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[th3warr1or]

Granted that that would mean a lot more character banter and more characters, I'm pretty sure 5years could have accomplished that.

[The Capital Gaultier]

You get an opportunity at the one point in the plot where it's possible to recruit Grey Wardens.

[th3warr1or]

No, you did not. You didn't choose Ser Jory or Daveth, because if there was actually a choice I would have killed Jory on the spot. There is no place for wusses and cowards on my team.

[The Capital Gaultier]

th3warr1or wrote...

No, you did not. You didn't choose Ser Jory or Daveth, because if there was actually a choice I would have killed Jory on the spot. There is no place for wusses and cowards on my team.

Play through the game.  I don't think you've reached that point yet (it's not the beginning).

[fantasypisces]

And the person you are talking about you don't really recruit, he is sort of forced upon you by a senior Grey Warden. And why are we being all secretive about it? This is the spoiler part of the forum.

[Cuthlan]

If the game gave you that opportunity, it would throw one of the large story hooks right out the window.



I *like* that you are supposed to feel outnumbered and overwhelmed throughout the game as the only Grey Wardens in the land and the only people who can actually save the lives of the very people that are working against you.

[Anton de Staen]

I wish that too. The closest you get (With the exception of "that later part"..) is threatening to invoke the Right of Conscription on Sten.

[Vicious]

A flat out missed opportunity by Bioware. Yes you can't TECHNICALLY recruit anyone since you lack Archdemon blood, but they OBVIOUSLY get the blood back towards the end of the game or you can't recruit Loghain, so you can simply have them in tow before the joining takes place.



Keep in mind Duncan does this with the PC as well, so it is perfectly acceptable.



Being able to invoke the right of conscription in extraordinary cases would have definetly added to the overall feel of what it is to be a Grey Warden. Totally a missed opportunity.

[LynxAQ]

Actually the one time you do get to use the right in Lothering, the chantry woman ignores it and doesn't abide by the right of conscription. So much for being able to use it to recruit anybody - What a joke. Definately a massive missed opportunity.

[jtdragon100]

They could at it as a DLC

[th3warr1or]

^^^ That they definitely could...



In a major expansion heading towards Orlais or Anderfels!

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

I know from a post in the past that at one point they did consider the option of giving us said ability but I believe it is another thing that was axed/dropped due to resource limitations or other such things.



Really the only people that probably would have been in the choices would have been the party members and how many of them do you think would take it? I can't see many of them doing so either freely or via the right of conscription.



Sten and Morrigan would no doubt leave the group and am pretty sure the others would have to be forced into it.



As for people outside the party, think about it logically for a moment, that means having to create 'party banter' talk for them as well as possibly a 'personal quest' and conversations between them and the PC as well. Also the only time it would be accessible is after the Landsmeet.

[Kalcalan]

The fact is the main character is barely a Grey Warden and has no idea how the Joining actually works and only learns what being a Grey Warden really entails at the end. Even if they knew how the Joining worked there is no insurance that one would pass the test or end up like Daveth.



Alistair is still a rookie too so it makes sense in the story and we can only assume this was a deliberate choice by the devs.



IMO it makes the game feel more challenging, you're one of the two Grey Wardens left in Ferelden after all.

[fantasypisces]

In terms of the right of conscription on party members, I agree Morrigan and Sten would just give you the bird and leave. Zevran might if forced into it. You obviously can't make shale do it. Oghren would laugh and say he has already killed more darkspawn then you probably ever will, so will stay, but not become a Warden I don't think. Then Wynne wouldn't survive the joining because she is too old.



Leliana on the other hand I think would consider it. Whether or not she would go through with it is unclear, but I think she would really think about it. And, if I might add, I think she would survive the joining. But from my characters point of view, I was rather pissed about being forced to join, then find out there is no glory in it, it is purely a death sentence. So I would only really recruit those who are absolutely willing (i.e. say the want to join) or are such evil ****s that you might as well. Loghain is the exception to this because of his initial betrayel against the Wardens, I don't trust him at all.

[Vicious]

IMO it makes the game feel more challenging, you're one of the two Grey Wardens left in Ferelden after all.

Which makes absolutely no sense because outside of combat neither of you can die. Ever.



That said the right of conscription should have been used for one character: Jowan, since he's dead meat in Eamon's/Circle's hands and he was really trying to turn his life around. Sure he's a wuss but if you unwussified him through dialogue then he could survive the Joining and become what he always wanted to be: A tough as hell mage who commands respect and has nothing to fear from the Templars.



Another missed opportunity right there. But maybe DLC...

[DPSSOC]

I wouldn't have minded it but it's not like they just ignore the possibility. Alistair will explain why you can't make any Grey Wardens yourself (mainly you don't know how). It wouldn't make sense to gather a following of people to be made Grey Wardens because again Alistair mentions you have no viable means of contacting the other Grey Wardens and no idea how long it will be until they come to see what's up.



The Right of Conscription is null and void since Loghain has declared the Grey Wardens traitors and revoked that privelege from them. So the only way to conscript people would be through threats of violence (otherwise you're just convincing them to join voluntarily), and even then the Grey Wardens have no official power anymore. The only reason most people don't attack/attempt to arrest you on sight is either A) They don't know you're a Warden or They don't want to fight a Grey Warden (out of repsect or fear you pick).

[WTFocker]

Only Riordan knows how to do the Joining... he even tells you about all the documents relating to it that you found in Howe's estate. So it makes sense you can't make any wardens beforehand since you and Alistair don't know how to do it.