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[Imp of the Perverse]

I was demolishing with a GI and a piranha, then tried a hurricane and did pretty much as well (slightly weaker against bosses but stronger against everything else.) Then I played a game alongside a destroyer with a level x harrier and it was absurd.

Modifié par Imp of the Perverse, 27 juillet 2012 - 10:06 .

[spudspot]

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

I was demolishing with a GI and a piranha, then tried a hurricane and did pretty much as well (slightly weaker against bosses but stronger against everything else.) Then I played a game with a destroyer with a level x harrier and it was absurd.

For like three mags. Ah, you gotta love the Harrier's ammo reserve. 

[ChatmanJay]

GI with an N7 Eagle would be OP.

[LadyAlekto]

Actually, if you got that score you team must had been bad

I barely get that with my gi loadouts and i play with people that solo if need be

[AdrunkGirlScout]

yarpenthemad21 wrote...

AdrunkGirlScout wrote...



Never seen Brutes die that fast even on Bronze.  This is just amazing and the sad thing is, it will most likely get nerfed even though all the gear was earned and he just put the pieces together.  That build is nothing short of God mode and I believed he earned it.

Thoughts? 

Also, I apologize if this has been posted/mentioned already.  Curious for some discussion.

you had ammo powers, rail amp and other staff. and still you want your gun to suck? claymore kills even without piercing ammo, piranha without it (or shreeder, so no barrel) it's just watter gun on armor.

claymore GI with pm can 1 shot brute on gold. so yes it's faster than piranha. Also reapers are very easy faction for piranha. big melee units, hard to miss.

I wasn't the one playing and when I asked, 'How long before *this* gets nerfed?', I was referring to the build as a whole. 

[ABjerre]

spudspot wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

I was demolishing with a GI and a piranha, then tried a hurricane and did pretty much as well (slightly weaker against bosses but stronger against everything else.) Then I played a game with a destroyer with a level x harrier and it was absurd.

For like three mags. Ah, you gotta love the Harrier's ammo reserve. 

DESTROY EVERYTHI... Hold on, out of ammo.

DESTROY EV... brb, getting moar ammo.

DESTRO... WHERE THE **** IS MY DEMOLISHER WITH HIS PYLON?!?

[yarpenthemad21]

SalvationThroughDestruction wrote...

yarpenthemad21 wrote...

it's just watter gun on armor.

Pfft.... Hahahahahahaha.


Ahahahahahaha

You serious?
It's something like 700 dps on armor, that's still more than anything that isn't a claymore.

yes I am, 365 damage vs armor is water gun damage.

brute have 5k armor and armor plates which will negate most of damage. 
without shreder or piercing ammo this gun is just useless on gold. effective range is the same as reagar. dps is high, but most of pellets are just wasted. 

and about GI with it.
destroyers is better with this gun, higher clip, higher rof, high damage and acc.

[Hulk Hsieh]

Just make accuracy bonus from power not working on shotguns and both the gun and the class won't be nerfed.

[Holy-Hamster]

ABjerre wrote...

spudspot wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

I was demolishing with a GI and a piranha, then tried a hurricane and did pretty much as well (slightly weaker against bosses but stronger against everything else.) Then I played a game with a destroyer with a level x harrier and it was absurd.

For like three mags. Ah, you gotta love the Harrier's ammo reserve. 

DESTROY EVERYTHI... Hold on, out of ammo.

DESTROY EV... brb, getting moar ammo.

DESTRO... WHERE THE **** IS MY DEMOLISHER WITH HIS PYLON?!?

Choose Rio.  Hog all the ammo boxes.  

Seriously Rio was made for the harrier destroyer and it's hilarious fun.  

[N7-RedFox]

The piranha is a sack of s*** when firing at a target even from mid range. U have to be right up close before it becomes lethal. That is perfectly balanced to me.

[Kalas Magnus]

GI is a god on his own.

[Hulk Hsieh]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

The piranha is a sack of s*** when firing at a target even from mid range. U have to be right up close before it becomes lethal. That is perfectly balanced to me.

The only exception is when you have extra accuracy bonus from power.
So killing the extra accuracy is the solution.

[N7-RedFox]

ABjerre wrote...

spudspot wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

I was demolishing with a GI and a piranha, then tried a hurricane and did pretty much as well (slightly weaker against bosses but stronger against everything else.) Then I played a game with a destroyer with a level x harrier and it was absurd.

For like three mags. Ah, you gotta love the Harrier's ammo reserve. 

DESTROY EVERYTHI... Hold on, out of ammo.

DESTROY EV... brb, getting moar ammo.

DESTRO... WHERE THE **** IS MY DEMOLISHER WITH HIS PYLON?!?
I lol'd

[Imp of the Perverse]

Holy-Hamster wrote...

ABjerre wrote...

spudspot wrote...

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

I was demolishing with a GI and a piranha, then tried a hurricane and did pretty much as well (slightly weaker against bosses but stronger against everything else.) Then I played a game with a destroyer with a level x harrier and it was absurd.

For like three mags. Ah, you gotta love the Harrier's ammo reserve. 

DESTROY EVERYTHI... Hold on, out of ammo.

DESTROY EV... brb, getting moar ammo.

DESTRO... WHERE THE **** IS MY DEMOLISHER WITH HIS PYLON?!?

Choose Rio.  Hog all the ammo boxes.  

Seriously Rio was made for the harrier destroyer and it's hilarious fun.  

lol, yeah. I can't stand the harrier personally for that reason (team hack? hold on, I'll be back in a second...) There was a demolisher there to help restock though.

[Kalas Magnus]

yarpenthemad21 wrote...

SalvationThroughDestruction wrote...

yarpenthemad21 wrote...

it's just watter gun on armor.

