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What convinced me that video games are art.


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sporeian

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I watched this and was touched by the truely realistic emotions and deep meaning of it. 

 

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Only watched the first minute, and so far this is creepy as hell.

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Conniving_Eagle

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There is good art and there is bad art. Game developers are part of a business first, artists second. If you want to create 'crappy' art that disappoints your fanbase, there is no justification. Several 'artists' and writers have re-done their creations because the consumer was unsatisfied. If Bioware want to be regarded as 'artists' they'll do the same.

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wow

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This is why we don't need to create AI. Spectacular video, but seriously, no AI. Only trouble in that direction.

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This isn't a video game...it's just a software demonstration...

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David7204 wrote...

This isn't a video game...it's just a software demonstration...


but its made to show what video games can achieve. Sure, its just a video, but that was created with what video games can acheive.

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The first time I figured out video games were art was when one of them emotionally moved me.

That's the big test, if something can sway and manipulate your emotions, it is art. That can be a picture, sculpture, music, film, book, game, anything really.

If it can invoke emotions, generally positive, than it is art in my book.

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Video games fit the definition of art.

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No, it's showing what animation can achieve. Plenty of video games have had character conflicts as dramatic as this. But better animation isn't going to be a 'revolution' in the way stories are told in video games.

Modifié par David7204, 28 juillet 2012 - 07:07 .


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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

There is good art and there is bad art.


ENOUGH FOR ME ...

OP: This was good art...

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I loved the singing.

I want one!

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David7204 wrote...

No, it's showing what animation can achieve. Plenty of video games have had character conflicts as dramatic as this. But better animation isn't going to be a 'revolution' in the way stories are told in video games.


Animation is a HUGE part of video games. Like paintings or sculptures or movies, the clearest and most realistic expressions can make all the difference. 

I understand where your coming from. Art is a very troublesome term, ME3's ending can vouch for that. However, Video games are reaching that point in which art can be more clearly defined and valued. Don't get me wrong, I  totally consider a game like Pac-man or Donkey Kong art, but just like most art, time moves along and newer forms come forth. 

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Oops, should have finished the vid before posting.

I thought they were going to kill her, glad it didn't happen.

I loved it.

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It's not Art, they held back (weak story, shallow dialogue, tali's face, etc.) and Art does not hold back.

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yukon fire wrote...

It's not Art, they held back (weak story, shallow dialogue, tali's face, etc.) and Art does not hold back.


I would agree and disagree that Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 are art.

The Trilogy as a whole is emotional and does leave an impact. You care about the character's and their problems and learn to love them. You do end up with memorible moments and the series asks deep questions.

However, no part, mainly the ending, isn't an individual peice of art. Very rarely are parts of things alone are art. I can take any part of a classic novel or movie and say that its art, but I like the term a piece of art as a whole; and that is what Mass Effect is.

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sporeian wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

It's not Art, they held back (weak story, shallow dialogue, tali's face, etc.) and Art does not hold back.


I would agree and disagree that Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 are art.

The Trilogy as a whole is emotional and does leave an impact. You care about the character's and their problems and learn to love them. You do end up with memorible moments and the series asks deep questions.

However, no part, mainly the ending, isn't an individual peice of art. Very rarely are parts of things alone are art. I can take any part of a classic novel or movie and say that its art, but I like the term a piece of art as a whole; and that is what Mass Effect is.


Actually I would submit that only one part is art, the visuals (probably why their call digital artists). The direction, the editing, the level design, the writing and marketing all set new lows for the series and BioWare itself (and maybe even EA). 

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You're sick

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Video games can be art.

Now for that video, that was... interesting, to say the least. But to me, until a robot actually tries to be alive in real life, I can't see them as being alive.

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yukon fire wrote...

It's not Art, they held back (weak story, shallow dialogue, tali's face, etc.) and Art does not hold back.


I thought you were talking about the vid til you mentioned Tali.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

You're sick


just because I hang out on pony threads on 4chan, doesn't make me sick!

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That's one old vid man. It is touching, but I'd rather no say my opinion on video games being art.

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Genetic Destiny wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

It's not Art, they held back (weak story, shallow dialogue, tali's face, etc.) and Art does not hold back.


I thought you were talking about the vid til you mentioned Tali.


A extremely poor photoshop of a free image (specifically chosen solely chosen because it was free) on the internet made it into a major Million dollar video game franchise and I am expected to believe that was the best they could do?

And if that wasn't their best effort put forward than its not art.  

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yukon fire wrote...

Genetic Destiny wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

It's not Art, they held back (weak story, shallow dialogue, tali's face, etc.) and Art does not hold back.


I thought you were talking about the vid til you mentioned Tali.


A extremely poor photoshop of a free image (specifically chosen solely chosen because it was free) on the internet made it into a major Million dollar video game franchise and I am expected to believe that was the best they could do?

And if that wasn't their best effort put forward than its not art.  


Agree, spending ten minutes on photoshop with a stock photo you got out of a walmart catalogue doesn't make you an artist.

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sporeian wrote...

I watched this and was touched by the truely realistic emotions and deep meaning of it. 

 


REALLY interesting video. It actually made me look at the Synthesis ending a bit more deeply.