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[haisho]

The gigantic score here means absolutely nothing, since he's drawing out objective waves to inflate it.

Under no normal circumstances are you going to see scores like that in normal gameplay where everyone completes objectives as quickly as possible.

Even then, he's a Geth Infiltrator. What's new about a GI topping the scoreboard? <_<

[darkrogueninja]

TattyUD wrote...

Mandalore313 wrote...

Well you can't easily pull it off, if they do 10 minute runs up to w10 objective that means that they're on par with our speedrun time, which means they know what they are doing.


You need to understand that the people that can do this constantly, without failing are very few and it's not just to make changes that affect everyone because of a handful of people looking to get the most optimal performance out of their class/loadout.

 

This.  There are very few people that can achieve 10 minute runs, and not many more that can even get close.  I've done a lot of glacier speedruns on platinum with some really good players over the last week and only a handful of them with were able to get anyway near this sort of time even with their piranha GIs.

In the public games that I've played I've seen very few piranha GIs and they haven't performed especially well.  I've certainly not seen anything like what was happening after the previous DLC when it seemed like everyone and their mother was wielding the Krysae and rampaging to quick easy mode victories and sucking all the fun out of playing, whilst posting massive scores.

 There's no rule that says new dlc guns can't be better than old ones. Most of the times they're better because their goal is to renew our interest in the game.
If you get new stuff that you don't use then it's all for nothing.

I don't think they'll nerf the gun nor do they need.
I've been doing gold pugs a lot lately and I haven't seen a single piranha GI yet, although i've seen a lot krysae and reegar GIs.

Its not secret to anyone I play with that I love the claymore more than any other gun, this is partially at least because no other weapon could come close to it for me.  Now I feel I have a real choice with the Piranha and its certainly freshened up a lot of builds for me.  I want more choices and variety, not less.

Variety is the spice of life. This is what some forum goers call "the grey" they want every weapon to be the same, so they can drag you down to your level. When you realize the previous statement to be true, you realize that its pointless to give them attention, best response is to ignore them or laugh at them

[Killahead]

darkrogueninja wrote...

Variety is the spice of life. This is what some forum goers call "the grey" they want every weapon to be the same, so they can drag you down to your level. When you realize the previous statement to be true, you realize that its pointless to give them attention, best response is to ignore them or laugh at them

Simply untrue for most players advocating for balance on this forum. Please join a serious discussion on balance and post your arguments rather than throw out baseless assumptions that only serve to split the community further. Thanks.

[Pyro666999]

It kind of sadenss me to say this, but yesterday I took this build on Plat, with maxed gear for shotgun dmg, armor piercing 4 and defense lv 4,... And it's the same, it's absolutely no contest, no other classcan come even close.

Also Geth Engeneer, works terrific with practically the same build.
Only up side is you can make an all defensive turret, and preatty much stand in the open, circle your turret and just kill everything as it advances towards you.

There is now simple way to really nerf this build as it is a combination of powers, wepons and gear, nerfing just one of those will make it less effective, but still OP.

[darkrogueninja]

Killahead wrote...

darkrogueninja wrote...

Variety is the spice of life. This is what some forum goers call "the grey" they want every weapon to be the same, so they can drag you down to your level. When you realize the previous statement to be true, you realize that its pointless to give them attention, best response is to ignore them or laugh at them

Simply untrue for most players advocating for balance on this forum. Please join a serious discussion on balance and post your arguments rather than throw out baseless assumptions that only serve to split the community further. Thanks.

Sorry ill bring legitimacy and argue the facts! Im not an expert on the DPS in this game, but id assume there are quite a few guns that do more DPS than the piranha, not including if its put on a GI. Isn't every gun good on a HM speced GI or Turian? But i don't hear a lot of complaints about turians

[nomad311]

What a friggin' Jerk. Some nerfer just trying to do all he can do to get a gun reduced, when it all reality it'll probably get the class and the gun reduced. So hooray. Idiots.

[Biotic_Warlock]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

I'm becoming convinced that the GI is going to ruin every good weapon...

Indeed...
They need to lose Proxy mine for something less useful.

[Killahead]

darkrogueninja wrote...

Killahead wrote...

darkrogueninja wrote...

Variety is the spice of life. This is what some forum goers call "the grey" they want every weapon to be the same, so they can drag you down to your level. When you realize the previous statement to be true, you realize that its pointless to give them attention, best response is to ignore them or laugh at them

Simply untrue for most players advocating for balance on this forum. Please join a serious discussion on balance and post your arguments rather than throw out baseless assumptions that only serve to split the community further. Thanks.

