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#26
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Sometimes I spent 1 million buying PSP and don't get a single one ultra rare weapon. It's really frustrating.
But, of course, I still prefer ammo level iv instead a character card... Especially because I don't care about promotion.

But it's not a reason to stop playing. Some of the best weapons, like Piranha, Widow, Claymore, Reegar Carbine, GPS, Carnifex, etc., are rare and much more easy to unlock. You don't need Paladin, Saber, Black Widow, Harrier or Typhon to play and beat platinum.

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Ares Caesar wrote...

So what do you expect/want? You still have a chance at ultra-rares, and you should still be unlocking gear... in fact since the last DLC I've unlocked TONS more gear than I have in the previous month or so when they were first introduced in Rebellion DLC.

They're never going to give you 100% chance at ultra-rares, and likely never going to increase gear drops much more either (since its essentially permanent boosts).

I much prefer the ammo powers over the previous character card spam, and they've even thrown the character XP back into the mix for those who wanted that.

The store system makes them too much money, and its never likely going to change.


All fine and good, but it doesn't change that there's something terribly wrong with the drop rates of the new gear so that once you have all the Rebellion gear you're left with nothing but ammo in 99%+ of your rare cards.

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Once you have rare weapons and characters maxed, you pretty much only get level IV ammo mods. Occasional ultra-rare, sure, but I've gotten more URs than rare gear since the DLC dropped. Something's got to be wrong with the rare gear drop rate, and we KNOW that SPs couldn't contain uncommon gear until recently.

I'm tired of getting packs that contain +5 missiles, 3 level 1-3 consumables, and one level 4 consumable, but I also know that I'm not realistically going to get anything better with any frequency. Still slowly getting gear mods...

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I know it's a video game and it's supposed to be played for fun, but I just can't help but feel like it's turning into work having to play with no reward.

I usually play a game or two, enough to buy a pack, and then depending on whether I get anything or not I continue playing. It's nice when I unlock something and want to try it out etc., but more often than not I get nothing so I get frustrated and stop playing.

I went from playing 4-5 hours per day to maybe 30 minutes.

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Ares Caesar wrote...

If this account is tied to your manifest, you're not getting ammo 4 powers as is, so I dont know why you're complaining. For you, the "process of elimination" still exists... as you max out your uncommons and rares you'll slowly eliminate them all from the pool, leaving only gear and ultra-rares as something that cant be achieved through "typical progression"

Again people seem to forget that their "free DLC" concept is based off the store microtransactions, and *IF* there wasnt something to almost force people to pay for, then they couldnt afford to offer free DLC.

Its pretty easy to max out everything but ultra-rares/gear... so thats all they have to get people to invest money towards.

I'm not saying I like it, but I can at least understand it, and I'm surprised so many people have such a hard time grasping it.


Yeah, I am, ever since I maxed my Krogan I've been getting them off and on, and with only one gold maxed, it's extremely irritating. No, it doesn't, because I've had a **** of a time getting anything upgraded due to the intense amount of garbage, that I get one common or uncommon weapon upgraded every four or five Spectre packs and the rest is garbage is horrible.

Uh, no, what you seem to forget is their 300 million in profits from the game, stop sputtering bull****, this isn't some small indie company that can't afford to recycle a few maps and do model swaps with Kai Leng and Phantoms.

No, it isn't, if it was then the millions upon millions upon MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS that I have spent would award me more than a handful of maxed items.

You are, and you're defending it, HARD.

Modifié par Revrant, 29 juillet 2012 - 03:50 .


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Revrant wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...
Better then character cards. Posted Image


Worse.

Dude Revrant, you don't even have any rares maxed out so you don't know how bad the pointless character cards were before the change. You probably haven't even received many level 4 consumables.

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Ares Caesar wrote...
If this account is tied to your manifest, you're not getting ammo 4 powers as is, so I dont know why you're complaining. For you, the "process of elimination" still exists... as you max out your uncommons and rares you'll slowly eliminate them all from the pool, leaving only gear and ultra-rares as something that cant be achieved through "typical progression"



Except that for some of us it's not working the way its supposed to.  Prior to the Earth DLC, I maxed out my characters and weapons leaving me with only rare gear left unfilled.  When I spent a million credits roughly to max out my gear, I ended up getting on rare gear every 2nd rare slot roughly until they were completely full (with the other rare slots consisting of Level IV consumables) after which I got 100% level IV consumables.  

 After I maxed out the Earth DLC characters and weapons in the first week, I've spent another 1.5 million credits since then and ONLY gotten level IV ammo and consumables in EVERY SINGLE RARE SLOT.  I've been getting ZERO GEAR despite needing over a dozen ranks in the rare ones and that's only including the ones not greyed out on the manifest.  In addition, I've haven't gotten any of the uncommon ones in that time as well despite needing them too.  It seems like when you max out characters and weapons, your chance of any gear drops to zero.  I'm not the only one having this problem if you check out the mod sticky thread.  Something is glitched with the gear as its drastically different from the gear drop rates prior to the earth DLC.

