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Modifié par Vitalik1993, 28 juillet 2012 - 03:49 .
Well, Destroyers also have a butt ton of shields and stagger immunity.Vitalik1993 wrote...
The only things Destroyers have going for them are Devastator mode and grenades. He is slow as hell and can't dodge. So yes, it would be extremely wise to nerf almost all they have going for them.
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Lambda_00 wrote...
Point will likely be moot as soon as BioWare releases the Super Penetration Mods anyways. (+90% Armor Penetration)
HahahaYeah. They like to do that. Release insane stuff then nerf it because it was...suprise!....INSANE! And not just nerf it. KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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Vitalik1993 wrote...
The only things Destroyers have going for them are Devastator mode and grenades. He is slow as hell and can't dodge. So yes, it would be extremely wise to nerf almost all they have going for them.
Although the GI can pack a punch, try being out of cover for a while and see what happens. Oh yeah, you get shot twice by a trooper and you're dead. GI is a high risk-high reward class and shouldn't have to be nerfed more.
Modifié par Air Quotes, 28 juillet 2012 - 03:58 .
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Vitalik1993 wrote...
The only things Destroyers have going for them are Devastator mode and grenades. He is slow as hell and can't dodge. So yes, it would be extremely wise to nerf almost all they have going for them.
Although the GI can pack a punch, try being out of cover for a while and see what happens. Oh yeah, you get shot twice by a trooper and you're dead. GI is a high risk-high reward class and shouldn't have to be nerfed more.
"Chuckles" at high risk part. :happy:
Destroyer is NOT THAT SLOW! And he can dodge. You just gotta turn off the mode. That's something Krogans, Turians or Batarians don't get with or without "modes". And he's stagger resistant. That's something Krogans also don't get (KV excluded) He can clear out a block in seconds with multi-frags. Devastator mode melts bosses with a good gun.
He's the best soldier by a mile. He's supposed to be. He's an N7 tank. But no other N7 character is THAT much better than their competition.
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Vitalik1993 wrote...
The only things Destroyers have going for them are Devastator mode and grenades. He is slow as hell and can't dodge. So yes, it would be extremely wise to nerf almost all they have going for them.
Although the GI can pack a punch, try being out of cover for a while and see what happens. Oh yeah, you get shot twice by a trooper and you're dead. GI is a high risk-high reward class and shouldn't have to be nerfed more.
"Chuckles" at high risk part. :happy:
Destroyer is NOT THAT SLOW! And he can dodge. You just gotta turn off the mode. That's something Krogans, Turians or Batarians don't get with or without "modes". And he's stagger resistant. That's something Krogans also don't get (KV excluded) He can clear out a block in seconds with multi-frags. Devastator mode melts bosses with a good gun.
He's the best soldier by a mile. He's supposed to be. He's an N7 tank. But no other N7 character is THAT much better than their competition.
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Kalas321 wrote...
You are not asking for nerfs. You are asking to completely rework the class. You are limiting their options and GI is even more deadly with a GPS. Problem is it is a host dependent weapon which is why it is not overused. You need a patch for these changes.
I'm not really limiting options. I'm just encouraging Geth weapon usage. You can still pack a Claymore or a Piranha or anything just fine. But without huge damage boosts from Hunter Mode.
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Vitalik1993 wrote...
The only things Destroyers have going for them are Devastator mode and grenades. He is slow as hell and can't dodge. So yes, it would be extremely wise to nerf almost all they have going for them.
Although the GI can pack a punch, try being out of cover for a while and see what happens. Oh yeah, you get shot twice by a trooper and you're dead. GI is a high risk-high reward class and shouldn't have to be nerfed more.
"Chuckles" at high risk part. :happy:
Destroyer is NOT THAT SLOW! And he can dodge. You just gotta turn off the mode. That's something Krogans, Turians or Batarians don't get with or without "modes". And he's stagger resistant. That's something Krogans also don't get (KV excluded) He can clear out a block in seconds with multi-frags. Devastator mode melts bosses with a good gun.
He's the best soldier by a mile. He's supposed to be. He's an N7 tank. But no other N7 character is THAT much better than their competition.
