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[mwags85]

Hey y'all, I haven't been on the forums in a while and also haven't touched ME3 since the Extended Cut came out.  It's been placed back in it's N7 Limited Edition casing, is sitting in my game closet, and who knows when it will be played again.  Wanted to check and see what the lastest news on Mass Effect 3 was and then came up with this topic.  Frankly, I've just lost all exitement for the series after the direction Bioware decided to go with the ending and explanation for the Reapers.  For me, replay value is gone.  If you've read my comments in other forum pages you know why I feel the endings just didn't fit with the story.  This topic isn't to bash the game or the ending (though I'm sure some of that may slip in and can't be helped), but to ask if anyone is just having trouble picking the game back up, again for obvious reasons.  I see Bioware has been doing a lot with multiplayer, not so much single player.  While MP was a decent addition, in my opinion they're currently focusing on the wrong aspect of the game.  Mass Effect is, first and foremost, a single player adventure; and until Bioware starts improving and expanding on the adventure, they've lost me as a consumer and my disc will remain out of the tray.  Bioware I hope you're listening.  Comments? Thoughts?

[crypticcat 2o2p]

Not playing the game is only punishing yourself, not Bioware.

That said, ME3 isn't half as bad as DiabloIII was. Now that was a game worthy of dying in a fire, it actually led me to cut off all ties I have with Blizzard. And to think that Jennifer Hale was voicing Leah... Hard to believe she's the de facto Femshep!

Just saying, dude. ME3 is a marvel of coding and creativity when you see it in a line of other great franchises gone south:

- Mass Effect 3
- Diablo III
- Saints Row 3
- Fallout New Vegas

Yeah, give me ME3... All the other franchises just make me feel dirty for having tried them.

[RampaXi]

Ive been keeping distance for the single player and kinda wishing whilst im doing that it gets more content, think ill be starting new playthru once im free from the army..

[Zaalbar]

I still like ME3 mostly for its secondary story's which for me is the best part of this series. The less said about the main narrative, Catalyst, Crucible, and big dumb robots the better.

[Aello89]

Same pretty much in my case. Though I did open my Collector edition and played through ME3 (it was entertaining enough) once I finished it I haven't had any kind of motivation to play it again, and believe me I've been an avid fan of Bioware since KOTOR and Neverwinter Nights. I guess that only proves (at least to me) how disenfranchised they've become with the direction they've taken since "so called sequels" of Mass Effect and Dragon Age: Origins. Just my opinion of course.

I believe Bioware is listening in one form or the other. Releasing EC (no matter the improvments - even though it made the ending fairly better then the original) was an undeniably good thing, since it shows that the company is addressing an issue. Hopefully with focusing back towards SP and addressing the still existing issues, Biware could turn a bad practice on its head by taking the lead here. Earning back a lot of gamer respect while doing so, since in my opinion fan loylaty and respect are priceless commodities that are hard to get.

Loving ME1, and ME2 despite it's broken plot, lack of proper continuity etc. it's sort of saddening to be aware that I lost any kind of, as you said, excitment for re-playing ME3. In my books, sadly to say, Mass effect 3 failed based on it's own merits (since my doubts towards Bioware appeared after the release of Dragon age 2). As another poster mentioned I agree that I am punishing myself with not playing it, but I can't easily go against my off-putting feelings when I want to re-play it.

So overall I agree with what you said OP (focusing on the wrong ascpets etc). The imporant lesson is that fans are being heard though- constructive criticism is always good even when directed towards the publishers/developers that you trust, or trusted to deliver a good game). But are they going to learn any valuable lessons from all the outcry is another question entirely. Bioware does have an opportunity to trun some of the issues into something gold ( for future IP's). At least that's what I hope, since I tend to believe that reasonable and rationally argumented fan blacklash is/and will play a bigger role in the future of gaming industry.

Modifié par Aello89, 29 juillet 2012 - 07:41 .