Sorry ill bring legitimacy and argue the facts! Im not an expert on the DPS in this game, but id assume there are quite a few guns that do more DPS than the piranha, not including if its put on a GI. Isn't every gun good on a HM speced GI or Turian? But i don't hear a lot of complaints about turians

I do believe the Piranha has one of the, perhaps the highest DPS in the game right now. Wouldn't be a problem if certain classes didn't have accuracy bonuses allowing them to land all pellets on target. The Piranhas high DPS only shines in melee range on other classes, meaning it is more of a question of risk/ reward on these classes.

As for the Turian Soldier:

Compared to the Destroyer: Less shields (in fact, 800-1000 less shields, depending on build), a lot less damage bonuses.

Compared to the GI: No wallhack, a lot less damage bonuses, no cloak, no dodge.

The Turian is a very balanced character, but could use some more shields. Don't think anyone would dream of calling him overpowered even with 300+ more shields.

[Clayless]

Just played it, it's effective but very, very, boring.

[Awong_]

Listen to the commentary. He milked out objective waves. Most of the time there were only 3 players in the match as one kept disconnecting. Not only that, his teammates were low leveled which is probably why they did that bad.

It was basically a solo.

[cerberus1701]

ABjerre wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

I'm becoming convinced that the GI is going to ruin every good weapon...

Yeah, it is the only common factor in many recent nerfs. Conclusion: Fix the class, not the weapon.

It's way easier to just trooper stomp the gun.

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

WickedTruth 823 wrote...

Destroyer + Any Weapon = better then GI... sad but true... atleast my destroyer...

i find the Piranhas on the destroyer to be FAR more OP than on the infiltrators

EXTRA AMMO?
EXTRA ROF?
EXTRA ACCURACY?
iWIN MODE?

hell yeah

+ shotty amp, and shotty gear

[Apollo1450]

All this talk of the gi infiltrator being overpowered is killing me.

Yes, if you go full weapon damage on everything he turns any gun into a handheld death machine, but in that build you'll die if a marauder looks at you funny.

Geth infiltrator, and engineer for that matter, are top tier characters...what is the point in having a hierarchy of characters if the top ones get nerfed to hell because a small group of people own with them??

I know for a fact there are many people out there who can't play the geth characters to save their life...too squishy. The other day I watched two guys using gi's on silver not get above 40k because they couldn't stay up...took a krogan sentinel next and scored 80k.

Thats the tradeoff that is the geth characters: immense firepower with low health, and the people who can deal with that do very well. Yes, I'm obviously a fan of the geth characters and don't want to see them nerfed, AGAIN...they fit my play style and I can deal with squishy. people need to realize they sacrifice tremendous survivability to be that powerful.

[tCruzin4lyfe]

This is so stupid. Nothing needs to be done to the Geth or the Piranha. Who make these characters and guns if you want to nerf them all the time. I had this same setup last week, well before this vid was out and yes it's a nice build but I also had teammates that knew what they were doing. I also played as a teammate (revives, helping with objectives, etc). I was top score but it wasn't nowhere near Jumpin's in this video. What they video shows is low level guys playing (probably not that good), he even said they are some new guys from his clan so of course they were getting out scored. And as others mentioned, he pretty much run around doing what he wanted and not really helpin out, on top of that milking waves.
All this nerf talk does nothing but help kill the game. If Bioware nerfs anything due to this vid and people whining then that's foolish on their part as well.

[SilentCO1]

GI is OP, not the Piranha. And why would you post this? If they keep making the game harder, builds that are extremely effective are necessary.

[Alex_Dur4and]

Yes!! Nerf all the weapons!!!

Let the "Tac Cloak", "Hunter mode" and "Devastator mode" users ruin everything for the other classes!!!

[Creston918]

All together now: NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT NERF IT !!

[D.Shepard]

If you title a topic "How long before this is nerfed? etc" I suspect it may happen faster then you thought... you just give "nerfers" an idea

[CmnDwnWrkn]

If anything, nerf the GI.  I'm sick of every weapon nerf cry being based on the GI's absurd damage buff.

[BlackoutOmega]

xabkish wrote...

Although it's a combination of both that makes it God Mode there's one thing that's bothering me:

Freaking Gold Piranha has a better sustained DPS than Black Talon. And WAY better burst DPS. Power creep at its finest...

That's only when you're sitting right in front of enemies, the Talon is more reliable as it doesnt have a spread of like 3 meters...

[Descy_]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

If anything, nerf the GI.  I'm sick of every weapon nerf cry being based on the GI's absurd damage buff.

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[stingernuke]

Jumpin'...Hes the best player in the game but also the worst teammate in the game. The guy averages like 175k points a game. So this video is a bad judge.

[Vinace]

Don't nerf it! I become kinda useless when enemies are far away from my GI + Piranha. So I just spam my proximity mine and wait for them to come to us instead. It's also kind of risky for me to get close to the enemies just to kill them with my piranha since I'm squishy. :[