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[Optimistman]

Optimistman wrote...

TehMerc wrote...

Optimistman wrote...
I guess i like debating?

You like trolling, at least come out and be honest with it.

And not responding doesn't make it any less true. Have a nice day PessimistMan.

Thanks kid. Same to you.  I'll do myself a favor and take my own advice from now on.

P.S. Thank you Optimistman for the advice. 

You welcome broham.

[Father_Jerusalem]

It seems, to me, as though the ones crying for nerfs are the same ones who will mock and deride people for not having the same skill level as them... and then demand that nerfs be balanced around the assumption that everyone has the same skill level as them.

It's utterly hypocritical, and is, quite frankly, ruining this game. I play, mostly, Silver. Because that's where my skill level is at. Most people play Silver, because that's where their skill level is at. Quite frankly, right now, if I see Geth as the choice of enemy in a lobby, I feel as though there is no choice but to switch to my Destroyer... simply to eliminate the asinine amount of staggers that the Geth do. It's not fun. It's not "strategy". It's just stupid and utterly devoid of fun.

The MP isn't about "fun" anymore. It's about "farming". The people doing it on Platinum and Gold just want to make sure that they're the only ones able to do it, that's all.

[TehMerc]

Maria Caliban wrote...
In the beginning, the community frequently beat goals easily and by overwhelming numbers. As time has gone by, the number of people playing has decreased and we've been losing more and more.

Really needs to be new, actual content. New classes and objectives spice it up a bit but I'd rather have another game mode or enemy type by now. The grind also puts people off.(though I don't think that'll be changed anytime soon and personally don't have an issue with it)

It'd also be nice if the underperforming classes and weapons were made better as the others get reigned in with nerfs. Not finding any reason to grab a Novaguard with the Slayer here as I'm running around in randoms unless I see a Cerbguard there too.

[AldarionnEB]

I definitely agree. A friend of mine started out as a new player recently and it's been a difficult road for him to unlock items and classes, and while he has a leg up because he is playing with me any my other friends who are capable of carrying him through Gold, he has a very limited class base that he can play with reasonably because many of the weapons he unlocks just cannot compete. He's stuck using a Phoenix Adept and smashing everything to death with little to no imagination while he waits for his weapons to rank up and classes to unlock so he can get a reasonable combination capable of contributing to our group.

It's true that there are players good enough to work around this challenge. My regular group of players could probably do it, but only because we have been playing since launch. This guy is new to the game entirely. Frankly I think if BioWare wants to get rid of farming, they need to re-focus their efforts on things like fixing the bugs that cause Geth Hunters to fire even when stunlocked, frozen, stasised or otherwise incapacitated. Bugs that make Banshees grab players through walls and from 30 feet away, bugs that make Rocket Troopers fire 2-3 times every shot, and re-balance characters like Krogan and Turians so they function more like the Destroyer, unable to be stun-locked to death. A more varied playing field would make for a FAR better experience and much fewer farming runs.

I understand that there are limitations to fixing bugs, and that it takes a long time and a lot of effort to accomplish, but it would at least be nice to have some acknowledgement that there is a problem, and that they are working on A, B and C bugs while X, Y and Z are lower priority.

[JaimeBaby]

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

I like this Krogan, He Understands!

No, he doesn't. In fact, everything he says couldn't be further from the truth. I win about 80% of my PUGs (no Geth, Fire Base White) - not because I'm so good, in fact, I'm in the middle of the scoreboard most of the time, but because my squadmates work together as a team, are competent and help each other. Sure, mistakes get made from time to time, and the players don't harmonize perfectly, how could they in a PUG, but the competence of the average player is easily good enough for Gold. 

Admittedly, I'm playing on a PC, and maybe things are different on consoles, but then... why would they be?

And secondly, there is no excuse whatsoever for grinding in a video game. None. Doesn't matter how sad and empty your life is, and how shallow and boring a person you are, there are like a billion better things you could do with your time.

[nukembaby]

Optimistman wrote...

 Some people just need to be insulted and I don't mind being banned. I've been banned for like 8 days altogether just for getting bored and saying stupid crap.

Well I think this says it all. I can't believe I wasted my time on this guy.