Pfft.... Hahahahahahaha.


Ahahahahahaha

You serious?
It's something like 700 dps on armor, that's still more than anything that isn't a claymore.

yes I am, 365 damage vs armor is water gun damage.

brute have 5k armor and armor plates which will negate most of damage. 
without shreder or piercing ammo this gun is just useless on gold. effective range is the same as reagar. dps is high, but most of pellets are just wasted. 

and about GI with it.
destroyers is better with this gun, higher clip, higher rof, high damage and acc.

No, they're not. GI is the best with every weapon.
Bonus:25% accuracy,+15% RoF, 17.5 damage,80% damage from cloak and PM (x1.2) damage. 

[snfonseka]

The problem is with the GI not with the Piranha. GI has very high weapon bonuses. So if you want to nerf something, nerf GI.

Modifié par snfonseka, 27 juillet 2012 - 10:26 .

[LadyAlekto]

Actually a destroyer is better with every gun, the gi only has 2 powers that synergize perfect with huntermode

Stop bashing the gi, ask why so few other classes have such a perfect synergie

*edit*
Also gi is fine as it is, only very few are able to take its strength to perfection, and most of all gi's i see are barely capable of doing any great feat

Piranha is fine as it is

That guy took 33 minutes carrying 3 n00bs and barely caring for objectives

If all, nerf the revenant, i shave a good 5-10 minutes of every platinum match where i bring it...

effin scrubs

Modifié par ShadedPhoenix, 27 juillet 2012 - 10:30 .

[Rifneno]

AdrunkGirlScout wrote...



Never seen Brutes die that fast even on Bronze.  This is just amazing and the sad thing is, it will most likely get nerfed even though all the gear was earned and he just put the pieces together.  That build is nothing short of God mode and I believed he earned it.

Thoughts? 

Also, I apologize if this has been posted/mentioned already.  Curious for some discussion.

It'll get nerfed because of people like you.  Thanks for helping ruin the game.

[ABjerre]

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

CaptainTeabag wrote...

The piranha is a sack of s*** when firing at a target even from mid range. U have to be right up close before it becomes lethal. That is perfectly balanced to me.

The only exception is when you have extra accuracy bonus from power.
So killing the extra accuracy is the solution.

Well the cover accuracy bonus is situational, as it requires... well, cover. I dont see a need to remove that.
edit: And classes that have accuracy bonuses pay the price for them in the form of survivability (GI), utility (Turian Soldier) and agility (Destroyer).

Nor is there a need to fix the GI as it is a glass cannon, and only useable in this way with a team practicly tanking for it.

Altering the Piranha shotgun wouldn't make sense either. It has huge damage, but it requires a lot of stars to align before it kicks in: Most noteably you need to be up close and not getting killed for doing so.

And most classes able to do that are either tankky classes who dont dish out a lot of damage, or high damage classes playing a very risky game.

If the reward for playing this risky game is not high (read: damage) then people wouldn't do it, as it makes them more of a liability than an asset to the team.

Speaking of liability, i would never play with someone sporting a build like the one in this game, unless it was a team of people i know, and we agreed to watch his ass at all times. The risk of having to revive him every 6sec (4.5sec for cloak to run out, 1.5sec for mobs to kill him) is simply too high for it to work anywhere outside a fixed team.

Modifié par ABjerre, 27 juillet 2012 - 10:39 .

[Conduit0]

AdrunkGirlScout wrote...



Never seen Brutes die that fast even on Bronze.  This is just amazing and the sad thing is, it will most likely get nerfed even though all the gear was earned and he just put the pieces together.  That build is nothing short of God mode and I believed he earned it.

Thoughts? 

Also, I apologize if this has been posted/mentioned already.  Curious for some discussion.

That guys score is a total farce. I didn't watch the whole thing, but I watched enough to notice that he never bothers to revive teammates, and never helps with objectives. He simply runs around the map kill whoring while each objective wave is stretched out to its limit. Either he had a terrible team who couldn't even manage to complete objectives with him constantly clearing the map, or the entire video was staged to make the Piranha look more powerful than it really is.

I love the (il)logic of the people wanting the Piranha nerfed, one class does exceptionally well with a gun that everyone else does average with, so it must be nerfed into oblivion.

[Hulk Hsieh]

ABjerre wrote...

Well the cover accuracy bonus is situational, as it requires... well, cover. I dont see a need to remove that.

GI/TS/Destroyer have accuracy bonus that doesn't depend on cover.

[Imp of the Perverse]

snfonseka wrote...

The problem is with the GI not with the Piranha. GI has very high weapon bonuses. So if you want to nerf something, nerf GI.

The GI also dies if a swarmer sneezes on it...

[Rifneno]

Conduit0 wrote...

I love the (il)logic of the people wanting the Piranha nerfed, one class does exceptionally well with a gun that everyone else does average with, so it must be nerfed into oblivion.

What I love most is how they call is god mode.  Every game that's ever had a god mode, you're invincible in god mode.  GI pops like a water balloon if you give it a stern look.

Goddamn call of duty kiddies still don't understand this is an RPG hybrid and we have a role affectionately known as "glass cannon" for its incredible offensive and pathetic defense.

[ABjerre]

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

ABjerre wrote...

Well the cover accuracy bonus is situational, as it requires... well, cover. I dont see a need to remove that.

GI/TS/Destroyer have accuracy bonus that doesn't depend on cover.

Thos bonuses come at a cost: Survivability (GI), Utility (TS) and Agility (Destr).

Still perfectly fine if you ask me.

[darkrogueninja]

My vorcha says hi. Its flamer can melt a brute's armor like tissue paper. Im going to use my vorcha with a piranha just to ****** people like you off. O, and can someone post that photo for operation nerfwatch? We will put this nerfer in his place.