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#51
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Abraham_uk wrote...

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Till now:
Judo is too lame... I don't want to watch this sport again!
Soccer is almost good and amusing, like Volleyball.
Gymnastics doesn't disappoint me, like ever.

Some people are surrounded by couch potatos it seems! When they see athletes they think they're in heaven! lol


Or the butter face kingdom :lol:. I love meat on the bone . Don`t get me wrong. Volleyball just have great ass shot :P.


Vollyball. For those who love a bit of flesh.
Gymnastics for those who....    Never mind.


Beurk gymnastic .. It`s mostly underaged chinese girl . They all pretend to be sixteen ..

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THey look like 8 years old lol.

Modifié par Suprez30, 30 juillet 2012 - 09:32 .


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Yeah, a huge portion of peopel in women's gymnastics are in their teens. So whoever said they like watching that...

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Yeah, a huge portion of peopel in women's gymnastics are in their teens. So whoever said they like watching that...



I like acrobatics. So anything that involves people flying in mid air doing a double arabian, is my cup of tea.

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Am I the only person in the world who liked the London Opening Ceremony?

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 30 juillet 2012 - 10:05 .


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After Beijing every country's going to be judged based on them for a long time. London attempted to cram all of England's history into a 10 minute display. Which is doable, but after the industrial revolution it was borderline embarassing. I love Bowie quite a bit, but surely England's got something more substantial to use to represent their existence in the modern era. The unabashed truth is there are few countries that hat history and culture like China does. Just 2000 guys using traditional war drums was more significant of Chinese culture than the queen walking down the hall with Daniel Craig. A lot of London's presentation was flat and only highlighted the fact that a lot of the country's ancient culture is gone and never to be found again.

Just rewatch the 08 opening.[/quote] It highlights five thousand years of history. That's why it was so awe inspiring.

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[quote]android654 wrote...

After Beijing every country's going to be judged based on them for a long time. London attempted to cram all of England's history into a 10 minute display. Which is doable, but after the industrial revolution it was borderline embarassing. I love Bowie quite a bit, but surely England's got something more substantial to use to represent their existence in the modern era. The unabashed truth is there are few countries that hat history and culture like China does. Just 2000 guys using traditional war drums was more significant of Chinese culture than the queen walking down the hall with Daniel Craig. A lot of London's presentation was flat and only highlighted the fact that a lot of the country's ancient culture is gone and never to be found again.

Just rewatch the 08 opening.[/quote] It highlights five thousand years of history. That's why it was so awe inspiring.[/quote]


I watched both. Beijing was 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times better than London.

But I still liked London too. I'll stand up and say I liked it.

Did I over do it on the hyperbole?


The games have been pretty good so far. Some amazing athletes I've seen.
I'm so glad that Iran made it to the party. I thought the whole logo resembling Zion would mean they wouldn't be coming.

Modifié par Abraham_uk, 30 juillet 2012 - 10:29 .


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Then there was Athens in 04[/quote]

When you try and compare, the history of a country's existence through art is a lot more telling than someone texting about the 1960's. The sad truth is England doesn't have as much history as a lot of other countries do.

Modifié par android654, 30 juillet 2012 - 10:38 .


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Am I the only person in the world who liked the London Opening Ceremony?


I liked it. Not as shiny or awe inspiring as others but I prefered Danny Boyle went his own way insted of just trying to top anything that came before. One of the better torch lightings next to Sydney.

I am watching the poor Angola womens basketball team playing the U.S. Its badbut the Angola coach said his girls are proud to be the first team to make it to the Olympics and they got away with a few big upsets to get there.

Always some drama going on at the olympics.

"Sports cliches are easy to come by, but nail-biting does not begin to sum up the drama at the Olympics women's epee.
During a semi-final match, South Korea's Shin A-lam lodged an appeal against a controversial decision by referees.
She and her opponent, Britta Heidemann of Germany, had played three times for the winning point, each time with just one second left on the clock. This itself left many spectators wondering: for just how long can you string out one second?
It was during the third "second" that Heidemann scored the winning point. The South Korean coach started an appeal process that lasted an hour, apparently arguing that the win was scored out of time. All the while, Shin refused to leave the piste as by doing so she would accept defeat.
Referees eventually called it in favor of the German.
The crowd, however, overwhelmingly showed support for Shin and many gave her a standing ovation as she left the arena. Shin returned just minutes later for the bronze-medal match but after an early lead fell to defeat. Each time she scored, though, she received much applause and some foot-stamping. The crowd gave her yet another standing ovation as she bowed out.
Previously during her hour-long appeal she had sobbed uncontrollably before the 8,000-strong auditorium."

http://www.newsday.c...nsult-1.3869499

Sounds like a real shame.

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It`s just that us Westerner are really young .. So Great Britain look really old .