Modifié par ForTuchanka, 29 juillet 2012 - 03:49 .


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Pete Zahut wrote...

Revrant wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...
Better then character cards. Posted Image


Worse.

Dude Revrant, you don't even have any rares maxed out so you don't know how bad the pointless character cards were before the change. You probably haven't even received many level 4 consumables.


Yup. Repeat character cards were the ultimate BW troll.

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Revrant wrote...

OblivionDawn wrote...

Revrant wrote...

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Still better than character cards.


Garbage is not better than garbage.


But the ammo powers are better than character cards.

You can at least use the ammo powers. The Character cards were UTTERLY useless if you had the character maxed out.


So they're worse.


Nope.

The ammo cards actively aid you in beating missions and therefore getting credits. The character cards do nothing. They are worse.

Also:

Pete Zahut wrote...

Dude
Revrant, you don't even have any rares maxed out so you don't know how bad the pointless character cards were before the change. You probably haven't even received many level 4 consumables.


This.

You have no real concept of how bad repeat character cards really are after you have everything else maxed.

Modifié par OblivionDawn, 29 juillet 2012 - 03:51 .


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ThelLastTruePatriot wrote...

I just want a harrier personally and I'll have what I want, at least barring getting upgrades for my ultra rares, my javelin is at level 6...as if I care about that.


This... very much this... been trying to get Harrier for a month :P no go

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I know all about the old system, I wasnt maxed out then on characters like I am now. I'd rather get the gold gear that I'm missing or my chance at ultra rares. Not get 2 ammo's at the same time.


I've been getting a lot of those recently. Were you getting them after the event started? I have a feeling they changed something in the store.

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Better than character cards, yes. But when all you really want is the new gear, which is supposed to be uncommon/rare but instead drops as regularly as ultra rares, it's frustrating.

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Pete Zahut wrote...

Revrant wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...
Better then character cards. Posted Image


Worse.

Dude Revrant, you don't even have any rares maxed out so you don't know how bad the pointless character cards were before the change. You probably haven't even received many level 4 consumables.


Yeah, I do, learn to read.

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Pete Zahut wrote...

Revrant wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...
Better then character cards. Posted Image


Worse.

Dude Revrant, you don't even have any rares maxed out so you don't know how bad the pointless character cards were before the change. You probably haven't even received many level 4 consumables.


Just checked his manifest. He doesn't seem to have any.

Yeah, level IV mods are better than character cards. I mean, to be honest, I did like it when I'd just promoted. I find myself hoarding level IV mods for no real reason, as if at some point in the future, I'll need them all, but not for any individual gold run (or platinum, when I brave the desolate land of PUGs hoping to farm for credits).

But yeah, character cards actually offered literally no benefit if your characters were leveled. Level IV ammo mods can actually be useful.

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The gear has always been a bit tough to drop. At least when the packs don't drop gear as it seemingly should, you won't get two useless character cards and get trolled out of 99k credits.

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I think Bioware should make IV only drop once EVERY other thing is maxed out - Gear, Characters, and Weapons.

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Pete Zahut wrote...

Yes they are much better than character cards. OP do you expect the packs to drop URs every time?


 don't think anyone wants that, rather it's just the idea that the most expensive equipment packs in the game spit out ammo like it's candy. I'd rather the level 4 ammo be moved as a chance to occur in a JEP pack, it would make more sense.

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Funny thing is...I've never received lvl IV ammo...

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Zero132132 wrote...

Pete Zahut wrote...

Revrant wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...
Better then character cards. Posted Image


Worse.

Dude Revrant, you don't even have any rares maxed out so you don't know how bad the pointless character cards were before the change. You probably haven't even received many level 4 consumables.


Just checked his manifest. He doesn't seem to have any.

Yeah, level IV mods are better than character cards. I mean, to be honest, I did like it when I'd just promoted. I find myself hoarding level IV mods for no real reason, as if at some point in the future, I'll need them all, but not for any individual gold run (or platinum, when I brave the desolate land of PUGs hoping to farm for credits).

But yeah, character cards actually offered literally no benefit if your characters were leveled. Level IV ammo mods can actually be useful.


Another person who can't read.

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Revrant wrote...
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Everyone with a brain that isn't a total tool wants a fair shot at unlocking gear, not garbage ammo drops, and no, we don't, the whole process is supposed to be a process of elimination, but BioWare cheats the system, before it was character cards, those are still there in common, gunking up the works, but then they elevated ammo to uncommon to gunk that up too, so instead of fixing it with "you don't get things you already have unlocked" they gunked up the system with garbage ammo.

Here's how this is supposed to work, minus the grinding nasty sludge BioWare designed into the system to **** us sideways, you max something out, it is removed from the pool and you don't get it anymore, leading to a slightly increased chance at more valuable things.

This is how it works in almost every other game, it's a fool proof system that they have ruined with garbage sludge gunking up the system, this is why these topics WON'T go away and haven't since launch, it's trash and the aforementioned change made it even more trash than before, it's a **** tier way of doing it and damaging to their reputation as well.


