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Is Lord Harriman stupid or what?


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He is a target of assassin, his bodyguards all have been defeated by his assassin ally (Hawke), then he show up ridicule his assassins?

It is funny you know...if i am a target of assassin, then i saw my guards all dead, i will run away and never show up. <_<

But Lord Harriman proudly reveal himself, then mock his enemy. That is the most stupid thing i ever see :mellow:

it is like, you see your gurads all lying on the ground, then someone helping the one who want to kill you, then you happily go out and say "wahahaha you guys could do better than this!"

I found out that my murder knife gladly flew to his head each time with no question.

Modifié par Nizaris1, 28 juillet 2012 - 07:24 .


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Considering who his wife was, i would be a death seeker too.:innocent:

Modifié par The Hierophant, 28 juillet 2012 - 07:21 .


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even if i choose to ask "why so many people want to kill you?"

He say "...you sound Ferelden, i am the one who suggest to sent aid to Denerim during the blight...bla bla bla...you want to kill me for that?"

You expect me to believe that?

And still, it is stupid...he is standing there in front of the one who killed his bodyguards, and he standing there proudly...if Hawke is not Ferelden then what? (Hawke still can kill him even after asking)

And before he die, he said "my son will find you wahaha!"

Who cares you know? lols If he can be assassinated that easily, what to expect about his son?

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Lol, i guess he lost it when he realized that there's no where to run at that point. In my first playthrough i spared him. Later when i found out he, and his wife hired the mercs that killed Sebastian's immediate family, i would usually kill him in subsequent playthroughs.(meta-gaming ftw)

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Well, he can jump into the water....Hawke and no one know he's there until he show up. Or he can just remain silent until everyone gone

And funnily, if it happen at the same time Lord Harrowmont quest, soon after the cut scene, another assassins attacking Lord Harrowmont heir not far away, it seems to be it is a favorite spot for assassins lols (it happen in one of my playthrough)

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Nizaris1 wrote...

even if i choose to ask "why so many people want to kill you?"

He say "...you sound Ferelden, i am the one who suggest to sent aid to Denerim during the blight...bla bla bla...you want to kill me for that?"

You expect me to believe that?

And still, it is stupid...he is standing there in front of the one who killed his bodyguards, and he standing there proudly...if Hawke is not Ferelden then what? (Hawke still can kill him even after asking)

And before he die, he said "my son will find you wahaha!"

Who cares you know? lols If he can be assassinated that easily, what to expect about his son?


Personally, I can believe him regarding helping Ferelden. If you look at all the anti-Ferelden attitudes, from the leaflets on the streets at night to people refusing to hire any Ferelden refugee, or make them work for less than a Kirkwaller would make (or the Bone Pit which only hires Fereldens because they work for less) and the fact that Amaranthine, if saved in Awakening, becomes a serious trading threat to Kirkwall on the Waking Sea so people in high places want to hire pirates to sink all ships bearing Amaranthine colors.....

Yeah, I can believe that the nobility in Kirkwall would hate aiding Ferelden.

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With a wife like his, I wouldn't blame him for being a tad crazy.

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I think the whole point of that was for him to make a deal, and be seen having courage. Having intelligence, however....

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Personally, I can believe him regarding helping Ferelden. If you look at all the anti-Ferelden attitudes, from the leaflets on the streets at night to people refusing to hire any Ferelden refugee, or make them work for less than a Kirkwaller would make (or the Bone Pit which only hires Fereldens because they work for less) and the fact that Amaranthine, if saved in Awakening, becomes a serious trading threat to Kirkwall on the Waking Sea so people in high places want to hire pirates to sink all ships bearing Amaranthine colors.....

Yeah, I can believe that the nobility in Kirkwall would hate aiding Ferelden.


Everybody can say the same to Ferelden assassins lols, as long as the assassins are from Ferelden the victim can say "oh, i help your people during the Blight" and hope the assassins become soft heart hearing that

by the way...Hawke working for Meeran for a year, who know how many nobility he/she have killed for a year?

Modifié par Nizaris1, 29 juillet 2012 - 02:47 .


