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How would I balance GI and Destroyer.


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Don't destroy our destroyer sad face U_u

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Now I know I'm gonna get flamed hardcore for this, but I'll post my thoughts anyway.  

The reason why there are SO many weapon nerf theads and the reason why we can't have powerful weapons is because GI and Destroyer makes them INSANE. It's just a fact. Any good weapon becomes godly in their hands because of the damage, accuracy and ROF buffs they have. 

Now I'm not asking for a nerf here. 

I think Bioware's idea with the Geth is that they supposed to use Geth weapons. That's why they gave them geth weapon boosts - fine. Reduce the general damage boosts of Hunter mode to all weapons and put them to Geth ones to encourage the usage of Javelin, GPS, GPSMG and GPR. All of these weapons have some kind of drawback and the damage boosts from Hunter mode won't make them OP.

Destroyer. He's suppose to be a walking turret. Meaning rapid fire weapons. So make his weapon damage boosts that he gets from Devastator mode apply ONLY to Assault Rifles. 

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Please let Bioware do their jobs. The more we ask for nerfs and buffs, the more likely they are to just give the fans what they want rather than do what's best for the game. If they go off what the fans want all the time then they won't feel the need to test the game as much. This game needs some QA testing big time.

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I'm not touching Destroyer. Bioware will do that.

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If all classes would reach GI/Destroyer level of DPS even Platinum would be a complete joke. 


Not all players have the needed awareness and reaction times to survive Platinum with a Geth Infiltrator. The ordinary players is what matters,not a small minority.

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If all classes would reach GI/Destroyer level of DPS even Platinum would be a complete joke. 


Not all players have the needed awareness and reaction times to survive Platinum with a Geth Infiltrator. The ordinary players is what matters,not a small minority.

True. But the small minority is the loudest. And most persistant. 

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ITT: Heavily specialized builds do their jobs to well. Nerf them. *facepalm*

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Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.




I choose option c avoid both hazards

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LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.




I choose option c avoid both hazards


Yeah. I would choose it if could too. But it's not possible. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 28 juillet 2012 - 08:20 .


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Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.




I choose option c avoid both hazards


Yeah. I would choose it if could too. But it's not possible. 



Well that is your believe then because I don't think either of these have to happen lol

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LiarasShield wrote...

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Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.




I choose option c avoid both hazards


Yeah. I would choose it if could too. But it's not possible. 



Well that is your believe then because I don't think either of these have to happen lol


I'm telling you. Either weapons get constantly nerfed or classes that are good with ALL weapons get nerfed. 

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"How would I balance GI and Destroyer."
You are asking a question, yet making a statement below.

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Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.




I choose option c avoid both hazards


Yeah. I would choose it if could too. But it's not possible. 



Well that is your believe then because I don't think either of these have to happen lol


I'm telling you. Either weapons get constantly nerfed or classes that are good with ALL weapons get nerfed. 



The destroyer is already balanced hes moves slow he has no damage reduction for his high shields and he can't dodge with the devastator mode on he is already balanced

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LiarasShield wrote...

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Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.




I choose option c avoid both hazards


Yeah. I would choose it if could too. But it's not possible. 



Well that is your believe then because I don't think either of these have to happen lol


I'm telling you. Either weapons get constantly nerfed or classes that are good with ALL weapons get nerfed. 



The destroyer is already balanced hes moves slow he has no damage reduction for his high shields and he can't dodge with the devastator mode on he is already balanced


You can tell yourself that as many times as you want. It's gonna get nerfed. Piranha is gonna get nerfed because of GI and Destroyer. And so on. 

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Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.




I choose option c avoid both hazards


Yeah. I would choose it if could too. But it's not possible. 



Well that is your believe then because I don't think either of these have to happen lol


I'm telling you. Either weapons get constantly nerfed or classes that are good with ALL weapons get nerfed. 



The destroyer is already balanced hes moves slow he has no damage reduction for his high shields and he can't dodge with the devastator mode on he is already balanced


You can tell yourself that as many times as you want. It's gonna get nerfed. Piranha is gonna get nerfed because of GI and Destroyer. And so on. 



I'm not telling myself anything I use damn class I should know lol and the pirhana like the the other shotgun that came before is good at close range and sucks at long range so no neither ones need nerfs

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the missle launcher on the Destroyer needs to be better

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the missle launcher on the Destroyer needs to be better


Finally the man with reason to save the day +10 to griffindor lol

Modifié par LiarasShield, 28 juillet 2012 - 08:37 .


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LiarasShield wrote...

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LiarasShield wrote...

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LiarasShield wrote...

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LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.




I choose option c avoid both hazards


Yeah. I would choose it if could too. But it's not possible. 



Well that is your believe then because I don't think either of these have to happen lol


I'm telling you. Either weapons get constantly nerfed or classes that are good with ALL weapons get nerfed. 