[Father_Jerusalem]

nukembaby wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

 Some people just need to be insulted and I don't mind being banned. I've been banned for like 8 days altogether just for getting bored and saying stupid crap.

Well I think this says it all. I can't believe I wasted my time on this guy.

You're the guy who posted a thread telling people who've cheated to buy packs with real money so they won't get banned, right?

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah.

Talk about "saying it all".

[nukembaby]

ThirdChild ZKI wrote...

For those who made the claim that those can't hack Gold don't belong on Gold, tell me why is it I could beat Gold before with a Mantis X/Mattock X loadout, using the pre-buff Quarian Engineer with a decent degree of both difficulty and ease (depending on my team), yet now fight uphill all the way with the new QE, using a Saber/Paladin and Valiant/Widow/BW?

Things have changed, and not in a very practical manner.

I didn't mean to imply you wouldn't notice it being harder; I meant that you should be able to adapt. In fact, it may cause you to have to change your character build, weapons, etc. in order to do so. A large part of what makes a good player good is that ability to find new ways to play that compensate for whatever nerfs are introduced. 

[its THAT guy]

I honestly just wish they would bring back headshots on bosses back into the game. It's really the only major nerf that I feel BW should roll back since it hurt the effectiveness of so many weapon based builds (especially the sniper based classes).

[nukembaby]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

You're the guy who posted a thread telling people who've cheated to buy packs with real money so they won't get banned, right?

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah.

Talk about "saying it all".

I don't insult other people like OptimistMan does, nor have I ever been banned (from this forum or the game). None of my threads were ever locked, and Abrams himself replied to one of them with useful information regarding a query of mine.

And you're defending him?

[Reddemon159]

Bump for truthfulness +1

[bclagge]

Optimistman wrote...
People are also entitled to their idiotic opinions. 

I couldn't care less whether bioware read this or took it into consideration or not. It's not for them, i'm stating an opinion. And of course like any child, you didn't read the flame the other child posted before making your post now did you? Oh, I forgot, these are idiots that I am dealing with. I honestly don't even know why i still respond to your types, i could literally ignore you and let your post die like any trash should. I guess i like debating?

Interesting, because the only debate tool you seem to have at your disposal is the ad hominem.  Any ability to convert people to your thinking is lost in the vitriol.

[Father_Jerusalem]

nukembaby wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

You're the guy who posted a thread telling people who've cheated to buy packs with real money so they won't get banned, right?

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah.

Talk about "saying it all".

I don't insult other people like OptimistMan does, nor have I ever been banned (from this forum or the game). None of my threads were ever locked, and Abrams himself replied to one of them with useful information regarding a query of mine.

And you're defending him?

You're cheaters thread was locked. That is factually a lie.

So yes, I'll defend him over a proven liar.

[Optimistman]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

nukembaby wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

You're the guy who posted a thread telling people who've cheated to buy packs with real money so they won't get banned, right?

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah.

Talk about "saying it all".

I don't insult other people like OptimistMan does, nor have I ever been banned (from this forum or the game). None of my threads were ever locked, and Abrams himself replied to one of them with useful information regarding a query of mine.

And you're defending him?

You're cheaters thread was locked. That is factually a lie.

So yes, I'll defend him over a proven liar.

Dude please lets no longer derail this thread for the few people that want to disagree with me or my post. I'll just ignore it from now on but please don't respond as well, it's giving them more attention than they deserve. Ignore it, act like they don't exist. please.

[DullahansXMark]

JaimeBaby wrote...

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

I like this Krogan, He Understands!

No, he doesn't. In fact, everything he says couldn't be further from the truth. I win about 80% of my PUGs (no Geth, Fire Base White) - not because I'm so good, in fact, I'm in the middle of the scoreboard most of the time, but because my squadmates work together as a team, are competent and help each other. Sure, mistakes get made from time to time, and the players don't harmonize perfectly, how could they in a PUG, but the competence of the average player is easily good enough for Gold. 

Admittedly, I'm playing on a PC, and maybe things are different on consoles, but then... why would they be?

And secondly, there is no excuse whatsoever for grinding in a video game. None. Doesn't matter how sad and empty your life is, and how shallow and boring a person you are, there are like a billion better things you could do with your time.

