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[AresKeith]

Video games nowadays trys to kill the main character, so I expect it to happen

[C9316]

I picked destroy to end the threat of the Reapers completely. I would've chosen it even if we didn't get that little breath scene

[Apathy1989]

I understood it as I would die, and chose it as such first time.

And I did die, only with EC I got to live.

[Carlthestrange]

AresKeith wrote...

Video games nowadays trys to kill the main character, so I expect it to happen

Kinda reminds me of the line from Darksiders.

"Sometimes, the hero dies at the end."

[Kalundume]

I picked destroy, because it seems the least bad choice: not because Shepard lives (his story finishes anyway), Control ending is TIM's ending and does not get rid of reapers, Synthesis is a space magic and "Refusal" is BWs middle finger... so there is only one possible choice, even by the cost of Edi and Geth.

[D24O]

Gallifreya wrote...

I pick destroy because both of the other options are ideals of the enemy. Shepard living or dying has little to do with it.

Not unless you actually agree with them. Really Destroy is a facet of the enemy's idealogy as well, as all synthetic life dies when you choose it. If you don't agree with the Catalyst, jumping into the beam or shooting the tube doesn't change that.

[wook77]

I'm not going to side with TIM. I thought he was an idiot. That's why I got him to commit suicide. Why would an elevator ride to SpaceKid Mountain make me change my mind?

The only good Reaper is a dead Reaper. Destroy is the only choice IMHO.

Having that dark, barely-can-see breath scene doesn't affect my decision at all.

[Carlthestrange]

I confess, partially I also picked destroy as I felt it was the ultimate Middle finger at Cerberus.

[Auckmid]

Nah, 2 second breath scene was worthless. I picked destroy because the other 2 endings didn't make much sence(Shpard: Are you willing to be humanitys existence on it?) and refusal was practicaly critical mission failure. I didn't particularly like the endings, but I'm not going to go "All the choices are stupid, so I'm just not going to do anything".

[dublin omega 223]

I pick destroy because the other three options all stink.

[JG The Gamer]

Chose 'Destroy' to rid the galaxy of the Reapers forever.

Unfortunately it came at the cost of EDI and the geth. But the cost of not destroying the Reapers is too high and too risky. And we basically tell the cycles before us that we don't have the balls to make one more sacrifice to end the Reaper threat, a threat that has tormented the galaxy for millions if not billions of years, considering all the sacrifices made up to this point.

I usually presume all EDI's software was completely wiped and impossible to retrieve. Same went for the geth unfortunately without creating new software. And I assume all Reaper artifacts were destroyed too. I will always remember their sacrifice and cherish their memories. Because I know that without them, I would never have made it as far as I did.

None of the choices were meant to be double-rainbow endings. None of the endings were meant to occur without any sort of cost. Many gave up their lives so the rest of the galaxy would have a future. Twas a shame they couldn't see the future either. But we were able to rid the galaxy of the Reapers forever. Never again will they orbit bombard a colony/planet. Never again will someone be indoctrinated to accept the logic of another. Never again will an innocent person be turned into a husk or milkshake.

The galaxy will find a way to rebuild and restore itself to its former glory.

And my Shepard will live to see what 4 years of blood, tears, and sacrifice have accomplished for the galaxy.

[Uncle Jo]

D24O wrote...

Gallifreya wrote...

I pick destroy because both of the other options are ideals of the enemy. Shepard living or dying has little to do with it.

Not unless you actually agree with them. Really Destroy is a facet of the enemy's idealogy as well, as all synthetic life dies when you choose it. If you don't agree with the Catalyst, jumping into the beam or shooting the tube doesn't change that.

Dunno. You must agree with him to a certain point, because the game doesn't give you any other option anyway. If you don't "play the brat's game" and choose Refuse, it ends bad for the Galaxy.
I've chosen it for my first Post EC ending, without metagaming, got hyped by the speech of Shep, was glad to see the brat going mad and then came the beacon scene.

That said, IMO if you jump into the beam, you still completely validate the brats conclusions that organics and synthetics as such are condemned to eventually destroy each other, therefore you must radically change them. You're fullfilling what the Reapers always dreamt of. For me it's a complete capitulation. You've simply lost hope.

Destroy is the only option where the Reapers are completely removed from the equation. At the cost of the other synthetics. I think that for most of the Destroyers, the Reapers are the big troublemakers and the Galaxy will never be safe or able to evolve the way it should, with them hanging around.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 27 juillet 2012 - 10:34 .

[Si-Shen]

I picked Destroy because if felt like the right choice, Sythesis is a cope by Bioware IMHO, it also seemed wrong to force a change on everyone, and I dissagree, its not the final evolution. Control leaves an AI that pretends its part Shep in control, that will "protect" the galaxy from threats, how long until it deems the current races are a "threat" to a new organic one and destroys them to protect the new life? Its not a fix, its more like using duct tape to stop a leaky pipe, it will fail eventually.

