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[Windninja47]

 As I'm sure you are aware, there are a few people who would like to play as different races in DA3. However, peple have also pointed out that this may make things difficult as you would need to hire 6 voice actors (Dwarf Female/Male, Elf Male/Female, Human Male/Female) just for the main character. But what if Bioware made a compromise. 

If Bioware were to go down the route of- you can play as an Elven Male/Female or a Human Male/Female and each has a different voice, would you be okay with this compromise? After all, only a very small percentage of people played as dwarfs in Origins...

Modifié par Windninja47, 27 juillet 2012 - 05:00 .

[DarthChicken]

Personally, I'd rather not be able to play as an elf. Of course, that's just me.
I'm also one of the people who doesn't mind not having an origin as long as the PC we play as is interesting.

Modifié par DarthChicken, 27 juillet 2012 - 04:42 .

[WardenWade]

For my part, I would like the option we had in Origins to play as all the races (ideally including kossith as well in the future) to return. Regarding dwarves specifically, as they exist in Thedas as the other races do, and IMO have a large part to play in its story, I myself would prefer not to lose the option of playing them.

I hope all races return as playable in the DA series

Modifié par WardenWade, 27 juillet 2012 - 04:58 .

[Melca36]

Windninja47 wrote...

 As I'm sure you are aware, there are a few people who would like to play as different races in DA3. However, peple have also pointed out that this may make things difficult as you would need to hire 6 voice actors (Dwarf Female/Male, Elf Male/Female, Human Male/Female) just for the main character. But what if Bioware made a compromise. 

If Bioware were to go down the route of- you can play as an Elven Male/Female or a Human Male/Female and each has a different voice, would you be okay with this compromise? After all, only a very small percentage of people played as dwarfs in Origins...

Considering only 5% played dwarves, I don't think that race will ever be playable again.

[coles4971]

While I'd love to play as a non-human, considering the statistics I doubt it'll ever happen again.

[Morty Smith]

They made it possible, it worked well.

As long as we must have a voiced protagonist, it is simple math.

I would rather see my character with a slight animated representation of the choice´s "color" like in JE than having a voice forced on her/him. Maybe leaving sound to laughter and puffs during a conversation, like the battlesounds.

They could reinvent the "silent"-protagonist, but they rather take a system that already existed because the don´t want to take risks. And they didn´t with DA2. Reusing fundamental game design from ME-1 and 2 isn´t.

To answer the question,

it´s not a game-breaker for me, if the alternative is promising.

[LobselVith8]

Windninja47 wrote...

 As I'm sure you are aware, there are a few people who would like to play as different races in DA3. However, peple have also pointed out that this may make things difficult as you would need to hire 6 voice actors (Dwarf Female/Male, Elf Male/Female, Human Male/Female) just for the main character. But what if Bioware made a compromise. 

If Bioware were to go down the route of- you can play as an Elven Male/Female or a Human Male/Female and each has a different voice, would you be okay with this compromise? After all, only a very small percentage of people played as dwarfs in Origins...

I played through Origins as the Surana Warden - the elven protagonist from the Circle of Ferelden; I would like to see the return of the elven protagonist in a good Dragon Age story.

While the percentage may not be that high, I think the effort should be made to return all the race options from Origins.

[Merlex]

Windninja47 wrote...

 As I'm sure you are aware, there are a few people who would like to play as different races in DA3. However, peple have also pointed out that this may make things difficult as you would need to hire 6 voice actors (Dwarf Female/Male, Elf Male/Female, Human Male/Female) just for the main character. But what if Bioware made a compromise. 

If Bioware were to go down the route of- you can play as an Elven Male/Female or a Human Male/Female and each has a different voice, would you be okay with this compromise? After all, only a very small percentage of people played as dwarfs in Origins...

I'd like to have choice of race. If they all had the same origin (city or whatever), they wouldn't need extra voice actors. Varric had the same accent as Hawk.

[Arthur Cousland]

I'd play as a dwarf if given the option over playing as an elf, or human.

Dwarves look better with beards than humans, and I like their short, stocky build, in any kind of armor.

What if someone would prefer the option to play as a kossith over an elf? If Bioware aren't going to bring back the option to play as both elves and dwarves, then they may as well stick with human only.

As many have said in other topics just like this one, the same voice could be used for multiple races.

*Also, those same numbers that suggested that 99.99% of people preferred human characters also suggested that most people didn't complete a playthrough of Origin, and many didn't even make it past Ostagar.  I also wonder how many of those people who made human characters restarted their characters repeatedly, which bloated those numbers.

If someone is going to play a game in a fantasy setting where people shoot fireballs from their fingers and fight dragons, why be so hesitant to play a non-human race?  Might as well make a blue-haired elf/dwarf and go all the way.

Modifié par Arthur Cousland, 28 juillet 2012 - 12:37 .

[King Killoth]

If they are going to have multiple races it would feel like a bit of a rip off for those that actualy liked playing as a dwarf like my self. you could not just remove one of the three races just to make it less costly and if they wanted to cut corners again why not just use the same voice actor for all the males and one for all the females. but then again that would ****** every one off.. the only real way they can keep face is if they are goign to have an orgins like creation then they will have to have all three races and either make you silent again or have a voice for each option.

[Maclimes]

DarthChicken wrote...

Personally, I'd rather not be able to play as an elf. Of course, that's just me.
I'm also one of the people who doesn't mind not having an origin as long as the PC we play as is interesting.

I'm with Sith Lord Fowl on this one.