The destroyer is already balanced hes moves slow he has no damage reduction for his high shields and he can't dodge with the devastator mode on he is already balanced


You can tell yourself that as many times as you want. It's gonna get nerfed. Piranha is gonna get nerfed because of GI and Destroyer. And so on. 



I'm not telling myself anything I use damn class I should know lol and the pirhana like the the other shotgun that came before is good at close range and sucks at long range so no neither ones need nerfs


Repeating this not gonna help. I know it's gonna get nerfed. Maybe not this week, but it's gonna get nerfed. 

The cycle of nerf cannot be broken. 

I'll be bumpin this topic after it.

Modifié par Air Quotes, 28 juillet 2012 - 08:39 .


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Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.




I choose option c avoid both hazards


Yeah. I would choose it if could too. But it's not possible. 



Well that is your believe then because I don't think either of these have to happen lol


I'm telling you. Either weapons get constantly nerfed or classes that are good with ALL weapons get nerfed. 



The destroyer is already balanced hes moves slow he has no damage reduction for his high shields and he can't dodge with the devastator mode on he is already balanced


You can tell yourself that as many times as you want. It's gonna get nerfed. Piranha is gonna get nerfed because of GI and Destroyer. And so on. 



I'm not telling myself anything I use damn class I should know lol and the pirhana like the the other shotgun that came before is good at close range and sucks at long range so no neither ones need nerfs


Repeating this not gonna help. I know it's gonna get nerfed. maybe not this week, but it's gonna get nerfed. 

I'll be bumpin this topic after it.



Their is no legiment reasons for nerfs the pirhana is only good short range like the reegar and the destroyer is already balanced you wanna know why these two things might get nerfed cause your over compaining about it

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No disrespect, this thread is stupid. Devastator is in no way overpowered. It is not the only class where a whole skill tree gets skipped by most people. GI do tons of work and although I never play with an infiltrator, I have no complaints when they dominate a game. If I don't like a class or weapon then I simply don't play them. No big deal there are tons of classes in this game so no need to cry about ones you feel are easy to play with. Play other classes/weapon combos.

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I pose a 2 destroyer and 2 GI gold match for the OP to play and if able record and post. Use any weapon, but no equipment or gear and it can be done on any map other than glacier, white, giant, dagger, and be constantly moving, so no camping. Now before everyone says this is ridiculous, I believe that in order to ask for balancing and other changes to the game, you need to be sure that what you want changed is truly op without equipment otherwise you are stating that balances need to be made to classes which are simply made op by using the highest level equipment.:D

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No disrespect, this thread is stupid. Devastator is in no way overpowered. It is not the only class where a whole skill tree gets skipped by most people. GI do tons of work and although I never play with an infiltrator, I have no complaints when they dominate a game. If I don't like a class or weapon then I simply don't play them. No big deal there are tons of classes in this game so no need to cry about ones you feel are easy to play with. Play other classes/weapon combos.


I do that. And I don't care if I get outscored by a GI or Destroyer or any other class. 

But others do. And get em and their weapons nerfed. 

We are not willing to compromise. So we lose in both fronts. 

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Destroyer is IMO one of the most balanced classes in the game.
Yes shocking ain't it.
His utility is pretty much decided by what gun he takes.
A shuriken devastator is a BAAAAD idea, but a cerberus Devastator is a good idea.
Now why am I being cpt. obvious?
Because my point is that you can still use WHATEVER GUN YOU WANT.
Why would you nerf the devastator so that he could only use one set of guns? Same for the GI.
Using the same type of gun all the time would make the class boring to play because only one type of gun would be useful to the class.
Rework your idea so it doesn't nerf the actual fun of the class and the option to use any gun a player wants.
Otherwise I wouldn't support your idea.
/Trying to be a polite Krogan.

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And the reason I didn't read anything is because both classes are fine.
Lay off them.

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LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Choice is simple. Either we "tweak" a couple of OP classes to not be too OP with weapons or we get constant weapon nerfs. And later class nerfs.

Choose your poison.




I choose option c avoid both hazards


Yeah. I would choose it if could too. But it's not possible. 



Well that is your believe then because I don't think either of these have to happen lol


I'm telling you. Either weapons get constantly nerfed or classes that are good with ALL weapons get nerfed. 



The destroyer is already balanced hes moves slow he has no damage reduction for his high shields and he can't dodge with the devastator mode on he is already balanced


You can tell yourself that as many times as you want. It's gonna get nerfed. Piranha is gonna get nerfed because of GI and Destroyer. And so on. 



I'm not telling myself anything I use damn class I should know lol and the pirhana like the the other shotgun that came before is good at close range and sucks at long range so no neither ones need nerfs


Besides, Destroyer's only viable way of eliminating enemies is virtually by applying one hard-hitting:devil: solution - bullets.