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How long before this is nerfed? GI + Piranha = 374,557 on Gold.


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#201
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Ppl need to stop complaining and just play the game! Shut up about needing anything! I never post on the forums or reply to them but I'm sick of all when whining on here. I could care less if I make the most points or least points in a game, but apparently its a big factor for a lot if ppl. Stop whining and screaming nerf and just play the damn game.... ok that's the end of my rant

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AdrunkGirlScout wrote...



Never seen Brutes die that fast even on Bronze.  This is just amazing and the sad thing is, it will most likely get nerfed even though all the gear was earned and he just put the pieces together.  That build is nothing short of God mode and I believed he earned it.

Thoughts? 

Also, I apologize if this has been posted/mentioned already.  Curious for some discussion.


Why would you even post this the way you did?  Do you want it nerfed?  Do you enjoy having nice things taken away and want to help push that to happen?  The video is great, it was already shared on Reddit.  

Seriously we can't even discuss the game anymore because every freakin thread is nerf this, nerf that.  The best part is when someone actually takes their freaking time to run studies to show how and why something needs nerfed or is not working they way they want it to.  Just play the game, enjoy it while people still play it.  This nerf stuff is crazy..

#203
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I firmly believe that when any player asks for a nerf their entire manifest should be wiped clean and unable to use and gun except level 1 uncommons - and unable to upgrade them past level 1. All gel/ops/clips/and missiles made defunt along with all gear bonuses and consumables unable to be equiped.

Since we are also wishful, any player also callign for said nerf is assigned an orange (heheh nerf color) dot that hovers above their head labeling them a nerfer... and the inability to revive said player should they go down (which they shouldn't because since they are calling for a nerf, they must be god's gift to mass effect).

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I use the piranha X with other classes and its not effective like that but its fun. Now if they nerf it just because some use the best possible build combination with it, it will become useless to other classes and take a lot of the fun out of this weapon. Leave the piranha alone.

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I don't think the Pirahna is OP. An OP weapon should be OP on every single class and not just on one class.

Do you know that the GI is extra squishy on anything above bronze? I get one shot at by everything from Nemesis to Ravagers on Platinum. He pretty much dies to everything.

Modifié par friedricethem0n, 27 juillet 2012 - 05:45 .


#206
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I'm serious. Do it with a Kroldier.

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do not touch the GI if you weaken it it will be unusable like a quarian female engineer. it deals crazy damage but it is so squishy. a warp effect from a banshee without cyclonic armor on platinum can drop it right away if you do not have full health. out of cloak marauders will drop it fast. one mistake your dead. i usually play private games, i tell my team mates right away that im going down and i stay close to the team killing bosses fast. removing GI's damage capabilities makes it useless in the game.

Modifié par bogsters23, 27 juillet 2012 - 06:17 .


#208
thenextportnoy

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If it could kill as fast (or even close) at medium range as it can at extreme close, then yeah. Maybe OP. But run it with any other class on gold or platinum and you'll see just how quickly your killing power drops with distance.

Piranha is not OP.

#209
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Kronner wrote...

Piranha is OP?

Full story at 11.

Wave 11?.. but  we're done at wave 11!Image IPB

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Shoelesscomsonaut wrote...

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

Just make accuracy bonus from power not working on shotguns and both the gun and the class won't be nerfed.


Pretty much this.

Pirahna
has one weakness which can easily be corrected. I'm fine with the crazy
DPS it can pump out but there has to be some kind of draw back to using
it. Get rid of the accuracy bonuses, lower the clip size and the gun
will be more of an alternative to the reegar rather than completely
outclassing it.


This would hurt the Turian Soldier, but the GI still gets his 5000 damage per second, or whatever it is.


Well, it is only the shotgug. Accuracy bonus still works on other 4 kinds of weapon.
And Piranha will still be good in close range.





The part I'm not understanding is - why remove the accuracy bonuses?  Why wouldn't you remove the damage bonuses instead? 



Removing the accuracy bonuses returns the gun to its (possibly) intended purpose: High damage at close quarters.

If you want to do the crazy DPS that the pirahna can pump out then you have to be willing to get in close and expose yourself to enemy fire. If you don't want to play the high risk, high reward playstyle then don't use the gun. At the moment, the pirahna can shoot and do decent damage to enemies with at least 2-3 times the range of the reegar and that is, quite frankly, ridiculous.

To be clear, I'm not saying that accuracy bonuses should be removed from the destroyer, turian or geth, just the pirahna. Not sure if it's something Bioware can do but it would be preferable to a damage reduction. I'm speaking as a vanguard junkie, for the record. I love the pirahna on my Krogan and human, but I'd like to see it more comparable to the reegar (similar to how the GPS and Graal are alternatives to one another).