Wow. Hey guys, I found an elitist.

[Optimistman]

DullahansXMark wrote...

JaimeBaby wrote...

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

I like this Krogan, He Understands!

No, he doesn't. In fact, everything he says couldn't be further from the truth. I win about 80% of my PUGs (no Geth, Fire Base White) - not because I'm so good, in fact, I'm in the middle of the scoreboard most of the time, but because my squadmates work together as a team, are competent and help each other. Sure, mistakes get made from time to time, and the players don't harmonize perfectly, how could they in a PUG, but the competence of the average player is easily good enough for Gold. 

Admittedly, I'm playing on a PC, and maybe things are different on consoles, but then... why would they be?

And secondly, there is no excuse whatsoever for grinding in a video game. None. Doesn't matter how sad and empty your life is, and how shallow and boring a person you are, there are like a billion better things you could do with your time.

Wow. Hey guys, I found an elitist.

once again, please ignore them. They have no idea what they are talking about. Don't feed them attention.

[DullahansXMark]

Optimistman wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

JaimeBaby wrote...

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

I like this Krogan, He Understands!

No, he doesn't. In fact, everything he says couldn't be further from the truth. I win about 80% of my PUGs (no Geth, Fire Base White) - not because I'm so good, in fact, I'm in the middle of the scoreboard most of the time, but because my squadmates work together as a team, are competent and help each other. Sure, mistakes get made from time to time, and the players don't harmonize perfectly, how could they in a PUG, but the competence of the average player is easily good enough for Gold. 

Admittedly, I'm playing on a PC, and maybe things are different on consoles, but then... why would they be?

And secondly, there is no excuse whatsoever for grinding in a video game. None. Doesn't matter how sad and empty your life is, and how shallow and boring a person you are, there are like a billion better things you could do with your time.

Wow. Hey guys, I found an elitist.

once again, please ignore them. They have no idea what they are talking about. Don't feed them attention.

Yeah, I typed that before I saw your directive. Sorry, bro.

[Killahead]

This thread is amusing. Revolt against the elitists! Seriously, contributing to a segmentation of the community this way is rather plebeian.

[Serge_THE_GREAT]

The original post in this thread sounds like one of Gavorn's tricks!

Wait, what?

It isn't?

YEAAAAAAAARGH!

Good. Thank you human!

Modifié par Serge_THE_GREAT, 27 juillet 2012 - 11:11 .

[Lord Chun]

Bump

[notadisplayname]

DullahansXMark wrote...

JaimeBaby wrote...

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

I like this Krogan, He Understands!

No, he doesn't. In fact, everything he says couldn't be further from the truth. I win about 80% of my PUGs (no Geth, Fire Base White) - not because I'm so good, in fact, I'm in the middle of the scoreboard most of the time, but because my squadmates work together as a team, are competent and help each other. Sure, mistakes get made from time to time, and the players don't harmonize perfectly, how could they in a PUG, but the competence of the average player is easily good enough for Gold. 

Admittedly, I'm playing on a PC, and maybe things are different on consoles, but then... why would they be?

And secondly, there is no excuse whatsoever for grinding in a video game. None. Doesn't matter how sad and empty your life is, and how shallow and boring a person you are, there are like a billion better things you could do with your time.

Wow. Hey guys, I found an elitist.

His reply doesn't seem to have an eltist tone at all to me. In fact, it's a pretty sensible comment.  The only thing that looks like bragging is "I win 80% of my PUGs", but he attributes his success to the skill and competence of his teammates, not simply his own abilities. In fact, he even outright says that he isn't a superstar and that the average player can complete Gold if they stick together and work as a team, which, in my experience, has been true. It seems like he's simply being labelled as an "elitist" and having his opinion discarded simply because he's adopting a different stance than the OP when the majority of commenters have been agreeing with the OP.

[Talhydras]

LeandroBraz wrote...

LGear wrote...