[FlamingBoy]

I am struggling to complete it a second time to actually get to the extended cut
the game brings up so much negative emotion

[MystEU]

Been working on my 3rd playthrough (starting from ME1 of course) and enjoying the finer moments of the game. As said above, the story arcs really make the game what it is and I've had a plan for my Shepard this time around that's making me look forward to certain choices as I go.

[devSin]

Same here. I haven't actually been doing much gaming at all, just Diablo III (but not for the last month—I'm waiting to start a new character until the balance shakes out a little more).

We'll see if Mike has anything to help with that, I suppose.

[BrookerT]

Nah, been on my 5th play through now, I would do more but ME1 is such a boring slog that I have to force myself to play it. Often I just replay ME3 sections because there so much fun, and then there is multilayer. Sorry your missing out on a good game.

[Massa FX]

Still playing ME games. I may be in the minority but I love the universe, the characters, the story, and the gameplay. Not liking the conclusion doesn't mean I hate everything else. Looking forward to sp dlc.

Yes, I too broke up with Bioware for a few months... but I've got over the disappointment and moved on.

It's very... freeing.

[Kilkia123]

BioWare pushed back its singleplayer DLC releases because of the Extended Cut. While I'm thinking that all the free multiplayer DLC is to keep players content for the moment, you can be sure that singleplayer DLC is on the way. There's already speculation (possibly confirmed) about an Omega DLC. BioWare hasn't forgotten about the singleplayer, or at least I'd think not. The game is great as is; more Mass Effect can't hurt at all.

[David7204]

Well aren't you a rebel.

[zsom]

Not at all. I'm on my 3rd playthorugh, and planning at least another one. However new SP content would be a very welcome addition at this point.

[JaegerBane]

mwags85 wrote...
 Comments? Thoughts?

Well, since you ask, my initial thought was why you felt you need to tell everyone you're not playing the game. So what?

[sushismygen]

Well, I did manage to actually finish the game after EC came out so that has to count for something.
It's still a long shot from the epic ending this game deserved but I guess it will do.
I'm sure I'll play it again sometime, just don't really feel like it right now.
If anything it makes me want to play ME1 again. Looking back now, it was the best one.

[Raizo]

FlamingBoy wrote...

I am struggling to complete it a second time to actually get to the extended cut
the game brings up so much negative emotion

I'm pretty much in the same boat.

I played and beat ME3 when it first came out was so disgusted by the game that I stopped playing it. Then the EC came out and rather than reboot an earlier save and watch the EC endings I decided to forgive ME3 for its transgressions, give it another go and begin a new game, I gave up on that almost 2 weeks ago, I just lost the will to play it after Sur'kesh.

[Nelatherion]

David7204 wrote...

Well aren't you a rebel.

[Dominator24]

Raizo wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

I am struggling to complete it a second time to actually get to the extended cut
the game brings up so much negative emotion

I'm pretty much in the same boat.

I played and beat ME3 when it first came out was so disgusted by the game that I stopped playing it. Then the EC came out and rather than reboot an earlier save and watch the EC endings I decided to forgive ME3 for its transgressions, give it another go and begin a new game, I gave up on that almost 2 weeks ago, I just lost the will to play it after Sur'kesh.

+1
I'm in the same boat

[crypticcat 2o2p]

Raizo wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

I am struggling to complete it a second time to actually get to the extended cut
the game brings up so much negative emotion

I'm pretty much in the same boat.

I played and beat ME3 when it first came out was so disgusted by the game that I stopped playing it. Then the EC came out and rather than reboot an earlier save and watch the EC endings I decided to forgive ME3 for its transgressions, give it another go and begin a new game, I gave up on that almost 2 weeks ago, I just lost the will to play it after Sur'kesh.

You know, that's what I don't really understand... I don't see ME3 as a game with a lame ending; I see ME3 as one big end-game. People keep saying that there is no closure, WTH, there's nothing but. In my game, Sheppie ties up all loose ends and to my utter joy she and Liara finally stop beating around the bush behaving like passing ships in the night and decide to go for it.

