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[Sidney]

qeezer wrote...
Rio is the only map that gives me no enjoyment (tried silver and gold).  Its nothing to do with the objectives, just how the level plays  (I always seem to end up running around like a maniac to the point of motion sickness).  I've given this map the same chance to grow on me as all the others, but in recent days I feel so strongly about it I just quit it every time it comes up in a PUG, in spite of the long loading screen back to the menu I have to sit through.  I'd only consider it if friends really want to play it (not an issue so far).

Here's how I play Rio and don't run like a maniac - the key is not to hold the middle.

If you have friends or mic'ced up people get them all to the area opposite the LZ. The map is insanely easy at that point other than objective waves where you have to run but that is true no matter what. You get long sight linesto the control room. It might take some time for the baddies to come to you but it is sooo easy.

If not, I take a position behind a cargo container that has the ammo box. Let all the other people try and hold the central spot like they want to do. You've got two still easy to control spawn points around you and if your PUG's are smart they'll figure out you are keeping their backs clean. That end of the map is crazy easy to control because even if you get in trouble you can duck around the corner almost anywhere to hide, reload/recharge and fight on. I've danced around down there with multiple primes until help arrived several times.

Now, it helps that I playa Geth (hunter vision is golden in that maze) or a Fury (annihilation field at close quarters ).

[schwarzweiss]

FBW and Rio

[E71]

Not sure if I've already posted.

London, followed by Condor.

[NuclearTech76]

Condor has no redeeming qualities. Dark, gloomy, crappy ammo boxes.

I actually like Goddess but that one hack is difficult to put it mildly.

[NathanW18]

Condor and London are my most hated. My main reasoning is that they're so open. Condor is also really glitchy, which adds to my dislike of that map.

If Bioware are making more maps, I'd love to see some more smaller one's. All the new maps are really big. Some that are the size of Glacier and White would be nice.

Modifié par NathanW18, 17 août 2012 - 01:35 .

[Vikingo]

Most hated is Condor.

[Catastrophy]

Jos Hendriks wrote...

One of the common comments I see is that certain hack objectives (a lot of them set up by yours truly) are hard/unfair/difficult to hold down. Now, I'm admittedly a sucker for a bit of punishment on the player not necessarily being a bad thing. I feel that if a level has one or two (out of a good few more) objectives that could come up that is more difficult to complete, it adds a bit to the tension of what objective could be coming up, and succeeding feels a bit sweeter.
With that in mind, I'd like to ask:

Do you feel objectives that are harder than others/require more effort are detrimental to your experience overall?

Hey, Jos,
I'm OK with Reactor hack, hacking in the open on Giant, I can survive in London hacks but what I really, really do not find funny or challenging anymore is the atrium hack on Godess. That's a bit more punishment than neccessary.
I also don't feel to have achieved something afterwards, I am just stressed or annoyed. I'm probably better off distracting things away from the hack circle.

[qeezer]

Sidney wrote...

Here's how I play Rio and don't run like a maniac - the key is not to hold the middle.

If you have friends or mic'ced up people get them all to the area opposite the LZ. The map is insanely easy at that point other than objective waves where you have to run but that is true no matter what.

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If not, I take a position behind a cargo container that has the ammo box. Let all the other people try and hold the central spot like they want to do. You've got two still easy to control spawn points around you and if your PUG's are smart they'll figure out you are keeping their backs clean.

Yeah good points and thanks for taking the time to post that, but I have tried that myself, with and without team support.  I've found the you still get drawn after mobs, objectives and player rescues that are then far, faaaaar away.  Also I've had it where spawns are forced at the opposite end and you see very little action.  If you have the leadership / persuasion skills to regularly get PUGs to overcome that, then I salute you, cos I certainly can't.

In my experience of PUGs (on any map) most attempts to play a bit defensively (i.e. not just rush around in an insane killing frensy chasing every beeping thing) are just seen by many players as "yay, more cake for me",  and on this map they'll apparently happily deal with the high cost in consumables and frequent death rates that follows their pursuit of 'xp' points they can't actually use for anything.

After too many frustrating, wiped or high-spend games, I just don't bother and would rather play another map.

[INVADERONE]

JumboWheat01 wrote...

So I was looking at my poll earlier (link in my sig.  No, not that one, that's to my crappy manifest.  The one next to it.)  Unsurprisingly, Reactor was one of the most hated maps.  Tied with it, though, was White.  Guess other people, like me, are sick of that map.

By the way, if you wish, vote in it.  I'm curious to see what everyone's thoughts are about the maps.

I disliked Reactor but after getting into Gold and then Platinum...its one of the best maps in the game. It has so much cover and so many places to kite enemies to their demise. In all honesty that map provides the best tactical advantages to your team.

[Psycho Mantis I]

Condor is my most hated map and it made me hate the Geth even more when i fight them in this map.... I can handle this map better and overlook its huge flaws if the ammo boxes didn't take forever to replenish.... I have played Rio countless times and i never had any glitches like the game crashing so i have no problem with that map .

[Gashie]

Condor because of the ammo boxes.
Rio because it is the only thing in the entire game that has actually crashed/hung/froze my game with no other remedy than alt+f4.

[UKStory135]

To me. I want a map to have flow, and plenty of grenades. I was suprised that Vancouver only has one grenade per box.

[INVADERONE]

Gashie wrote...

Condor because of the ammo boxes.
Rio because it is the only thing in the entire game that has actually crashed/hung/froze my game with no other remedy than alt+f4.

I second this vote.

[VelvetStraitjacket]

Reactor and Condor.

[Momiji.mii]

Thank you Jos for listening to feedback and providing some insight about how the levels are designed. Hydra and Jade are two of my favourite maps, thank you for those!

My least favourite maps are Condor and Reactor, for one reason only: They're too dark! I don't have the greatest of eyesight, and it gets tough to play when the game environment is too dark. That actually goes for London as well, but I enjoy the layout on that map so much that it more or less makes up for the lack of light.

Anyways, perhaps you and the rest of the team could consider making more maps with good lightning? Not all of us who play are youngsters with perfect eyesight, after all.

[Ice Cold J]

Reactor, London, and Condor.

[VII Revenant]

I like Reactor the least.

[Tom1029]

Whichever map is on Tuchanka, I always get stuck on the 'cover' and can't find the grenade box.

[Catastrophy]

Mr. Sandman wrote...

Condor is my most hated map and it made me hate the Geth even more when i fight them in this map.... I can handle this map better and overlook its huge flaws if the ammo boxes didn't take forever to replenish.... I have played Rio countless times and i never had any glitches like the game crashing so i have no problem with that map .

I can top that:
End up on Condor, against Geth with a short ranged character (Piranha much?)

[Pedactor]

Why I dislike:

Condor: Extraction area is absolutely brutal for hacks at times. Being shot by enemies across the entire level when my guns can't do that same many times. Too much open space.

London: I don't hate this level. But I think the center hack near the staircase is ridiculous. It's an indefensible position that has almost always yielded revive-fests.

Reactor: Again, center hack location is ridiculous. Indefensible. Same for hack up ladder near spawn. Not asking for a fort here, but getting picked off from across the board on wave 10 hacks due to little secret holes put in stinks.

[Beta Commando]

I hate Rio, it is dull map that gets enemies spawned on both side you your cover and a really sucky 5 minute hacking place.

[Arppis]

VII Revenant wrote...

I like Reactor the least.

Some good would come out by just reskinning the map. I know it doesn't fix the map-problems, but it would atleast be more pleasant to look at.

[Phoenix_Risen73]

Condor and Reactor (only on Gold+). I'm sick of White, but it's not a bad map, just getting old.