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[Titus Thongger]

For some reason the only UR I've been getting consistently is the javelin (now up to IV) and Ive tried and ive tried to use this weapon and its usefulness remains to be seen. It can barely 1shot standard grunts on gold, does average damage against armor, its stupid charge up time makes it difficult to hit nimble enemies like phantoms and nemesi, and apart from a cool hud just feels garbage. I tried using it on my not-caring Krogan sentinel and I always swapped out to my claymore x due to its uselessness.

is there anyway of making this weapon work?

[Biotic_Warlock]

This weapon does require a lot of practice due to its very high zoom and 0.3s(ish) charge-up.

[Justinmiles19]

Shieldgate.

[nomad311]

I have it at VII, which is my highest UR, and I loathe it. I'm just terrible with it. I'm not a super sniper anyway, but that lag before the shot really screws me up. Shield gate really blows on this weapon too. It seems to do really well for me on boss enemies, but that's about it for me. Not to mention it's crazy heavy, which may not matter on an infiltrator anyway, but still it's hefty!

[Titus Thongger]

random store they said...

GOD-DAMN JAVELIN I SAID!

[Pedactor]

The Mantis is superior to both other single shot snipers due to shield gate and a massively lighter weight.

Your damage is effectively capped against anything with a shield or barrier. Just use AP ammo or a piercing mod on the mantis if you want to shoot through cover. Same thing really.

Shield gate needs removed for all 3 guns.

[Saradas85]

worst UR ever

[Bruno Kitsune]

In the right hands this weapon could do tons of damage. With the Salarian infiltrator, for example, you could drain the shield them shoot in the head.

But no, isn’t my favorite sniper, but some friends can do massive damage with that, one of them N7_Fixx21, did almost 190k in one platinum match yesterday.

As the same way tons of people call the Indra X the worse UR in the game. I disagree, a few days ago I played with that with my Salarian Infiltrator (level 17) on a U/U/P (Jade – Reaper) and I made a 190k score (damage and piercing mod for the weapon, and incendiary, stabilization and sniper damage in the gear). Is pretty much a matter of get used to it more than anything.

Modifié par Bruno Kitsune, 27 juillet 2012 - 01:57 .

[ToaOrka]

I heard it's a boss-killer, but that's it's only strong point.

[canerican]

use it on ur geth infiltrator, as u will get he extra damage bonus for it being a geth weapon, and do notice that it already has armour piercing rounds, and its sight will outline enemies that u can hit (even when the are behind cover) so u jst wait for that pesky phantom/nemisis to go into cover hat you can shoot/get a good angle on.

[Melee or Die]

I've had the same issue with the charge time, that's an easily resolved issue, though. Keeps using it. As for making it useful; I'd put that on an offensively-built, Geth Infiltrator. With the Tac-cloak, prox-mines, Hunter Mode and power (1st tree) weapon bonus (last tree), you have the potential to make anything good. But, cooldown and you not being able to take damage will make it difficult.

One more character who can wield this efficiently is: The N7 Destroyer. Skip the Missile launcher power, set the first passive tree for power, power, then a weapon bonus, go all out on Devastator Mode and give him max health bonuses.

[Riotstean]

Saradas85 wrote...

worst UR ever

I don't know about that PR is right there with it if not the winner of the worst.

[Nitrocuban]

Javelin has to be pretty high rank to have more dmg than the good old Widow X, and then you have to deal with weight, fire delay, strange zoom, low ammo count, single shot with long reload and shield gate.
It´s simple not worth killing a boss in 3 instead of 4 shots but being pretty helpless when a Husk gets close.

[sydsyrious]

I just got mine to Level X and still can't use it. Maybe they will do something to make this gun viable to more people....we can only hope. At least I won't get it anymore...or the Indra.

[nomad311]

Riotstean wrote...

Saradas85 wrote...

worst UR ever

I don't know about that PR is right there with it if not the winner of the worst.

Heh, I'd rather have the Particle Rifle at 7 than my stupid Javelin at 7. 

