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[Skirata129]

I'm currently replaying Mass Effect 2 and in one of the conversations with Thane, he says he will be competely healthy for another 8 to 12 months before his condition begins to deteriorate. Later, in Mass Effect 3 he says that he is already well beyond the estimated date when he should have died, despite ME3 taking place a mere 6 months following ME2.

Did someone on the Dev team forget how to count?

[WarGriffin]

Becasue Arrival takes place 6 months after the Suicide mission and shepard is arrested afterwards

Granted that means all of ME2's content has to happen before the suicide mission sicne shepard tells Cerberus to **** off at the end of the suicide mission.

... Yes Shepard and the Me2 crew did literally nothing for 6 months -all that collector data... go to the citadel present the evidence.



Granted Thane had a lung transplant... and wanted to live if you got him loyal.




The Real answer

ME3 is suppose to be in a vaccum... as in you don't need Me1 and Me2 cause ME3 is for all the ME newbs to jump in!

Modifié par WarGriffin, 28 juillet 2012 - 05:51 .

[Taboo]

Or it just got worse. Sometimes that happens.

But the most likely answer is that they dropped the ball. And judging from statements from Patrick Weekes, this is most likely the case.

[xsdob]

Or maybe he was assumed to die way earlier and beat it back in ME2?

Also, fighting the collectors probably put a lot more strain on his lungs than normal, made his condition a whole lot worse.

[Skirata129]

xsdob wrote...

Or maybe he was assumed to die way earlier and beat it back in ME2?

Also, fighting the collectors probably put a lot more strain on his lungs than normal, made his condition a whole lot worse.

but exercise is considered a valid form of therapy for his sort of disease, and trust me, fighting is exercise.
If anything he should be healthier than before.

[Arken]

He probably just got worse. The reason why Thane said that is probably because there might have been a chance Bioware was toying with the idea of him being a squadmate in ME3. Who knows? Bioware was probably considering letting most of our ME2 squad be able to rejoin. Though that doesn't matter now.

It's realistic the believe Thane's condition simply got worse faster than expected.

[Bill Casey]

He really shouldn't have opted for those "underwater aerobics" classes...

[WindfishDude]

My only complaint, is why is Thane still wearing his swag leather jacket in the hospital? Don't they have Drell gowns?

Also, why does his son wear the excact same outfit as he did that day they met in ME2?

I guess only Jack is allowed to change her outfit,

Modifié par WindfishDude, 28 juillet 2012 - 05:52 .

[Bill Casey]

The laws of fashion only apply to people agreed to be bound by it...

[WarGriffin]

WindfishDude wrote...

My only complaint, is why is Thane still wearing his swag leather jacket in the hospital? Don't they have Drell gowns?

Also, why does his son wear the excact same outfit as he did that day they met in ME2?

I guess only Jack is allowed to change her outfit,

shhhh

that's asking why Jacob and miranda still have thier Cerberus get ups

[xsdob]

Bill Casey wrote...

He really shouldn't have opted for those "underwater aerobics" classes...

LoL. they even tell him to not wear a shirt and to keep his chest exposed to the air to stop moisture from building up. Probably shoudln't have dressed him like this than.



Whoops.

[Ticonderoga117]

xsdob wrote...
*snip*

But the shades!
So cool!

[David7204]

That isn't a plot hole. Thane saw multiple doctors. He only told Shepard the most dire diagnosis to make a wry joke.

Even if that wasn't the case, it wouldn't be a plot hole because it has nothing to do with the plot. Maybe you should actually learn what phrases like 'plot hole' mean instead of dropping them like an idiot whenever you encounter something you don't like in a story.

Modifié par David7204, 28 juillet 2012 - 06:21 .

[Han Shot First]

WindfishDude wrote...


I guess only Jack is allowed to change her outfit,

It doesn't make sense to give a character who is in the game for about 1 minute and 32 seconds a full makeover. That leads me to believe that at some point Jack was supposed to be a squadmate, but the idea was scrapped after her redesign.

[David7204]

Or maybe they just wanted to demonstrate that Jack had developed as a character in Shepard's absence and changed her appearance to reflect that...?

[Bill Casey]

Or maybe the alliance has an issue with half naked teachers...


I think complaining about LimitedWardrobe is extremely nitpicky...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 28 juillet 2012 - 06:45 .

[Conniving_Eagle]

Skirata129 wrote...

I'm currently replaying Mass Effect 2 and in one of the conversations with Thane, he says he will be competely healthy for another 8 to 12 months before his condition begins to deteriorate. Later, in Mass Effect 3 he says that he is already well beyond the estimated date when he should have died, despite ME3 taking place a mere 6 months following ME2.