Optimistman wrote...
 Honestly I think the drastic nerfing of weapons

I would agree with the rest of your post, save for one gripe. For weapons, only the Falcon and the Krysae have been majorly nerfed in the past few months, with all other weapons getting buffs (including the entire AR and SMG line). Sure the buffs aren't overly drastic compared to the high-profile nerfs, but they're still buffs nonetheless, with many having benefited (ex. the Arc Pistol, that so many derided as useless, now has able users in Gold from my experience). Also, many abilities and powers have been buffed since then, including Tech Armor, Grenades, etc.

I still do not seriously get how people still think that all we're getting in ME3 MP are buffs. It's become a pet peeve of mine at this point. 

Otherwise though, I actually quite agree with the rest of your points. 

and it was not so bad. I used the Falcon after the nerf only, she is amazing and work just fine. I tried the Krysae yesterday, still very effective. It do what she supposed to do: Good at range and can save you easily at close range. What happened is that who use it all the time, felt the impact of the nerf. I wasn't using it for a while, so I couldn't feel the difference, just that she still a good weapon, not useless like most players try to show here.

 Anyway, I agree that it's more hard now to do public games, but there's something we need to look at. Most of the good players are now playing platinum most of the time, so we have less chance of getting a good team on gold public matches. 

Quoting to echo support for post "nerf" falcon. Primary weapon on my Destroyer with backup Talon or Piranha for the up-close work. Sure, it takes like ten shots to kill a phantom with it, but it also takes ten shots to kill three phantoms at the same time while staggering all of them. Seriously, the Falcon is an absolutely fantastic weapon esp. against cerberus.

I've done a few FBWGG matches and I find cerberus significantly easier and more enjoyable at the moment. If you're getting sick of FBWGG showing up, or you find FBWGG too annoying with stomps and so forth... do cerberus/gold and bring a Falcon to insta-counter the phantoms and it's honestly only incrementally tougher than silver. I'm not saying that to be insulting - I actually like that about it at the moment because I find Reapers and Geth a bit too stressful to be the kind of good clean fun I like. 

If you feel compelled to crank out the creds - if that's why you're playing the game, then definitely give Unknown Cerberus Gold a try. I think it's less repetitive, more fun, and just as rewarding. The more people do that, the more diverse the gold-level lobbies become... and then mission accomplished, right?

[nukembaby]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

You're cheaters thread was locked. That is factually a lie.

So yes, I'll defend him over a proven liar.

Give me the link. When my threads move beyond page 2 I stop monitoring them. It may have been locked after I was long gone but it certainly wasn't locked while I was actively posting to it.

I have to chuckle a little over the fact that OptimistMan himself just told you to stop being a tool/mouthpiecefor him. You can't even get support from the guy you're defending.

Edit: Oh and by the way, my earlier threads about missile glitching were my way of agitating the waters a little so that BW would be motivated to fix the glitch. By the timing of it, it apparently it worked. You're welcome.

Modifié par nukembaby, 27 juillet 2012 - 11:24 .

[DullahansXMark]

notadisplayname wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

JaimeBaby wrote...

TheAdventurer29 wrote...

I like this Krogan, He Understands!

No, he doesn't. In fact, everything he says couldn't be further from the truth. I win about 80% of my PUGs (no Geth, Fire Base White) - not because I'm so good, in fact, I'm in the middle of the scoreboard most of the time, but because my squadmates work together as a team, are competent and help each other. Sure, mistakes get made from time to time, and the players don't harmonize perfectly, how could they in a PUG, but the competence of the average player is easily good enough for Gold. 

Admittedly, I'm playing on a PC, and maybe things are different on consoles, but then... why would they be?

And secondly, there is no excuse whatsoever for grinding in a video game. None. Doesn't matter how sad and empty your life is, and how shallow and boring a person you are, there are like a billion better things you could do with your time.

Wow. Hey guys, I found an elitist.

His reply doesn't seem to have an eltist tone at all to me. In fact, it's a pretty sensible comment.  The only thing that looks like bragging is "I win 80% of my PUGs", but he attributes his success to the skill and competence of his teammates, not simply his own abilities. In fact, he even outright says that he isn't a superstar and that the average player can complete Gold if they stick together and work as a team, which, in my experience, has been true. It seems like he's simply being labelled as an "elitist" and having his opinion discarded simply because he's adopting a different stance than the OP when the majority of commenters have been agreeing with the OP.

He perceives his opinion as fact. Elitist.