Woa woa woa WOA! Best sodier by a mile? I don't think so. Turian Soldier can put out damage far faster than the Destroyer with the right gun, and even snipe with the piranha. The regular humans can insta reload and insta regen their shields with adrenaline rush, also getting a much ore substantial dmage boost for that time period. Using this smartly you can seem to have far more health than the Destroyer and can have strong long bursts of damage output. With a bit of timing, those two classes can even out do the Destroyer. Those soldiers aren't lacking, the Destroyer just doesn't have to pay as much attention to his skills being on or off.
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Vitalik1993 wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
Vitalik1993 wrote...
The only things Destroyers have going for them are Devastator mode and grenades. He is slow as hell and can't dodge. So yes, it would be extremely wise to nerf almost all they have going for them.
Although the GI can pack a punch, try being out of cover for a while and see what happens. Oh yeah, you get shot twice by a trooper and you're dead. GI is a high risk-high reward class and shouldn't have to be nerfed more.
"Chuckles" at high risk part. :happy:
Destroyer is NOT THAT SLOW! And he can dodge. You just gotta turn off the mode. That's something Krogans, Turians or Batarians don't get with or without "modes". And he's stagger resistant. That's something Krogans also don't get (KV excluded) He can clear out a block in seconds with multi-frags. Devastator mode melts bosses with a good gun.
He's the best soldier by a mile. He's supposed to be. He's an N7 tank. But no other N7 character is THAT much better than their competition.
So with that you contradict yourself...
And he is THAT slow.
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CoolHanc101 wrote...
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Kalas321 wrote...
You are not asking for nerfs. You are asking to completely rework the class. You are limiting their options and GI is even more deadly with a GPS. Problem is it is a host dependent weapon which is why it is not overused. You need a patch for these changes.
I'm not really limiting options. I'm just encouraging Geth weapon usage. You can still pack a Claymore or a Piranha or anything just fine. But without huge damage boosts from Hunter Mode.
"But without huge damage boosts from Hunter Mode"
Huge? Are you high? It's only 17.50% And the worst thing: reducing your shield to only 50% of the original.
17.50% is only a minor fraction compared to: A. cloak (80% if you go for the damage) B. Adrenaline Rush (70% if you go for the damage)
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Vitalik1993 wrote...
The only things Destroyers have going for them are Devastator mode and grenades. He is slow as hell and can't dodge. So yes, it would be extremely wise to nerf almost all they have going for them.
Although the GI can pack a punch, try being out of cover for a while and see what happens. Oh yeah, you get shot twice by a trooper and you're dead. GI is a high risk-high reward class and shouldn't have to be nerfed more.
"Chuckles" at high risk part. :happy:
Destroyer is NOT THAT SLOW! And he can dodge. You just gotta turn off the mode. That's something Krogans, Turians or Batarians don't get with or without "modes". And he's stagger resistant. That's something Krogans also don't get (KV excluded) He can clear out a block in seconds with multi-frags. Devastator mode melts bosses with a good gun.
He's the best soldier by a mile. He's supposed to be. He's an N7 tank. But no other N7 character is THAT much better than their competition.
Woa woa woa WOA! Best sodier by a mile? I don't think so. Turian Soldier can put out damage far faster than the Destroyer with the right gun, and even snipe with the piranha. The regular humans can insta reload and insta regen their shields with adrenaline rush, also getting a much ore substantial dmage boost for that time period. Using this smartly you can seem to have far more health than the Destroyer and can have strong long bursts of damage output. With a bit of timing, those two classes can even out do the Destroyer. Those soldiers aren't lacking, the Destroyer just doesn't have to pay as much attention to his skills being on or off.
Turian or Human will have to lose some of the valuable skills or passives. They are dependant on weapon weight somewhat too. (abilities on CD)
Destroyer can max out everything because ML's is useless. His DPS is uber there's no denying that and it's ALWAYS on. His shields are good, he's stagger resistant and his frags are probably the best nades in the game. He can shoot and frag at the same time. Turian can't.
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mbergeron468 wrote...
For the Op, what difficulty are you basing this discussion on?
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tonnactus wrote...
Other classes need to get stronger. That how balance should be done.
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LegionofRannoch wrote...
geth inftltrators have low survivability and N7 destroyers have a lack of mobility. he carrys the heavy guns. he can always run out of ammo if your not careful.
these characters shouldnt recieve any kind of critisizm because they dish out alot of damage without being heavily shielded or very mobile. they have flaws and if your able to lessen these flaws with shield modulator 3 or 4 and adrenaline mod. then yes, these characters will be at their best and certainly not nerf worthy.
equipment creates the best soldier possible.
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