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[D24O]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Chobot.

Look.

It's ****ing absurd.

You f***ing srs Dolan

[AresKeith]

Taboo-XX wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Difficult to make someone important if she might be dead.

Tali?

Garrus?

???

Legion?

Mordin?

[Icesong]

Taboo-XX wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Difficult to make someone important if she might be dead.

Tali?

Garrus?

???

Shepard.

[Taboo]

D24O wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Chobot.

Look.

It's ****ing absurd.

You f***ing srs Dolan

i srs Gooby

y u du dis Hdsn

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 02 août 2012 - 04:37 .

[D24O]

Taboo-XX wrote...

i srs Gooby

y u du dis Hdsn

Nd i kild spoderman 2. I cnt blv dis

[Taboo]

D24O wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

i srs Gooby

y u du dis Hdsn

Nd i kild spoderman 2. I cnt blv dis

no u kil bogs

u fld an nw we stck wth dis art

[ShepnTali]

Actually Kaiden is billed after Meer/Hale, followed by Chobot.

[Taboo]

ShepnTali wrote...

Actually Kaiden is billed after Meer/Hale, followed by Chobot.

That is so ****ed up.

[o Ventus]

ShepnTali wrote...

Actually Kaiden is billed after Meer/Hale, followed by Chobot.

You say that like it's any better.

[D24O]

Taboo-XX wrote...

no u kil bogs

u fld an nw we stck wth dis art

Kaaaay.

[ShepnTali]

o Ventus wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Actually Kaiden is billed after Meer/Hale, followed by Chobot.

You say that like it's any better.

Oh, it's messed up alright. Just wanted to be accurate. Technically, Meer and Hale share first billing, though.

[Taboo]

That REALLY rustles my jimmies.

In fact it may rustle the entirety of the jimmies tree.

The entire ****ing tree.

[TookYoCookies]

HBC Dresden wrote...



And yes, many ME2 dialogue options only had 2 choices. The very first dialogue choice in ME2 is actually a two option one. So that criticism levied at ME3 makes no sense when ME2 shared that "problem" and no one complained.

First, thats an excuse, and not an explanation. Making a mistake and then pointing the finger at someone else making the same mistake doesnt correct it. Second, yes, people did complain that ME2 had limited instances of para/neutral/renegade choices simulatneously, but both ME1 and 2 had more than 3 and that is a bad  thing. More choices needed to be added and their variation improved, exponentionally more work is kind of the idea. They arent doing this for free, we are paying them to play it. Typically when you have a product, and that product needs to be improved, its going to require more work than you previously put into it. Thats just kind of how things work, in life/all occupations, including game design. Attempting to use that as an excuse would be childish.

[Tritium315]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Actually Kaiden is billed after Meer/Hale, followed by Chobot.

You say that like it's any better.

Isn't it? I don't know about you, but I think Kaidan is a more important character than Allers (she should be much, much further down though).

I think he meant that Kaiden should be pretty far down too.

[What a Succulent Ass]

I think O Ventus' point is that it doesn't change the fact that Chobot has an inexplicably high billing.

[yukon fire]

I saw Chobot on that "Sci Vs. Fi" documentary on ME1, she could hardly put words together.

[AlanC9]

AresKeith wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Difficult to make someone important if she might be dead.

Tali?

Garrus?
???

Legion?

Mordin?

my bad. I didn't include o Ventus' post where he said that Legion and Mordin weren't imporatnt. Depends on where you draw that line.

[o Ventus]

Random Jerkface wrote...

I think O Ventus' point is that it doesn't change the fact that Chobot has an inexplicably high billing.

Yes.

[AlanC9]

Random Jerkface wrote...

I think O Ventus' point is that it doesn't change the fact that Chobot has an inexplicably high billing.

Well, that is kinda funny. is it significant? I don't remember if there's a SAG rule about credits order for actors. 

[o Ventus]

AlanC9 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Difficult to make someone important if she might be dead.

Tali?

Garrus?
???

Legion?

Mordin?

my bad. I didn't include o Ventus' post where he said that Legion and Mordin weren't imporatnt. Depends on where you draw that line.

The fact that both of their story arcs can be concluded without them being present denies them being pivotal. The same applies to all of the ME2 cast.

[AresKeith]

AlanC9 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Difficult to make someone important if she might be dead.

Tali?

Garrus?
???

Legion?

Mordin?

my bad. I didn't include o Ventus' post where he said that Legion and Mordin weren't imporatnt. Depends on where you draw that line.

they both played Important parts in the game but they can both die in ME2

[Taboo]

AlanC9 wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

I think O Ventus' point is that it doesn't change the fact that Chobot has an inexplicably high billing.

Well, that is kinda funny. is it significant? I don't remember if there's a SAG rule about credits order for actors. 

Yes.

The top personnel are listed first.

If it didn't matter they would list them alphabetically.

[AresKeith]

AlanC9 wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

I think O Ventus' point is that it doesn't change the fact that Chobot has an inexplicably high billing.

Well, that is kinda funny. is it significant? I don't remember if there's a SAG rule about credits order for actors. 

but its rather BS that someone from IGN who has very few lines in ME3 gets paid more than the majority of the VA cast, and I wouldn't be surprised if thats why ME3 got a 9.5 by IGN, which makes sense

[CronoDragoon]

TookYoCookies wrote...

HBC Dresden wrote...



And yes, many ME2 dialogue options only had 2 choices. The very first dialogue choice in ME2 is actually a two option one. So that criticism levied at ME3 makes no sense when ME2 shared that "problem" and no one complained.

First, thats an excuse, and not an explanation. Making a mistake and then pointing the finger at someone else making the same mistake doesnt correct it. Second, yes, people did complain that ME2 had limited instances of para/neutral/renegade choices simulatneously, but both ME1 and 2 had more than 3 and that is a bad  thing. More choices needed to be added and their variation improved, exponentionally more work is kind of the idea. They arent doing this for free, we are paying them to play it. Typically when you have a product, and that product needs to be improved, its going to require more work than you previously put into it. Thats just kind of how things work, in life/all occupations, including game design. Attempting to use that as an excuse would be childish.

I think it's just the fact that most criticisms leveled against ME3 are usually referencing something in ME1 or 2 for comparison. These days, I almost automatically assume that when people say something bad about ME3, they are comparing it to 1 and 2. It's also the case that people have not been forced to look at ME1 and 2 as critically as ME3 because although complaining is always prevalent, it was nothing in the past compared to ME3. For example, the amount of different dialogue options in ME1 that amounted to Shepard saying the same thing. I don't know about you, but I find that personally annoying, moreso than auto-dialogue. 

I also don't find it reasonable to suggest that "expontentially" more work should go into a game when development costs are continuously rising while game prices stay the same. While I agree that time and potentially money was wasted on things like Chobot, I don't think it's fair to say that MP sapped resources from SP. Most likely, EA would have never allocated those resources to ME3 in the first place unless there was MP involved.