[Titus Thongger]

Unless it was due to lag, I havent felt that it does significantly more damage vs bosses and armor than my claymore x. and against shields it only takes a bar or two off an atlas at gold. Maybe I'll give it a whirl on my Geth Infiltrator. except he'll be near useless if anything so much as comes within sneezing distance of him

[Brother Takka]

Not really, it's a bit pants.

[Traim Eisenblut]

canerican wrote...

use it on ur geth infiltrator, as u will get he extra damage bonus for it being a geth weapon, and do notice that it already has armour piercing rounds, and its sight will outline enemies that u can hit (even when the are behind cover) so u jst wait for that pesky phantom/nemisis to go into cover hat you can shoot/get a good angle on.

Bonus damage does not help against shield-gate. The Javelin is terrible, plain and simple, but on higher difficulties no sniper-rifle can compete with shotguns. Use a Claymore on a GI and you can kill brutes in one shot. Use a piranha and you simply kill everything on the move...
Single-shot damage is not really a good indicator of a guns strenght. DPS is. Though certain guns compensate their lack in DPS with other abilities, armor-penetration isn't one of them. Staggering or AoE would be. Not even the Black Widow is any good compared to shotguns or Harrier/Typhoon, even some SMGs trumps over them in the hand of the right characters. Sadly, Sniping is rather bad in this game. Still fun, but slows you down a lot.

[Pedactor]

Traim Eisenblut wrote...



Bonus damage does not help against shield-gate. The Javelin is terrible, plain and simple, but on higher difficulties no sniper-rifle can compete with shotguns. Use a Claymore on a GI and you can kill brutes in one shot. Use a piranha and you simply kill everything on the move...
Single-shot damage is not really a good indicator of a guns strenght. DPS is. Though certain guns compensate their lack in DPS with other abilities, armor-penetration isn't one of them. Staggering or AoE would be. Not even the Black Widow is any good compared to shotguns or Harrier/Typhoon, even some SMGs trumps over them in the hand of the right characters. Sadly, Sniping is rather bad in this game. Still fun, but slows you down a lot.

Indra is the best SR now.  I'm serious.  And it's so light you can have a Piranha with it.

Try it on a GI.  Use SR rail amps, and put Piercing and EB mods on it.  Its damage per clip is pretty strong and Hunter mode RoF gives you 4-5 rounds per TC cycle.

[Hexi-decimal]

Pedactor wrote...

Traim Eisenblut wrote...



Bonus damage does not help against shield-gate. The Javelin is terrible, plain and simple, but on higher difficulties no sniper-rifle can compete with shotguns. Use a Claymore on a GI and you can kill brutes in one shot. Use a piranha and you simply kill everything on the move...
Single-shot damage is not really a good indicator of a guns strenght. DPS is. Though certain guns compensate their lack in DPS with other abilities, armor-penetration isn't one of them. Staggering or AoE would be. Not even the Black Widow is any good compared to shotguns or Harrier/Typhoon, even some SMGs trumps over them in the hand of the right characters. Sadly, Sniping is rather bad in this game. Still fun, but slows you down a lot.

Indra is the best SR now.  I'm serious.  And it's so light you can have a Piranha with it.

Try it on a GI.  Use SR rail amps, and put Piercing and EB mods on it.  Its damage per clip is pretty strong and Hunter mode RoF gives you 4-5 rounds per TC cycle.

Or you can just...ED then fire.

Personally love this sniper.  I am not saying it's better or worse than anything, but ED combined with any one shot sniper and that one shot sniper is effective, assuming you are decent at head shots.  It hits super hard.  Can see through smoke AND walls.  If the targe is lit up purple, shoot it.  As long as you can see them through your scope you can hit them.  

Granted it has a pathetically small clip size, even with the extra clip.  Like any other sniper it's good against some mobs and bad against others (husks).

My biggest issue with it, is it's weight.  You really want to bring along another weapon since it's clip size is so small, but it weighs so much that makes it prohibitive.   This isn't always and issue on Infil for obvious reasons.  However when it is an issue it's a huge one.  Staying cloaked too long really messes up your cooldowns.  If you are really good about breaking your own stealth and never use it for prolonged periods (or very rarely) it can be a really solid gun.  

