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[brblx]

I will say the same thing I say in most of these types of threads:

Just because you're making the most of something, and doing well with it, does not make it 'good.' While I respect people for playing what they want and being unique, you can't just say something is awesome because it works.

Put a soccer mom in an F1 car and an Andretti in a minivan. I bet the minivan wins. Doesn't make it better.

I will give the OP credit for not saying what other 'N7 slayer is awesome' threads have said...'spam electric slash through walls.' Dudes, it's shockwave with a charge-up time. When someone says that, I have to assume they've never tried most of the adepts.

[ThelLastTruePatriot]

LadyNemsis21 wrote...

Not gonna lie, Slayer doesn't suck. I just suck at playing him. Have seen people top the scoreboards with one. He's just not my style.

 Agreed, I'm just not good with vanguards, that and I'm rarely the host of a game (I start them when I can but for some reason the lobby just never fills up, could be the times I choose to play I dunno) Also heard people saying the paladin is supposed to be this incredible support player, but I sure as heck can't seem to do it right, hard to be tanky with team mates all off doing their own schtick.

[Grinch57]

Guess I'm an outlier, not big on biotic charge, played vangaurd, but never really enjoyed it.  Got Slayer yesterday, played it then, absolutely sucked at it, did nothing to help my team and all they got out of it was constantly having to revive me.  Today started out, before wave 1, practicing some of the powers. 

The light finally came on.  

Respecced to 0/6/6/6/6, with the lvl 6 passive allowing me to drop pistol ULM and go with AP and EB.  Also shield boost in equipment bonus.  One comment I think is right, you only need one gun for backup and for Guardians (AP mod).  With +200%, specced for fast CD and damage, I can spam Slash near continuously (far away from my sniper-wielding buds).  It's not a melee weapon, it's a close and mid-range weapon.  I use Phase D as my sniper rifle, to take down boss shields from cover.  Then go spam them with Slash.  

I can carry the pizza or provide great cover for the carrier.  I can help the team in major ways in the escort mission and can provide awesome help both with hack missions and the resets.  When reviving, a quick blast as I approach my fallen companion clears the way for a quick revive.  There are limitations.  Pretty much a glass cannon.  As someone said, I've learned to step back after firing off, when trying to hold position.  Forward movement got me killed several times before I got that down.  

OBTW, during the animation build up, you can continue to aim where slash goes, that was quite an insight.

Still learning, with only two days experience, but while at first I hated it, I now really enjoy it.  Still like the Fury better, but now have a vanguard that I actually enjoy playing.  Also want to say I am not claiming to be some awesome player, I am not.  On my best days I am average, but if an average player can rock the joint with Slayer, a really good player would be a sight to behold.

[Unfair_Banana]

I like the PD, but at range, it's extremely hard to hit things. Once that gets fixed, this will be my new favorite Vanguard.

[Rafahil893]

shadowkinz wrote...

Hexi-decimal wrote...

shadowkinz wrote...

slashing an atlas?

=/

i also have a pla-
nevermind OP gonna get mad at me =(
haha ^^

Yeah...?  Issue?

I've had quite a few atlases give me hugs.. much unwanted, borderline sodomy, hugs =(  Please introduce me to the friendly, docile ones please! =D

Also rafahil (sup btw it's themmobro ^^), i dunno b/c the heavy melee itself should stagger the mob so i don't see much of a difference.  Unless you do it before hand to stop them from shooting you while you are teleporting (seems you can be hit during the heavy melee teleport phase)

hi hi themmobro \\\\(^-^)   Let's hope the devs take a look at this to maximize the fun that can be had with the class.

[ToLazy4Name]

brblx wrote...

I will say the same thing I say in most of these types of threads:

Just because you're making the most of something, and doing well with it, does not make it 'good.' While I respect people for playing what they want and being unique, you can't just say something is awesome because it works.

Put a soccer mom in an F1 car and an Andretti in a minivan. I bet the minivan wins. Doesn't make it better.

I will give the OP credit for not saying what other 'N7 slayer is awesome' threads have said...'spam electric slash through walls.' Dudes, it's shockwave with a charge-up time. When someone says that, I have to assume they've never tried most of the adepts.

If you'll take the time to read near the top of my original post, you'll notice that i said something along the lines of "I'm not gonna tell you how to play, but this is what i've been doing, and it's working for me thus far."

[JerZey CJ]

Would a 6/6/6/0/6 build work? Or would not having power damage bonuses weaken your attacks too much?

[Atheosis]

Saw a guy score 150k by spamming nothing but Biotic Slash all game long. The class doesn't suck in terms of power, but god is it poorly designed.

[ToLazy4Name]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Would a 6/6/6/0/6 build work? Or would not having power damage bonuses weaken your attacks too much?

Without those power bonuses, Phase Disruptor would be greatly weakened. 

[ParaNeuman]

My heavy melee with the Slayer works 98% of the time, what is this talk about not using heavy melee? Just make sure to have a lock on the target and be withing10m to one chop basic troops, and lighter shield troops. I grew tired of the biotic slash and went for phase disruptor, won't be going back.

[ScuuubaSteeeve]

I thought he sucked too, then i found this out as well, i tanked 4 hunters 3 pyros 3 rocket troops and a prime like this, killed all of them by myself, great! Lol and phase dis is great too, partner it with shield rech equipment

[usctrojanbulldog]

Run the same build as OP and it works well for me. But you really need to "live" the build and work on learning the class. Once you get it, it makes classes like the shadow seem, well, boring.