[D24O]

Uncle Jo wrote...
Dunno. You must agree with him to a certain point, because the game doesn't give you any other option anyway. If you don't "play the brat's game" and choose Refuse, it ends bad for the Galaxy.
I've chosen it for my first Post EC ending, without metagaming, got hyped by the speech of Shep, was glad to see the brat getting mad and then came the beacon scene.

That said, IMO if you jump into the beam, you still completely validate the brats conclusions that organics and synthetics as such are condemned to eventually destroy each other, therefore you must radically change them. You're fullfilling what the Reapers always dreamt of. For me it's a complete capitulation. You've simply lost hope.

Destroy is the only option where the Reapers are completely removed from the equation. At the cost of the other synthetics. I think that for most of the Destroyers, the Reapers are the big troublemakers and the Galaxy will never be safe or able to evolve the way it should, with them hanging around.

I don't think that the player needs to agree with the Catalyst. Going by that logic choosing destroy tacitly acknoweledges that synthetics aren't as valid a form of existance as organics, which according to a number of people they don't aggree with. I think the best way to look at the choices would be to just ignore the Catalyst, and IMO the end would be substantially better if he wasn't the Reaper boss. But that's going outside the scope of this thread.

[Nerevar-as]

Carlthestrange wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Video games nowadays trys to kill the main character, so I expect it to happen

Kinda reminds me of the line from Darksiders.

"Sometimes, the hero dies at the end."

Something´s wrong if the army of genocidal AIs survive in more endings than the main character.

But I´d pick destroy even if Shepard only survived in Synthesis.

[Shadowvalker]

I often wonder about the last mail from Allers:

Normal is the best revenge...

Just saying....

[ForThessia]

I pick it to end the reapers once and for all, the only downside is EDI dying.

inb4rotgustobashingEDI

[TNT1991]

wipeoutboy wrote...

I pick it because shep survives at the end.

This. 100%

[Soltana]

I've given a whole lot of thought to all three endings. My contemplations have led me to some unsettling inevitabilities regarding control and synthesis that I won't get into here. In short, in my opinion, to truly end the cycle of extinction once and for all, destroy is the only choice.

That breath scene was a bullsh*t copout because they were too afraid to kill Shepard off completely. That being said, if it's supposed to imply my Shepard can get a happily ever after because of her choice, I'm not exactly gonna be mad about it.

[AresKeith]

Soltana wrote...

I've given a whole lot of thought to all three endings. My contemplations have led me to some unsettling inevitabilities regarding control and synthesis that I won't get into here. In short, in my opinion, to truly end the cycle of extinction once and for all, destroy is the only choice.

That breath scene was a bullsh*t copout because they were too afraid to kill Shepard off completely. That being said, if it's supposed to imply my Shepard can get a happily ever after because of her choice, I'm not exactly gonna be mad about it.

thats because fully killing off the main character has a chance to hurt DLC sales

[Uncle Jo]

D24O wrote...

I don't think that the player needs to agree with the Catalyst. Going by that logic choosing destroy tacitly acknoweledges that synthetics aren't as valid a form of existance as organics, which according to a number of people they don't aggree with. I think the best way to look at the choices would be to just ignore the Catalyst, and IMO the end would be substantially better if he wasn't the Reaper boss. But that's going outside the scope of this thread.

Even if it's off topic I completely agree with you that the brat should have been, at worst, a simple VI explaining the choices. At best never been on the Citadel to begin with. But he's there, spits out his c**p and even with my best will, I can't get him out of the picture. I wish I'd have enough of your wisdom.

I'd have chosen Destroy even if it was the humans who will be wiped out. Any other organic race being at stake wouldn't have changed my mind. In our case, it just happened that the Geth and EDI were the "chosen ones".
And it's not impossible that other synthetic races will see the light in the future.

But I do see your point. Still being forced to ignore a important character and headcanon the ending to make it a bit plausible, is pretty sad.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

AresKeith wrote...

Soltana wrote...

I've given a whole lot of thought to all three endings. My contemplations have led me to some unsettling inevitabilities regarding control and synthesis that I won't get into here. In short, in my opinion, to truly end the cycle of extinction once and for all, destroy is the only choice.

That breath scene was a bullsh*t copout because they were too afraid to kill Shepard off completely. That being said, if it's supposed to imply my Shepard can get a happily ever after because of her choice, I'm not exactly gonna be mad about it.

thats because fully killing off the main character has a chance to hurt DLC sales

Only a chance? Ha! They already are asking me to head canon the ending. I'm asking them to head canon the money.

* Dead = no DLC sales
* Maybe = some DLC sales (but not from me)
* Alive = DLC sales (take my money)  but you have to do better than that stinking breath.

[Darth Krytie]

I've checked the other endings out, just to see. But all my canon endings are Destroy. Shepard's been looking for a way to destroy the Reapers since she learned they existed, five minutes of conversation won't change a deeply held conviction.