2?

No, but the terrible art style (topic of this thread) is. Look at that screenshot again. Everything in it is ugly or rushed. Yet someone in development presumably played through it and said, "Good enough!".

This is not nitpicking, because it is taken from a major "cinematic" cutscene of the game, and because it reflects the general quality of DA2 graphics. KOTOR and Jade Empire look better than DA2, despite their age. That is why a strong art style is important for a game...

Modifié par ItsTheTruth, 29 juillet 2012 - 01:15 .