[DungeonHoek]

I tried your build out and I rather like it. It actually makes the Slayer a viable option for me to use, instead of just standing behind something and spamming Biotic slash.

And while I don't know how viable the build will be the higher the difficulty goes, it does act as I envisioned the slayer to be. Also I see where your coming from about the light combo making the character pretty durable. What with him constantly teleporting while attacking.

[HellishFiend]

Great post, OP. I will definitely try this playstyle out.

[SavagelyEpic]

brblx wrote...

I will say the same thing I say in most of these types of threads:

Just because you're making the most of something, and doing well with it, does not make it 'good.' While I respect people for playing what they want and being unique, you can't just say something is awesome because it works.

Put a soccer mom in an F1 car and an Andretti in a minivan. I bet the minivan wins. Doesn't make it better.

I will give the OP credit for not saying what other 'N7 slayer is awesome' threads have said...'spam electric slash through walls.' Dudes, it's shockwave with a charge-up time. When someone says that, I have to assume they've never tried most of the adepts.

+1

I went with this melee build of my own accord the moment I got the slayer (skipped biotic slash), and I likewise only used heavy melee to teleport through walls/up ladders.

I still think it's only silver viable. He's survivable, but it's highly situational. If charge refuses to tick, or you don't have an enemy to charge, or you get staggered (and he does get staggered, A LOT) then it's a death sentence.

In fact, you can't even pause to revive a teammate literally lying at your feet, because the moment you do you're sacrificing your DR. Even at full shields and health with a Cyclonic Mod III and a Shield Booster V, you won't survive the few seconds needed to revive someone.

I also tried using Hydraulic Joints V and a Strength Booster III with a melee stunner V and even then, he simply doesn't do enough damage to stay alive.

[mightysasquatch]

is the shields of the slayer bugged? someone was saying maxing fitness didn't do anything? not checked as I only play him a couple of times so far

[corporal doody]

I have not once said the Slayer sucks....just atm..it is almost unplayable for me....rather..NO FUN AT ALL.

It is one those characters that should be AMAZING to play...but something is off with the timing. The charge into heavy melee doesnt work 85% of the time.

Disruptor beam to stun....into a charge...into a heavy melee or regular spam of melee should be awesome....BUT IT DOESNT WORK!

Spamming melee....you go THROUGH the bad guy sometime...lose sight and get the back of your head beaten in. It is sooooo easy to lose sight... the Slayer should be able to dust a small group (2 or 3) of trash mobs with maxed melee damage (melee boosting gear too)...but instead....THINGS GET MESSY AND FAST. leap to the side to reacquire target....you get splatted by the badguy you just went through....

maybe it is better to use it as host...but right now...something isnt right with the class. i would love to use it if they ever fixed the small issues

Modifié par corporal doody, 27 juillet 2012 - 07:31 .

[maverick--07--]

After seeing the Charge and PD combo in vids I gave the Slayer another shot in silver earlier. I tried it when the DLC came out and didn't like it at all before probably cause I was using Biotic Slash too much.

I can definitely see him being viable in Gold for me now. Still, haven't checked out the melee much, not sure if it's worth it for me as I do like having Biotic Slash to sync with other Biotics and do good damage when I'm not charging.

[TehMerc]

Would rather have them take off some of the damage from the specialization at the end of PD's evolution tree and add it in baseline, wouldn't feel like you need to spec shields to deal with trash effectively.

Usually run a 6/6/5/6/3 build and spec PD for armor damage, don't feel like such a bother against boss types that you can't melee safely, and just bring an acolyte with Ultralight for taking down shields incase I'm alone. Alternating PD and Slash makes pretty quick work of trash, or just charging to get more shots ready does the trick too.

It's far from a bad class, just some annoying issues, like dodge not always working reliably or heavy melee.

[Kanub]

ThelLastTruePatriot wrote...

LadyNemsis21 wrote...

Not gonna lie, Slayer doesn't suck. I just suck at playing him. Have seen people top the scoreboards with one. He's just not my style.

 Agreed, I'm just not good with vanguards, that and I'm rarely the host of a game (I start them when I can but for some reason the lobby just never fills up, could be the times I choose to play I dunno) Also heard people saying the paladin is supposed to be this incredible support player, but I sure as heck can't seem to do it right, hard to be tanky with team mates all off doing their own schtick.

I'm just flat-out too much of a cowardly player to play as any CQC character

[Prawny]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

The ONLY bad part about the Slayer is that you have to be the host if you want to play him aggresively, like my build. This applies to all of the Vanguards to a certain degree, but especially the Slayer. 

This is the only reason I don't use Vanguards... It's such a shame

[xis3]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

The ONLY bad part about the Slayer is that you have to be the host if you want to play him aggresively, like my build. This applies to all of the Vanguards to a certain degree, but especially the Slayer. 

pretty much this, only good if host

[kira28]

i would suggest taking biotic slash also. A power that does over 1000 damage with a less than 2 sec recharge speed is weak? plus you can do biotic slash till your barrier regenerates to do your phase disruptor.

[MercenaryNo]

ToLazy4Name wrote...
Fitness: Melee damage, Martial Artist,

So why do Martial Artist if you never do heavy melee?

[tonnactus]

ToLazy4Name wrote...
You get an INSANE Damage Reduction while doing the Light Melee combo. Literally, you can stand in front of a Cerberus Turret on Gold and it won't take away a 5th of your health.

Shouldnt it be the other way round? Sounds like a coding error or bug.