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Nizaris1 wrote...

dragonfight288 wrote...
Personally, I can believe him regarding helping Ferelden. If you look at all the anti-Ferelden attitudes, from the leaflets on the streets at night to people refusing to hire any Ferelden refugee, or make them work for less than a Kirkwaller would make (or the Bone Pit which only hires Fereldens because they work for less) and the fact that Amaranthine, if saved in Awakening, becomes a serious trading threat to Kirkwall on the Waking Sea so people in high places want to hire pirates to sink all ships bearing Amaranthine colors.....

Yeah, I can believe that the nobility in Kirkwall would hate aiding Ferelden.


Everybody can say the same to Ferelden assassins lols, as long as the assassins are from Ferelden the victim can say "oh, i help your people during the Blight" and hope the assassins become soft heart hearing that

by the way...Hawke working for Meeran for a year, who know how many nobility he/she have killed for a year?


Oh, don't get me wrong. You can easily doubt him. I simply think that based on evidence outside of that particular quest, it merely adds credibility to his statements on why somoeone would want him dead.

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He's not stupid, well ok he is, he's just a perfectionist. "If you are going to assassinate me you're going to do it right dammit."

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He's not stupid, well ok he is, he's just a perfectionist. "If you are going to assassinate me you're going to do it right dammit."


lols, "i am right here, kill me now!"

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I generally let him go because his assassins are so pathetic. I'm not gonna make up for Meeran's poor recruiting. I remember when being a Red Iron used to mean something. Damn kids.

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I want to let him go, but i just can't, the temptation can't resist, because he's right there in the open, no defense, he's just giving himself up to become the victim of my precioooouuuussss..... knife....

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Nizaris1 wrote...

even if i choose to ask "why so many people want to kill you?"

He say "...you sound Ferelden, i am the one who suggest to sent aid to Denerim during the blight...bla bla bla...you want to kill me for that?"

You expect me to believe that?

And still, it is stupid...he is standing there in front of the one who killed his bodyguards, and he standing there proudly...if Hawke is not Ferelden then what? (Hawke still can kill him even after asking)

And before he die, he said "my son will find you wahaha!"

Who cares you know? lols If he can be assassinated that easily, what to expect about his son?

That's exactly the point.  If anything, my Hawke never questions him because he didn't care or thinks he could just be lying to save his skin.

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Why do I always kill Lord Harimann?
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Obviously the family might not appreciate it, but even if he told the truth about helping Fereldens, the desire demon in his basement was turning him into a pervert who might have molested his daughter. I see it as a mercy killing, since by the time of Act 2, he's gone anyway.

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Wow i cant believe people havn't worked this out yet. Lord Harriman is NOT Lady Harriman's husband he's her FATHER. It even states that in the game. Rexton is actually supposed to be her husband and Flora's father but somehow bioware messed up his face morph (probs from EA making them rush). Lord Harriman is long dead by the start of act 2 even if you spare him.

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I usually just work for Athenril. They may be thieves and smugglers, but they don't murder for hire and don't deal in flesh (both Gamlen and Athenril will say this). A little extortion or thuggery maybe, but not out and out murder.

After a couple times working for the Red Irons, (mostly I love the Cousland Castle music playing in the background while you talk to him), now I take the job, let the noble pay me off then go work for Athenril. More money, slightly more XP and you get to ...*Spoiler below*



Confront and kill Meeran outside Gamlen's house later in Act 1.

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If you don't kill Harriman for Meeran, then he dies later anyway. Sparing him only delays the inevitable, though I like to do so just to ****** Meeran off later, and the guy supposedly aided Fereldans. I do like the line during Sebastian's quest when Hawke asks about Lord Harriman being killed and they ask Hawke how they know about that.

I like to first take the job from Athenril, take the bribe from Cavril, then kill Friedrich for Meeran. Afterwards, Athenril attacks for turning down her offer, and after telling Meeran that Harriman was spared, he attacks too. This way, Hawke gets a nice 7 soverigns in the beginning and gets the xp from killing both of them for nice xp.

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Varric approves when I spare Harimann. I don't know if that has only to do with hearing him say he aided Ferelden during the Blight, or if Varric had better insight than I did. This is without having Sebastian or any other DLC.

Modifié par lyriumaddict104, 16 novembre 2012 - 05:45 .