Amen...

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Maxed out all my rare weapons, still trying to max out my rare characters, and... gear. And for that matter, my uncommon weapons.

To think I was excited to get Lv. IV stuff. Then I realized that I rarely ever use equipment. Go figure.

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Revrant wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

Pete Zahut wrote...

Revrant wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...
Better then character cards. Posted Image


Worse.

Dude Revrant, you don't even have any rares maxed out so you don't know how bad the pointless character cards were before the change. You probably haven't even received many level 4 consumables.


Just checked his manifest. He doesn't seem to have any.

Yeah, level IV mods are better than character cards. I mean, to be honest, I did like it when I'd just promoted. I find myself hoarding level IV mods for no real reason, as if at some point in the future, I'll need them all, but not for any individual gold run (or platinum, when I brave the desolate land of PUGs hoping to farm for credits).

But yeah, character cards actually offered literally no benefit if your characters were leveled. Level IV ammo mods can actually be useful.


Another person who can't read.


Reading really isn't necessary. You don't have any level IV ammo mods. Your manifest:

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I wasn't responding to whatever bull**** claims you made, just to empirical evidence. You have no level IV ammo. What you claim is irrelevant.

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Zero132132 wrote...

Revrant wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

Pete Zahut wrote...

Revrant wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...
Better then character cards. Posted Image


Worse.

Dude Revrant, you don't even have any rares maxed out so you don't know how bad the pointless character cards were before the change. You probably haven't even received many level 4 consumables.


Just checked his manifest. He doesn't seem to have any.

Yeah, level IV mods are better than character cards. I mean, to be honest, I did like it when I'd just promoted. I find myself hoarding level IV mods for no real reason, as if at some point in the future, I'll need them all, but not for any individual gold run (or platinum, when I brave the desolate land of PUGs hoping to farm for credits).

But yeah, character cards actually offered literally no benefit if your characters were leveled. Level IV ammo mods can actually be useful.


Another person who can't read.


Reading really isn't necessary. You don't have any level IV ammo mods. Your manifest:

Posted Image

I wasn't responding to whatever bull**** claims you made, just to empirical evidence. You have no level IV ammo. What you claim is irrelevant.


He did say he discards them whenever he gets the chance. Still, though, that is a tad strange.

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Pete Zahut wrote...

Revrant wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...
Better then character cards. Posted Image


Worse.

Dude Revrant, you don't even have any rares maxed out so you don't know how bad the pointless character cards were before the change. You probably haven't even received many level 4 consumables.


Yep, this dude has no idea what it was like for those of us that had maxed characters/rares, and were getting nothing but character card spam (which did nothing if you didnt really care to promote)... ammo powers at least add to your in-game effectiveness.

ForTuchanka wrote...

Except that for some of us it's not
working the way its supposed to.  Prior to the Earth DLC, I maxed out my
characters and weapons leaving me with only rare gear left unfilled. 
When I spent a million credits roughly to max out my gear, I ended up
getting on rare gear every 2nd rare slot roughly until they were
completely full (with the other rare slots consisting of Level
IV consumables) after which I got 100% level IV consumables.  

 After
I maxed out the Earth DLC characters and weapons in the first week,
I've spent another 1.5 million credits since then and ONLY gotten level
IV ammo and consumables in EVERY SINGLE RARE SLOT.  I've been getting
ZERO GEAR despite needing over a dozen ranks in the rare ones and that's
only including the ones not greyed out on the manifest.  In addition,
I've haven't gotten any of the uncommon ones in that time as well
despite needing them too.  It seems like when you max out characters and
weapons, your chance of any gear drops to zero.  I'm not the only one
having this problem if you check out the mod sticky thread.  Something
is glitched with the gear as its drastically different from the gear
drop rates prior to the earth DLC.


Thats strange, I seem to be getting the new gear about 1 in 5 premium spectre packs, which is WAY better than what I was getting before Earth DLC (about 1 in 10). At least your situation is one I can sympathize with, because that sounds like an actual bug/glitch.

If their is one thing I've learned after playing fairly regularly since launch... is that you cant play for ultra-rares in this game... if thats ALL you care about, you're going to get severely depressed fast, because the drop rate is low and unpredictable(dont always get the ultra-rare you were hoping for). Either have fun simply playing the game itself, or move onto something else.

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DullahansXMark wrote...

*snip textwall*

He did say he discards them whenever he gets the chance. Still, though, that is a tad strange.


Yeah, but look at his manifest again. Only maxed rare character is the Krogan Sentinel. Level IV ammo only unlocks when the pack tries to give you a character card for something you've maxed out, so he's actually very unlikely to get it at all.

I don't disagree that the store is broken, and that the way they have it set up is dumb, but his claim that this is actually WORSE than character cards that were genuinely useless (as in unusable in any way) even though they have function is something that annoys the crap out of me. It's just a stupid, stupid claim.

Modifié par Zero132132, 29 juillet 2012 - 04:13 .