Modifié par Shoelesscomsonaut, 27 juillet 2012 - 06:26 .


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Atheosis wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

The problem is with the GI not with the Piranha. GI has very high weapon bonuses. So if you want to nerf something, nerf GI.


At this point I'm starting to think the GI needs to be redesigned rather than nerfed.  In particular I'm thinking that Proximity Mine simply needs to be replaced by something else, preferably a power that doesn't do over a 1000 damage over an area while increasing damage 20%.


this is a co-op game the proxy mine helps the squad.  bioware should just remove the scoreboard and just put a total for people who have inferiority complexes.  nerfers should play a different game this game can only be balanced if we all use one character and weapon.  im so tired of people whining because they got outscored by somebody else.  

Modifié par bogsters23, 27 juillet 2012 - 06:24 .


#212
CyRaK MJ0LNIR

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Nerfers, nerfers everywhere. Somebody please save us.

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Meh, To play this way the player has to play well in close combat. It is not a one shot shotgun + GI squishiness means frequent death for players who are not very good. Played with a GI who did this today. Insane amt of damage but basically I was his freaking mobile medigel dispenser. Will never play with anyone who has this setup again. Most likely than not they will die frequently

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AdrunkGirlScout wrote...



Never seen Brutes die that fast even on Bronze.  This is just amazing and the sad thing is, it will most likely get nerfed even though all the gear was earned and he just put the pieces together.  That build is nothing short of God mode and I believed he earned it.

Thoughts? 

Also, I apologize if this has been posted/mentioned already.  Curious for some discussion.


LOL, I can one-shot a Brute with a Claymore. Now, my friend, that was on silver. Brutes aren't that much sturdier on Gold, and I was only using a human infiltrator when I was using the Claymore. Not that big a deal bro. :P

P. S. No equipment or gear bonus either. Just Shredder with Extended Barrel mods and everything maxed.

Modifié par Vault Boy X360, 27 juillet 2012 - 08:41 .


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I scored 170k points in a 16 minute game with the asari vanguard in gold yesterday  with the reegar basically the same thing without the retarded farm every crdit round down to the last second for more points tacic. So I guess we should nerf that class too.

That jumpin guy is a moron, and playing like that to score the highest possible score with with 3 peolpe basically afk'ing is ****ing retarded.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 27 juillet 2012 - 08:43 .


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A Wild Snorlax wrote...

I scored 170k points in a 16 minute game with the asari vanguard in gold yesterday  with the reegar basically the same thing without the retarded farm every crdit round down to the last second for more points tacic. So I guess we should nerf that class too.

That jumpin guy is a moron, and playing like that to score the highest possible score with with 3 peolpe basically afk'ing is ****ing retarded.


FFS, they were intentionally dragging the game out for their clan members -____-

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i personally think the whiners r the camper who camps on White, Geth, Gold. bc they dont move around they just enjoy their spots while players, with this build running around, killing their mobs. does GI and Piranha need to be nerfed? i dont think so, ppl. if a player sucks, no matter what they use, they still suck. for a good player, such as jumpin (from the vid), doesnt matter what he uses, he still scores high. and fyi, imo, if the infiltrator gets nerfed again, there will be none that'll play this class. and guess what, it's an RPG, and this build is supposed to deal DMG, that's y it's squishy, if it gets nerfed again, it'll be like a decorative glass in every run, does nothing but looks pretty, and it's not even that pretty lol. so the whiner/nerfer, u'd better learn to play, Unknown Unknown Gold, not to camp Geth, White, Gold.

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the piranha must be nerfed. It's too powerfull. Let it die, it's for the best...

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Let's nerf every gun that is good on a GI...

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I'm not watching the video, but that dude is just greedy. It's a long video, and he just tried to score points. It's more points than a solo.

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Just remove the GI from the game, it's ridiculous with every weapon.

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theillusiveman11 wrote...

GI + Any Weapon = 374,557 on Gold



There's also a ridiculous amount of point padding.

Modifié par Xaijin, 30 juillet 2012 - 03:58 .


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This is a really bad thread. The GI can top score with any weapon, god I've done it with the PARTICLE RIFLE on gold, with good players too and with lag.

It doesn't outdps the reegar

#224
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Tired of nerfers? Join No Nerfducks.

Modifié par Lofrof, 30 juillet 2012 - 04:03 .


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the time is coming...soon the piranha will go from OP to legit..