Did someone on the Dev team forget how to count?

Yeah Thane (my favorite character in ME2) really got the short end of the stick in ME3. His death was really contrived, as well. He definitely could have been a squad member, atleast for the beginning of the game.

[AresKeith]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Skirata129 wrote...

I'm currently replaying Mass Effect 2 and in one of the conversations with Thane, he says he will be competely healthy for another 8 to 12 months before his condition begins to deteriorate. Later, in Mass Effect 3 he says that he is already well beyond the estimated date when he should have died, despite ME3 taking place a mere 6 months following ME2.

Did someone on the Dev team forget how to count?

Yeah Thane (my favorite character in ME2) really got the short end of the stick in ME3. His death was really contrived, as well. He definitely could have been a squad member, atleast for the beginning of the game.

there was that thing about a cure for Thane in ME2

[mupp3tz]

Timeline kind of makes sense, to be honest (he just got stabbed, condition got worse, he's not in a proper environment) ... but, realistically, I'm willing to bet it was more a case of "What can we do to make the game more dramatic?"

Answer: Make some squad deaths unavoidable.

... and so we end up with Thane, Legion, and Mordin making dramatic sacrifices.

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 28 juillet 2012 - 08:14 .

[Eterna]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Timeline kind of makes sense, to be honest (he just got stabbed, condition got worse, he's not in a proper environment) ... but, realistically, I'm willing to bet it was more a case of "What can we do to make the game more dramatic?"

Answer: Make some squad deaths unavoidable.

... and so we end up with Thane, Legion, and Mordin making dramatic sacrifices.

Mordin can live.

[Skirata129]

only under very specific circumstances though. The fact is, even if you did everything right, kept wrex and eve alive, saved the data, all of it, the Krogans as a whole are just as likely to go on the warpath as ever. the only reason I consider curing it is to give the Reapers a headache when I choose refuse.

[Those Protheans]

Skirata129 wrote...

only under very specific circumstances though. The fact is, even if you did everything right, kept wrex and eve alive, saved the data, all of it, the Krogans as a whole are just as likely to go on the warpath as ever. the only reason I consider curing it is to give the Reapers a headache when I choose refuse.

It's not really that specific and it is easy to do.

[mupp3tz]

Thanks Eterna5! Completely forgot that.

Regardless, I still suspect that the decision to end Thane and Legion's story arcs were made going into ME3 (for emotional effect) and not something that was set in stone during ME2... which could explain the iffy time issue.

Still. The period between the two games IS 6 months and, as mentioned before, he was just stabbed and could have deteriorated in health within the time period prior. Not to mention that drells also need a very specific type of environment to feel normal/comfortable.

[LanceSolous13]

WarGriffin wrote...

Becasue Arrival takes place 6 months after the Suicide mission and shepard is arrested afterwards

Granted that means all of ME2's content has to happen before the suicide mission sicne shepard tells Cerberus to **** off at the end of the suicide mission.

... Yes Shepard and the Me2 crew did literally nothing for 6 months -all that collector data... go to the citadel present the evidence.

Granted Thane had a lung transplant... and wanted to live if you got him loyal.

The Real answer

ME3 is suppose to be in a vaccum... as in you don't need Me1 and Me2 cause ME3 is for all the ME newbs to jump in!

That's not correct at all. Mass Effect 2 takes up about 6 months at greatest (If I remember correctly from the time line) and Arrival certainly doesn't take place that long after the Suicide Mission.

Also, Thane didn't have a Lung Transplant. He was a considered for one as a cure to Kepral's Syndrome but he turned it down as it was before Shepard reuinted him with Kolyat and befriended him (or became his lover).

Thane was butchered in Mass Effect 3.

[LanceSolous13]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Thanks Eterna5! Completely forgot that.

Regardless, I still suspect that the decision to end Thane and Legion's story arcs were made going into ME3 (for emotional effect) and not something that was set in stone during ME2... which could explain the iffy time issue.

Still. The period between the two games IS 6 months and, as mentioned before, he was just stabbed and could have deteriorated in health within the time period prior. Not to mention that drells also need a very specific type of environment to feel normal/comfortable.

Thane shouldn't have been stabbed in the first place. Thane shouldn't have run at a Melee Opponent while weilding a pistol. Thane shouldn't have been accepting of his death as his ME2 Character Development says otherwise.

What makes Mordin's Death powerful for me, besides the utter epicness of his end, was also the lingering fact that "I could have prevented it". It would have been horrible if I did, but it was still possible to do so.

Thane and Legion will die no matter what happens. And it pisses me off.