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[effect of the mass]

I fail to see how people farming FBWGG ruins the game for anyone. You can always play a different map.

[A Wild Snorlax]

Relix28 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

Get rid of hunter's ignoring stunlock, decrease their chance of staggering us, and fix the burst fire missile launcher, and we'll talk.

This.

Giving them grenades on top of all thier cheap broken stuff, would only make this terribly tedious faction even worse than it is now. 

When/if they decide to fix the geth, and all the incredible cheap and broken stuff associated with it, then I'm all up for giving them some sort of cover flushing capabilites (grenades or otherwise). However, I'm not sure it would stop the farmers. Maybe temporarily, but sooner or later, someone would find a new path of least resistance, and farming would continue in all its boring glory.

Relix son I am dissapoint. We both now that geth are too easy and not cheap, and the suggestions I've made are totally reasonable. Really. 

[Ashen One]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

Get rid of hunter's ignoring stunlock, decrease their chance of staggering us, and fix the burst fire missile launcher, and we'll talk.

This.

Giving them grenades on top of all thier cheap broken stuff, would only make this terribly tedious faction even worse than it is now. 

When/if they decide to fix the geth, and all the incredible cheap and broken stuff associated with it, then I'm all up for giving them some sort of cover flushing capabilites (grenades or otherwise). However, I'm not sure it would stop the farmers. Maybe temporarily, but sooner or later, someone would find a new path of least resistance, and farming would continue in all its boring glory.

Relix son I am dissapoint. We both now that geth are too easy and not cheap, and the suggestions I've made are totally reasonable. Really. 

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:25 .

[megabeast37215]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Just when I thought nothing could be worse than the Marauder elbow of doom.

This all seems fairly reasonable to me, idk why so many people are disagreeing really 

Because some people disagree with the tactic of running around and prefer to hold the line... in fact, the overwhelming majority hold the line.

You seem to want to do away with the ability to camp... why?

Is FBWGG and FBWGP abused as a farm... sure it is. I wouldn't mind the geth having a grenade... but I do disagree with instantly detonating arc grenades like the players have (which are OP in their own right thanks to Demolisher Pylon and Grenade Gear V). That would be a death sentence for Destroyers, Krogans and any other slow moving unit. It needs to have a timer... shorter than the other crap grenades would be fine, but players need to have some (small) chance of escaping. What you propose will punish the tactics of what I estimate to be 75%+ of the player base, and only reward the ones who like to run around and spawn rape (who at the same time act like dumping 4 grenades on a spawn takes some form of elite skill).

[Prince Bubblegeth]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If they weren't so cheap I'd agree.

[A Wild Snorlax]

megabeast37215 wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Just when I thought nothing could be worse than the Marauder elbow of doom.

This all seems fairly reasonable to me, idk why so many people are disagreeing really 

Because some people disagree with the tactic of running around and prefer to hold the line... in fact, the overwhelming majority hold the line.

You seem to want to do away with the ability to camp... why?

Is FBWGG and FBWGP abused as a farm... sure it is. I wouldn't mind the geth having a grenade... but I do disagree with instantly detonating arc grenades like the players have (which are OP in their own right thanks to Demolisher Pylon and Grenade Gear V). That would be a death sentence for Destroyers, Krogans and any other slow moving unit. It needs to have a timer... shorter than the other crap grenades would be fine, but players need to have some (small) chance of escaping. What you propose will punish the tactics of what I estimate to be 75%+ of the player base, and only reward the ones who like to run around and spawn rape (who at the same time act like dumping 4 grenades on a spawn takes some form of elite skill).

Are you trying to imply that speedrunning on glacier is in any way shape or form similar to farming?

Earlier I was doing platinum speedruns with a group of guys from this forum on glacier, we were spawnrushing with grenade spam and rocket zerging. 

This is a legit tactic and it takes a lot of elite skill to do unlike other farming tactics. I'm not sure what you're trying to imply with your comment about ''acting'' but I will not stand for it!

[Kyerea]

megabeast37215 wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Just when I thought nothing could be worse than the Marauder elbow of doom.

This all seems fairly reasonable to me, idk why so many people are disagreeing really 

Because some people disagree with the tactic of running around and prefer to hold the line... in fact, the overwhelming majority hold the line.

You seem to want to do away with the ability to camp... why?

Is FBWGG and FBWGP abused as a farm... sure it is. I wouldn't mind the geth having a grenade... but I do disagree with instantly detonating arc grenades like the players have (which are OP in their own right thanks to Demolisher Pylon and Grenade Gear V). That would be a death sentence for Destroyers, Krogans and any other slow moving unit. It needs to have a timer... shorter than the other crap grenades would be fine, but players need to have some (small) chance of escaping. What you propose will punish the tactics of what I estimate to be 75%+ of the player base, and only reward the ones who like to run around and spawn rape (who at the same time act like dumping 4 grenades on a spawn takes some form of elite skill).

For something so crappy, it sure kills a lot of players every day.

And if they gave the Geth flushing abilities, how would I be able to figure out which idiotic party member(s) in my party farm FBWGG/P all day in my FBWRG/P games? YOU ARE SUCH AN INCONSIDERATE DOUCHEBAG OP111!!11!11 ;______;

*Cries*

Modifié par Kyerea, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:36 .

[megabeast37215]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Are you trying to imply that speedrunning on glacier is in any way shape or form similar to farming?

Earlier I was doing platinum speedruns with a group of guys from this forum on glacier, we were spawnrushing with grenade spam and rocket zerging. 

This is a legit tactic and it takes a lot of elite skill to do unlike other farming tactics. I'm not sure what you're trying to imply with your comment about ''acting'' but I will not stand for it!