People say that they don't understand how TIM end up in the Citadel... really? It is even explained that he goes to the Citadel in the hopes of getting to the crucible trigger first so he can control the reapers!! "TIM comes out of nowhere and blah blah"- no he doesn't. TIM has all the data he needs, his experiments are done and he believes he holds the key to saving the Human-race. Even that's explained in the game, you don't even have to guess it.

There are insane moments in ME3... The mother of the Treshermaws, the lasergun and the reaper, the geth-server... The conversation with Eve (which almost changed my mind about the Genophage, almost.). I really wonder what ME3 people are playing because it must be vastly different from the ME3 I have. People who bought ME3 without having played the first two games might have a few valid points though, I agree. Having played the game with a fresh ME3-shep there are many things you don't really grasp unless you're willing to make heavy use of the codex if youtube isn't your thing, but with a total-shep ME3 is near flawless.

And harrassing that Salarian on Sur'Kesh? Priceless! 

[JoltDealer]

Again with this same complaint. Fans weren't happy with the ending. Bioware came up with the Extended Cut DLC as a way to address these problems without undermining artistic integrity, which many don't understand is a very big deal. There are two teams working on ME3, one for single player content and another for multiplayer content. Making the Extended Cut required that all work on single player DLC be halted and instead be focused on that. This didn't affect the multiplayer team and so, their DLC has been coming out accordingly. That is the most mature way I could address your concerns.

I agree, the ending hurt replay value at first. The Extended Cut fixed the ending as far as I'm concerned. It may not be perfect, but its far better than what we had before. It renewed my love for the game. The only reason I have problems replaying it is because I have problems essentially marching towards my death in ME3. I am so close to every Shepard that I make, I really feel like I am dying at the end.

[voteDC]

I can't summon the energy to play more than the twice I already have.

The ending isn't even an issue as I quite like the Extended Cut. I just can't see where this awesome game is that so many others seem to be playing.

With the exception of Tuchanka and Rannoch, the game is dull and uninspired shooting galleries.

Even the two good parts suffer from the obvious favouring of the combat over the story.

[fchopin]

Have not played the game since EC, waiting for the sp dlsc's before i do another play.

[mad825]

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

Not playing the game is only punishing yourself, not Bioware.

That said, ME3 isn't half as bad as DiabloIII was. Now that was a game worthy of dying in a fire, it actually led me to cut off all ties I have with Blizzard. And to think that Jennifer Hale was voicing Leah... Hard to believe she's the de facto Femshep!

Just saying, dude. ME3 is a marvel of coding and creativity when you see it in a line of other great franchises gone south:

- Fallout New Vegas

Yeah, give me ME3... All the other franchises just make me feel dirty for having tried them.

FONV wasn't bad. Besides, it's a spin-off creation from Obsidian so expect the status quo to be restored.

[crypticcat 2o2p]

mad825 wrote...

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

Not playing the game is only punishing yourself, not Bioware.

That said, ME3 isn't half as bad as DiabloIII was. Now that was a game worthy of dying in a fire, it actually led me to cut off all ties I have with Blizzard. And to think that Jennifer Hale was voicing Leah... Hard to believe she's the de facto Femshep!

Just saying, dude. ME3 is a marvel of coding and creativity when you see it in a line of other great franchises gone south:

- Fallout New Vegas

Yeah, give me ME3... All the other franchises just make me feel dirty for having tried them.

FONV wasn't bad. Besides, it's a spin-off creation from Obsidian so expect the status quo to be restored.

Matter of taste I guess. FONV was so bad Urquarth was forced to make a public apology and step aside for a Bethesda damage-control crew. It was Bethesda that pulled FONV out of the fire in the end, not Obsidian. For a game that isn't bad, that were pretty harsh steps.

I would have entered Kingdoms of Amalur too, but that isn't a franchise (yet). We can only hope it never becomes one.

I still prefer ME3 over the list I gave... I pains me to say I own all those games and have tried to see past their shortcomings. Only ME3 pulls it off, really. But much of that is due to my canon-shep, truth be told.