Rifneno wrote...
What I love most is how they call is god mode. Every game that's ever had a god mode, you're invincible in god mode. GI pops like a water balloon if you give it a stern look.
Modifié par ABjerre, 27 juillet 2012 - 10:36 .
ABjerre wrote...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
ABjerre wrote...
Well the cover accuracy bonus is situational, as it requires... well, cover. I dont see a need to remove that.
GI/TS/Destroyer have accuracy bonus that doesn't depend on cover.
Thos bonuses come at a cost: Survivability (GI), Utility (TS) and Agility (Destr).
Still perfectly fine if you ask me.
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
It doesn't make sense anyway. How can the skill of a marksman affect how pellets fly?
That is a lie. You are not putting anything in fitness. That is not his fault. TC+HM give you the ability to move effortlessly around the map. You can avoid anything even the nasty little swarmers.Imp of the Perverse wrote...
snfonseka wrote...
The problem is with the GI not with the Piranha. GI has very high weapon bonuses. So if you want to nerf something, nerf GI.
The GI also dies if a swarmer sneezes on it...
Exactly. Yes the GI has Tactical Cloak, but that hardly makes you immune to enemy fire, as all the geth rockets that I've managed to block with my face while cloaked can attest to.Rifneno wrote...
Conduit0 wrote...
I love the (il)logic of the people wanting the Piranha nerfed, one class does exceptionally well with a gun that everyone else does average with, so it must be nerfed into oblivion.
What I love most is how they call is god mode. Every game that's ever had a god mode, you're invincible in god mode. GI pops like a water balloon if you give it a stern look.
Goddamn call of duty kiddies still don't understand this is an RPG hybrid and we have a role affectionately known as "glass cannon" for its incredible offensive and pathetic defense.
Rifneno wrote...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
It doesn't make sense anyway. How can the skill of a marksman affect how pellets fly?
How come that Oculus cuts the Normandy's hull like butter, but Shepard can withstand a few seconds of sustained fire from it?
You aren't doing it right if your geth doesn't have health bonuses. Although putting 6 ranks into shield is redundant, because it only give you less than 100 extra shield when HM is running. And geth get an extra 10% passive shield recharge speed on top of the 15% other classes get. My geth is not squishyKalas321 wrote...
That is a lie. You are not putting anything in fitness. That is not his fault. TC+HM give you the ability to move effortlessly around the map. You can avoid anything even the nasty little swarmers.Imp of the Perverse wrote...
snfonseka wrote...
The problem is with the GI not with the Piranha. GI has very high weapon bonuses. So if you want to nerf something, nerf GI.
The GI also dies if a swarmer sneezes on it...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
It doesn't make sense anyway. How can the skill of a marksman affect how pellets fly?
How come that Oculus cuts the Normandy's hull like butter, but Shepard can withstand a few seconds of sustained fire from it?
Well... the make sense part is only used to help the gameplay propose.
Smart Choke + extra accuracy is making shotguns working like sniper rifles. (Applies to Talon, too.)
Maybe it is time to think if this should be cut down so shotguns work as shotguns.
He has one one of the highest survivabilities in the game. He staggers everything and quickly picks off everything. He can see everything on the field before he is in any danger.ShadedPhoenix wrote...
YOu can avoid all you want, one error and youre dead meat (synthetic materials and hydraulic oil)
The gi is perfectly fine, even i agree on the hm nerf, and i use both geth with great jo
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
Well... the make sense part is only used to help the gameplay propose.
Smart Choke + extra accuracy is making shotguns working like sniper rifles. (Applies to Talon, too.)
Maybe it is time to think if this should be cut down so shotguns work as shotguns.
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
It is fine with all other weapons. But when working with a shotgun the chemistry is just too strong that shotguns become sniper rifles.
Modifié par ABjerre, 27 juillet 2012 - 10:53 .
ABjerre wrote...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
It is fine with all other weapons. But when working with a shotgun the chemistry is just too strong that shotguns become sniper rifles.
I have a feeling that you dont really understand the whole "cost / benefit" thing... And they do not become sniper rifles or any other rifle for that matter, not even close. The accuracy is increased by a percentage, so in this case, you increase the actual range of which you get all 8 pellets to hit by a very small margin.