That's exactly what I'm implying. Rocketing/nade spamming a spawn then patting yourself on the back is... moronic. All it means is that someone has memorized the spawn points and knows how to make enemies spawn where you want them... congratulations.

[megabeast37215]

Kyerea wrote...

For something so crappy, it sure kills a lot of players every day.

The shoddy grenade indicator is more to blame for that than the grenades themselves. People randomly stepping on one while walking around (who were not in the area when the grenade was thrown) is unavoidable.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:39 .

[Muhkida]

I think the Geth should have grenade tossing capabilities, but Arc Grenades? Kind of weird for the heretical Geth to be having the possession of Quarian made armaments.

Why not something new....like plasma grenades, or Krogan babies?

Modifié par Muhkida, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:41 .

[UKillMeLongTime]

Hey, just don't play that map host your own

LEAVE SHI% ALONE

if i want a 24 to 26 min game on FBW thats my business. I tend to change classes and maps when bored but when i want $$ i do what is easier. It still requires a decent team. And you dont have to use a decoy if u want to really keep it tough

If i want more challenge it's there and easy to find, In fact a lot of maps with a team not paired up well is a defeat, a brutal one. Hell most maps i don't even want to try yet on platinum

[cowwy]

Your joke






People's heads.

[A Wild Snorlax]

megabeast37215 wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Are you trying to imply that speedrunning on glacier is in any way shape or form similar to farming?

This is a legit tactic and it takes a lot of elite skill to do unlike other farming tactics. I'm not sure what you're trying to imply with your comment about ''acting'' but I will not stand for it!

All it means is that someone has memorized the spawn points and knows how to make enemies spawn where you want them... congratulations.

Thank you good sir. I too felt like it was a great achievement, probably the pinnacle of my gaming career. Anyway this conversation albeit pleasant is complete off topic, so back to discussing much needed geth buffs.

Extended range on the geth pyros anyone? The vorcha flamer got it's range doubled recently, only seems fair that the do something about the geth pyros as well.

[megabeast37215]

cowwy wrote...

Your joke






People's heads.

Ohh I got the subtle troll... but I do think Geth should have grenades. They are still the easiest faction IMO... largely b/c their heads are huge and so easy to take off.. and their straight line marches make them super predictable. It is still beyond me how people struggle with Geth...

[Star fury]

Agreed. Add instakilling geth hunters to arc grenades. I'm also waiting when Bioware fix prime's drone so it can shoot rockets and flank players.

[UKillMeLongTime]

also the damn primes curving pew pew pew gun destroys shields in two hits
their turrets on platinum suck hard

and you want them to have arc nades that are huge area affect weapons

again do this

only use the predator and avenger on gold on the original classes and have a challenge....trying to scratch the paint off a prime on gold much less kill it
Dont use ammo consumables either and you and others stop making f';ing nerf threads.

[Cellar_Cat]

I would actually rather they were given grenades and other INTERESTING things instead of their present snorefest with the odd stunlock that makes me want to just not play on random anymore.

[DAO MAdhatter]

[megabeast37215]

UKillMeLongTime wrote...

also the damn primes curving pew pew pew gun destroys shields in two hits
their turrets on platinum suck hard

and you want them to have arc nades that are huge area affect weapons

again do this

only use the predator and avenger on gold on the original classes and have a challenge....trying to scratch the paint off a prime on gold much less kill it
Dont use ammo consumables either and you and others stop making f';ing nerf threads.

We beat Platinum with 4 Human Soldiers with Avengers and concussive shot, no grenades, no rockets... but we did use ammo boosts. Took an hour but it's doable... Reapers/London. There's a video of it somewhere around here... but it's pretty boring IMO.

[A Wild Snorlax]

Star fury wrote...

Agreed. Add instakilling geth hunters to arc grenades. I'm also waiting when Bioware fix prime's drone so it can shoot rockets and flank players.

Lmao I totally forgot about that, need to add it to the OP. Crossfire rockets from rocket troopers and prime drones would definately be a sight to behold.

cowwy wrote...

Your joke




People's heads.

 

Needs moar smileys? 

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:52 .

[megabeast37215]

Cellar_Cat wrote...

I would actually rather they were given grenades and other INTERESTING things instead of their present snorefest with the odd stunlock that makes me want to just not play on random anymore.

I'll take stunlock over BS Banshee grabs and stupid flippy Phantoms w/ hand of denial anyday...

[Sdrol117]

 Trolololol

[Taritu]

Oh god no, completely OP for those of us who don't farm.

[Sdrol117]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Are you trying to imply that speedrunning on glacier is in any way shape or form similar to farming?

This is a legit tactic and it takes a lot of elite skill to do unlike other farming tactics. I'm not sure what you're trying to imply with your comment about ''acting'' but I will not stand for it!

All it means is that someone has memorized the spawn points and knows how to make enemies spawn where you want them... congratulations.

Thank you good sir. I too felt like it was a great achievement, probably the pinnacle of my gaming career. Anyway this conversation albeit pleasant is complete off topic, so back to discussing much needed geth buffs.

Extended range on the geth pyros anyone? The vorcha flamer got it's range doubled recently, only seems fair that the do something about the geth pyros as well.

Were you trolling here too? I sure hope so. 

[DAO MAdhatter]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Cellar_Cat wrote...

I would actually rather they were given grenades and other INTERESTING things instead of their present snorefest with the odd stunlock that makes me want to just not play on random anymore.

I'll take stunlock over BS Banshee grabs and stupid flippy Phantoms w/ hand of denial anyday...

Dude, no.

Phantoms are super flimsy, take a harrier, slap an ammo mod on it & give to an asary, then stasus them, walla, no more phantom.

As for Banshees, they can only do that when they get close. Solution? Dont let them get close, they are slow even when teleporting to its not too hard to kite them.