As long as it is well done and interesting, I don't need Origins.

I'd rather have one compelling, well-acted, interesting character with lots of lines instead of 3 or 4 different weak, diminished personalities.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Since I don't want BioWare to establish the PC's personality at all (that's my job), I see no downside offering more options.

[Uccio]

No. I do want to play as dwarf. The noble and commoner characters were excellent in DAO. Human only pc sucks.

[Pzykozis]

Uhh, for me that'd be pretty silly bringing back the elves only would seem abit weird. I'd prefer the case be all or nothing single voice for everything works for me too.

[nightscrawl]

Windninja47 wrote...

If Bioware were to go down the route of- you can play as an Elven Male/Female or a Human Male/Female and each has a different voice, would you be okay with this compromise? After all, only a very small percentage of people played as dwarfs in Origins...

Variety for all or none. IMO it's really not fair to allow the people who play as elves, which is only marginally higher than dwarves, to have their race while ignoring the dwarf players.

For those interested, here are David's posts on the subject. He also makes a point to mention that just because so few people played those races in DAO does not mean they will be excluded from all future games.

David Gaider wrote...

I suspect that most people, when selecting their race/origin, didn't really have much to base that decision off of other than their base preference for how a race looks and the written blurb-- if they read it.

As for the figures we have, our telemetry is able to break down unique accounts that play the game more than once or restart-- and the figures I quoted for DAO are the number of unique accounts that ever played an origin, whether it was all the way to the end or not. I'm not going to start rattling off figures (since I don't have them in front of me, and wouldn't be at liberty to start handing them out even if they were) but I do recall the dwarven origins being 5% of the total (3% dwarf noble, 2% dwarf commoner). The elven figure was higher, but still a fair distance from the human noble and human mage.

Again, is that indicative of anything? There are a lot of reasons a player might choose to do something and you don't want to make assumptions about their motivation. And just because a minority of players finish a game doesn't mean you don't put in an ending. Still, it's better to work from hard data than conjecture or anecdotal evidence when citing preferences of the player base as a whole.

[brushyourteeth]

It'd be okay.
But only okay. Not great.

Besides, I don't hold with this nonsense about 6 voice actors being needed to bring back race options. There's no good reason 1 female VA and 1 male VA couldn't voice them all. 

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 27 juillet 2012 - 09:36 .

[Nerdage]

So long as I can choose to be human, I'm not all that bothered about the other race options.

Half the wardens I've imported so far have been elves but given how scrawny they've become I'm not desperate to play one again, and the main reason I never finished a dwarf character was because I never really got a sense of place with them, there was nothing interesting about being a dwarf except when you were in Orzammar (though, to be fair, the Orzammar bits were great as a dwarf), and if the choice if just a cosmetic one I don't think it's worth the effort to implement and (to my mind) makes the character harder to play.

I don't think there necessarily needs to be different actors for each race of PC, mind you. A voice might go better with one race than another, but the same could be said for a character's face, and they still give you the option to customize that.

[Uccio]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Besides, I don't hold with this nonsense about 6 voice actors being needed to bring back race options. There's no good reason 1 female VA and 1 male VA couldn't voice them all. 

Exactly, I´ve been saying this all the time.

Modifié par Ukki, 27 juillet 2012 - 10:15 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

brushyourteeth wrote...

It'd be okay.
But only okay. Not great.

Besides, I don't hold with this nonsense about 6 voice actors being needed to bring back race options. There's no good reason 1 female VA and 1 male VA couldn't voice them all. 

That they're already established as having different accents is kind of a big deal.

[Dave of Canada]

Only a small percentage played elves too, does it mean we can dismiss them as well?

[Chiramu]

Even if we can't play as a non-human, playing as a half-human would be good too . Like actually have a different model for half-elves (they don't have the pointy ears, but they still look more elven to a human than a normal human). Or even a half-dwarf. Or half-Qunari (jeez that would be a scary encounter!).
Just to mix it up a bit from all the "pureblood" characters. Majority of people on Earth are a mix of a LOT of people from a lot of places around the world. It would be nice to play as something that wasn't pureblood.

[Merci357]

I'm not that fond of playing stocky, burly humanoids (just honest here...), but then again more variety is always better.

And, honestly, dwarfes and elves don't need additional voice actors at all - just re-use the human voice for them. That's fine for me - far better then having no race choice at all. And I can think of plenty of reasons why this particular elf or dwarf has a "human" accent. So can you. So can Bioware, I guess.

[Vaeliorin]

How about we drop humans, and just have dwarves, elves, and kossith.

Honestly, if we get elves but no dwarves, I shall be very unhappy.

[Wrathion]

Eh...I have limited experience with the Dwarven origins. My first dwarf commoner origin corrupted before Ostagar and the noble origin was long and boring. Dropping the option to play them wouldn't affect me all that much, but I have many friends that ADORE the dwarven origins. Their pain is my pain.

As for the "too many voice actresses" thing. Just use one male and female voice. It would be nice if they were ambiguous though. The voices for male and female Hawke only matched up with the default faces in my opinion. It was irritating.

[Fast Jimmy]

I would buy this argument if it was framed as 'dwarves are too short and would require way too much work rendering armor, conversations, etc., because of the height difference.' I can buy that, possibly.

However the voice is something that can easily be solved.

I'd rather have a dwarf origin (as they were the best outside of the Mage). However, if they were removed, I'd only accept it if both elves and Kossiths origins were added, since the relative sizes are close to that of humans.