2010 Vancouver


What my Americans neighbor though of it?


beijing though has a budget of like 80 billions? London something like 50 billions. and vancouver 6 billions :D

Modifié par Suprez30, 30 juillet 2012 - 11:03 .


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That wasn't their problem at all. What made Beijing and Athens better was because they were older. England does not have thousands of years of history like Greece and China does. They don;t have enough culture to draw upon. Which is why we got to see Mercury and Bowie on a screen rather than displays of historical culture.

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They don;t have enough culture to draw upon.

Ok... what am I reading.

You could be forgiven for thinking British history started 100 years ago given the imbecilic pop culture saturation of the opening ceremony, but TBH you could have a good 18 hours of such 'ceremony' and still not run out of British history to make striking imagery from (like many countries tbh).

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Gotholhorakh wrote...

They don;t have enough culture to draw upon.

Ok... what am I reading.

You could be forgiven for thinking British history started 100 years ago given the imbecilic pop culture saturation of the opening ceremony, but TBH you could have a good 18 hours of such 'ceremony' and still not run out of British history to make striking imagery from (like many countries tbh).



Your lack of comprehension is forgiven. The majority of English history begins around the 5th and 6th century. At that time it was just nomadic tribes and real society didn't kick in till about the 900's. Last I checked that's a lot less than China's beginning around 3000 b.c. and Greece's beginning around 2000 b.c.

Several centuries is not a lot of culture when compared to nations that have existed as societies fell. Like it or not, but England has more in common with the new world than with the old one.

Edit: The fact of the matter is, the Romans came and destoryed practically everything that existed before they took over. There's no way to recover it, so anything that happened before the 5th century is pretty much erased from history. The rest of Europe however, managed to maintain their history through the ages, and they have several thousands of years more than England has. By comparison, it has little culture compared to Italy, Greece, Russia, etc.

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Is it really necessary to turn this into a history discussion? It's a thread about sports, for crying out loud.

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android654 wrote...

That wasn't their problem at all. What made Beijing and Athens better was because they were older. England does not have thousands of years of history like Greece and China does. They don;t have enough culture to draw upon. Which is why we got to see Mercury and Bowie on a screen rather than displays of historical culture.


...I see... well, I'm pretty sure we do have a lot of culture to draw upon, but it was the choice of the organisers to make it more relevant to the modern audience - to show not just what we were known for in the past, but also the present day.

We may not have epic ancient structures like those in Greece and other countries, but our history is long and turbulent, with many diverse cultures contributing to our development. At least, that's what we're taught in school. There's so much depth and progression that leads into Britain becoming the largest empire in the known world at one point. That's why I want our anthem to be 'Land of Hope and Glory' rather than 'God Save *Insert Monarch Gender Here*'.

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android654 wrote...

That wasn't their problem at all. What made Beijing and Athens better was because they were older. England does not have thousands of years of history like Greece and China does. They don;t have enough culture to draw upon. Which is why we got to see Mercury and Bowie on a screen rather than displays of historical culture.


...I see... well, I'm pretty sure we do have a lot of culture to draw upon, but it was the choice of the organisers to make it more relevant to the modern audience - to show not just what we were known for in the past, but also the present day.

We may not have epic ancient structures like those in Greece and other countries, but our history is long and turbulent, with many diverse cultures contributing to our development. At least, that's what we're taught in school. There's so much depth and progression that leads into Britain becoming the largest empire in the known world at one point. That's why I want our anthem to be 'Land of Hope and Glory' rather than 'God Save *Insert Monarch Gender Here*'.


I think they perhaps stayed away from the empire on purpose. It's not like with Alexander The Great, where so much time has passed that his conquers are things that are only studied. Perhaps they though the mention of empire was best left unsaid.

You do have a point. It's mostly the organizers fault for selecting what they thought was important to the culture of the UK. The Industrial Revolution up to the lighting of the rings were fine, and set a theme. However, Mary Poppins and a giant Voldemort followed by Queen's "I want to break free," Doesn't match up to Greece saying, "hey everybody, this is how we started democracy and the modern day notion of civil society!" It's just a let down by comparison.

Atkinson on the piano was worth a chuckle though.

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android654 wrote...

Fireblader70 wrote...

android654 wrote...

That wasn't their problem at all. What made Beijing and Athens better was because they were older. England does not have thousands of years of history like Greece and China does. They don;t have enough culture to draw upon. Which is why we got to see Mercury and Bowie on a screen rather than displays of historical culture.


...I see... well, I'm pretty sure we do have a lot of culture to draw upon, but it was the choice of the organisers to make it more relevant to the modern audience - to show not just what we were known for in the past, but also the present day.

We may not have epic ancient structures like those in Greece and other countries, but our history is long and turbulent, with many diverse cultures contributing to our development. At least, that's what we're taught in school. There's so much depth and progression that leads into Britain becoming the largest empire in the known world at one point. That's why I want our anthem to be 'Land of Hope and Glory' rather than 'God Save *Insert Monarch Gender Here*'.