The shotguns that really benefit from the increased accuracy in terms of effective range are the semi accurate ones. They, on the other hand, dont do a lot of damage... because that is the price of the benefit of their greater accuracy.
Rifneno wrote...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
Well... the make sense part is only used to help the gameplay propose.
Smart Choke + extra accuracy is making shotguns working like sniper rifles. (Applies to Talon, too.)
Maybe it is time to think if this should be cut down so shotguns work as shotguns.
Wow. Now you nerfers want them to nerf the vanilla weapon mods? Good God. And you wonder why people hate you guys.
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Holy-Hamster wrote...
ABjerre wrote...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
It is fine with all other weapons. But when working with a shotgun the chemistry is just too strong that shotguns become sniper rifles.
I have a feeling that you dont really understand the whole "cost / benefit" thing... And they do not become sniper rifles or any other rifle for that matter, not even close. The accuracy is increased by a percentage, so in this case, you increase the actual range of which you get all 8 pellets to hit by a very small margin.
The shotguns that really benefit from the increased accuracy in terms of effective range are the semi accurate ones. They, on the other hand, dont do a lot of damage... because that is the price of the benefit of their greater accuracy.
Claymore would like a word with you
darkrogueninja wrote...
You aren't doing it right if your geth doesn't have health bonuses. Although putting 6 ranks into shield is redundant, because it only give you less than 100 extra shield when HM is running. And geth get an extra 10% passive shield recharge speed on top of the 15% other classes get. My geth is not squishyKalas321 wrote...
That is a lie. You are not putting anything in fitness. That is not his fault. TC+HM give you the ability to move effortlessly around the map. You can avoid anything even the nasty little swarmers.Imp of the Perverse wrote...
snfonseka wrote...
The problem is with the GI not with the Piranha. GI has very high weapon bonuses. So if you want to nerf something, nerf GI.
The GI also dies if a swarmer sneezes on it...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
It doesn't make sense anyway. How can the skill of a marksman affect how pellets fly?
How come that Oculus cuts the Normandy's hull like butter, but Shepard can withstand a few seconds of sustained fire from it?
Well... the make sense part is only used to help the gameplay propose.
Smart Choke + extra accuracy is making shotguns working like sniper rifles. (Applies to Talon, too.)
Maybe it is time to think if this should be cut down so shotguns work as shotguns.
Holy-Hamster wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
Well... the make sense part is only used to help the gameplay propose.
Smart Choke + extra accuracy is making shotguns working like sniper rifles. (Applies to Talon, too.)
Maybe it is time to think if this should be cut down so shotguns work as shotguns.
Wow. Now you nerfers want them to nerf the vanilla weapon mods? Good God. And you wonder why people hate you guys.
And you people who freak out over changes that would be better for balancing out the game are funny too
Holy-Hamster wrote...
And you people who freak out over changes that would be better for balancing out the game are funny too
yarpenthemad21 wrote...
better?
make shotguns useless on every class other than destroyer gi and ts. yes it's great balancing idea. great.
ABjerre wrote...
Holy-Hamster wrote...
ABjerre wrote...
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
It is fine with all other weapons. But when working with a shotgun the chemistry is just too strong that shotguns become sniper rifles.
I have a feeling that you dont really understand the whole "cost / benefit" thing... And they do not become sniper rifles or any other rifle for that matter, not even close. The accuracy is increased by a percentage, so in this case, you increase the actual range of which you get all 8 pellets to hit by a very small margin.
The shotguns that really benefit from the increased accuracy in terms of effective range are the semi accurate ones. They, on the other hand, dont do a lot of damage... because that is the price of the benefit of their greater accuracy.
Claymore would like a word with you
Claymore has 1 shot in the chamber, low spare ammo and it weighs a ton. That is the price it pays for its perks.
Woah, hold it there. I never said he wasnt. He is the definition of a glass cannon. He has absurd damage output but he is the one that will down if someone looks at him funny. He should have brought something other than a trenchcoat.ShadedPhoenix wrote...
@kalas, the drell adept also is a goddamn moab that nukes entire rooms on a whim
Rifneno wrote...
yarpenthemad21 wrote...
better?
make shotguns useless on every class other than destroyer gi and ts. yes it's great balancing idea. great.
To these nerfer filth, yes.
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