The real issue though is that no matter how good you are, you will likely be playing second fiddle to someone else since there are other better builds out there, most of which don't include a sniper rifle at all.

Modifié par Hexi-decimal, 27 juillet 2012 - 03:14 .

[Pedactor]

Hexi-decimal wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

Traim Eisenblut wrote...



Bonus damage does not help against shield-gate. The Javelin is terrible, plain and simple, but on higher difficulties no sniper-rifle can compete with shotguns. Use a Claymore on a GI and you can kill brutes in one shot. Use a piranha and you simply kill everything on the move...
Single-shot damage is not really a good indicator of a guns strenght. DPS is. Though certain guns compensate their lack in DPS with other abilities, armor-penetration isn't one of them. Staggering or AoE would be. Not even the Black Widow is any good compared to shotguns or Harrier/Typhoon, even some SMGs trumps over them in the hand of the right characters. Sadly, Sniping is rather bad in this game. Still fun, but slows you down a lot.

Indra is the best SR now.  I'm serious.  And it's so light you can have a Piranha with it.

Try it on a GI.  Use SR rail amps, and put Piercing and EB mods on it.  Its damage per clip is pretty strong and Hunter mode RoF gives you 4-5 rounds per TC cycle.

Or you can just...ED then fire.

Modded out it's not bad against armor, really.

[Traim Eisenblut]

Pedactor wrote...

Traim Eisenblut wrote...



Bonus damage does not help against shield-gate. The Javelin is terrible, plain and simple, but on higher difficulties no sniper-rifle can compete with shotguns. Use a Claymore on a GI and you can kill brutes in one shot. Use a piranha and you simply kill everything on the move...
Single-shot damage is not really a good indicator of a guns strenght. DPS is. Though certain guns compensate their lack in DPS with other abilities, armor-penetration isn't one of them. Staggering or AoE would be. Not even the Black Widow is any good compared to shotguns or Harrier/Typhoon, even some SMGs trumps over them in the hand of the right characters. Sadly, Sniping is rather bad in this game. Still fun, but slows you down a lot.

Indra is the best SR now.  I'm serious.  And it's so light you can have a Piranha with it.

Try it on a GI.  Use SR rail amps, and put Piercing and EB mods on it.  Its damage per clip is pretty strong and Hunter mode RoF gives you 4-5 rounds per TC cycle.

Or I pic a claymore and deal more damage in one shot than the Indra with a full magazine...
Sorry, but the current balancing punishes players for using a sniper-rifle. You should have a really high Damage-Output with them, but in fact you lack it compared to every good shotgun in the game.

[TMB903]

Very useful but shield gate cripples it...It's murder against armor though

[darkchief10]

I'm the only javelin fan aren't I?

[Pedactor]

Traim Eisenblut wrote...

Pedactor wrote...

Traim Eisenblut wrote...



Bonus damage does not help against shield-gate. The Javelin is terrible, plain and simple, but on higher difficulties no sniper-rifle can compete with shotguns. Use a Claymore on a GI and you can kill brutes in one shot. Use a piranha and you simply kill everything on the move...
Single-shot damage is not really a good indicator of a guns strenght. DPS is. Though certain guns compensate their lack in DPS with other abilities, armor-penetration isn't one of them. Staggering or AoE would be. Not even the Black Widow is any good compared to shotguns or Harrier/Typhoon, even some SMGs trumps over them in the hand of the right characters. Sadly, Sniping is rather bad in this game. Still fun, but slows you down a lot.

Indra is the best SR now.  I'm serious.  And it's so light you can have a Piranha with it.

Try it on a GI.  Use SR rail amps, and put Piercing and EB mods on it.  Its damage per clip is pretty strong and Hunter mode RoF gives you 4-5 rounds per TC cycle.

Or I pic a claymore and deal more damage in one shot than the Indra with a full magazine...
Sorry, but the current balancing punishes players for using a sniper-rifle. You should have a really high Damage-Output with them, but in fact you lack it compared to every good shotgun in the game.

Yes, but I can equip both a Shotgun and a Sniper Rifle on my GI using the Indra...........