I think they perhaps stayed away from the empire on purpose. It's not like with Alexander The Great, where so much time has passed that his conquers are things that are only studied. Perhaps they though the mention of empire was best left unsaid.

You do have a point. It's mostly the organizers fault for selecting what they thought was important to the culture of the UK. The Industrial Revolution up to the lighting of the rings were fine, and set a theme. However, Mary Poppins and a giant Voldemort followed by Queen's "I want to break free," Doesn't match up to Greece saying, "hey everybody, this is how we started democracy and the modern day notion of civil society!" It's just a let down by comparison.

Atkinson on the piano was worth a chuckle though.


Yes, if the new 'Assassin's Creed 3' has taught me one thing, it's that mentioning the empire does not always bring a healthy discussion!

Well, for what it was, I enjoyed it. It might not have shown how varied our history is (and how much of it is just a mix and match between various other cultures), but I enjoyed the spectacle of it nonetheless. The Queen's acting debut was great.

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I didn't mean anything negative by it. But the unfortunate truth is you don't become the most powerful nation on the planet by handing out hugs. It's done in a pretty bloody fashion. Always has been, always will be.

I just wanted to see something about Boudicca or William Wallace. You know, anything historical.

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Luzl. They could've done a reenactment of William Wallace's execution - they could've dragged some guy in on a horse and drawn and quartered him right in the middle of the stadium. Would've made a killer opening, don'tcha think? :devil:

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Oh, I'm not a fan of what the empire did. Not one bit. However, I admire the fact that it existed, much like I admire the Roman Empire. It's just interesting, really.

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Can't find any video of the opening ceremony - apparently, all videos of it are being struck down for copyright infringement. Lame.

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It'll probably stay that way until the IOC puts it up on their websites.

This is the best snippet they have that shows what happened[/quote]

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On the topic of Britain not having "enough history":

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But, seriously. I don't think that was the case. The problem was the direction. It was too concentrated on the past, a bit grim, and confusing for those of us who aren't from Britain. If I have to get someone to dissect the references being made in the program to appreciate the brilliance of it, then something is wrong. I also felt like they were trying too hard to fill every single part of the stadium... which isn't necessary at all. Sometimes, simplicity works. When you have a piece that blends augmented reality, video, music, dancing, and a love story on top of it all... I honestly don't even know where to look. It was a jumbled mess.

It's almost like they weren't exactly sure what their identity is in the modern era. Beijing's OC, on the other hand, was optimistic and inspiring as it celebrated the rise of China. I don't know why, but it felt more... apt in respect to the scope of the Olympic games. However, China does place a lot of importance in portraying itself as a country to be reckoned with... and the budget they spent to show this image was ridiculously high compared to London.

I mean no disrespect for those of you who are Brits, but that's just how I feel about the direction the head of the OC took. 

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Just watching the team equestrian, New Zealand has won its first medel its a bronze :) :)

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Dear Bioware Social Netowork

I am sorry that I obliterated this promicing thread with talk about the opening ceremony.

There is something now sport related I would like to talk about.

A number of British athletes (who were tipped to win gold medals) have complained about too much pressure being thrusted upon them.

Is this just some lame execuse for failure, or does this much pressure really have a negative impact on performance?
Can the pressure of the crowds and the media also have a positive impact on sporting performances?

This is not so much about Team GB but of crowd pressure and it's impact on sport in general.

I hope I have saved this thread with these questions. (We can start a separate thread about olympic opening ceremonies).

Sincerely

Abraham

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Abraham_uk wrote...

Dear Bioware Social Netowork

I am sorry that I obliterated this promicing thread with talk about the opening ceremony.

There is something now sport related I would like to talk about.

A number of British athletes (who were tipped to win gold medals) have complained about too much pressure being thrusted upon them.

Is this just some lame execuse for failure, or does this much pressure really have a negative impact on performance?
Can the pressure of the crowds and the media also have a positive impact on sporting performances?

This is not so much about Team GB but of crowd pressure and it's impact on sport in general.

I hope I have saved this thread with these questions. (We can start a separate thread about olympic opening ceremonies).

Sincerely

Abraham



It's a lame excuse for failure. You don't see Chinese or American athletes complaining over 'too much pressure' yet they're drowning in gold at the moment. I remember some example in one of my psychology classes in college saying home players get a bigger advantage over others, not sure if that has a point to anything though. 

Britain has had that stupid slogan of "It's not about winning it's about taking part in the event!" hung over it's schools and sports for a long time now. I think that's played some part of it; too many athletes complacent with taking part not enough focusing on winning. And the media in Britain has given them nothing but positive feedback so nothing there can be really giving them much pressure.