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[Toki]

I don't play single player because no matter what game, you can't continuously play the campaign over and over. It also lacks replay value, so three times is more than enough for me. I do, however, play allot of the multiplayer, as I've been aching for that Geth Engineer.

[Allen Spellwaver]

Just finished the trilogy playthrough.That was an amazing experience.

[mad825]

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

Matter of taste I guess. FONV was so bad Urquarth was forced to make a public apology and step aside for a Bethesda damage-control crew. It was Bethesda that pulled FONV out of the fire in the end, not Obsidian. For a game that isn't bad, that were pretty harsh steps.

They apologise for the bad QA, am I missing anything new? Beth and Obby are known sinners for buggy games and they will always be buggy. Nevertheless, it was obby that choose to go back to it's roots.

[breyant]

I'm not really playing it anymore, but that's not because I didn't enjoy it... more like I've finished my four main Shepards and I'm feeling satisfied. I'm sure I'll return and play through the whole trilogy eventually.

[Aurora313]

I play it until I get up to the final farewell for my LI in the EC. Then I quit the program, start again with a new class.

Admittedly, I was somewhat fine with the ending. I had my share of anger and rage but the entire game was the quote unquote 'ending' to the series.

Unless they wanna canonise an ending and pull a 'Halo 4' on it - Mass Effect has effectively come to a close for me. Shepard WAS Mass Effect to me, and mine have synthesized, survived/died or assumed control according to their personality types, and I am satisfied with the end of Mass Effect 3.

I have attempted to play single player again from the start of the trilogy, but it's quite difficult because I ultimately know which decision would ultimately serve me best in terms of War Assets. Maybe in a few months time, I'll start an ME!Trilogy Marathon, but I doubt I'd play through the last 20 or so minutes of ME3.

Though, unfortunately, in my eyes ME3 is a mass of missed opportunities; romances, fetch quests and the shafting of the VS for 50% of the game in particular really grind my gears.

[AlexMBrennan]

I agree, the ending hurt replay value at first. The Extended Cut fixed the ending as far as I'm concerned. It may not be perfect, but its far better than what we had before

That doesn't make sense. The ending is either still bad (in which case it would still hurt replay value), or not bad anymore. You can't have it both ways.

People say that they don't understand how TIM end up in the Citadel... really? It is even explained that he goes to the Citadel in the hopes of getting to the crucible trigger first so he can control the reapers!!

You have explained *why* TIM goes to the Citadel, not *how* he manages to get there despite it being on the move and/or in the middle of Reaper-occupied space.

WTH, there's nothing but. In my game, Sheppie ties up all loose ends and to my utter joy she and Liara finally stop beating around the bush behaving like passing ships in the night and decide to go for it.

That's not closure.

Replay the ending. You'll find that Godchild mentions the tech singularity - a threat vastly greater than the imminent destruction by the Reapers. What happens to that? Good luck finding out from the epilogue.

There are insane moments in ME3

True, assuming that you're using the OED definition of insane: "Characterized or caused by madness.". I fail to see how that's a good thing.

People who bought ME3 without having played the first two games might have a few valid points though, I agree

Most complaints are from people who have played ME1 and ME2 - that's because ME3 is a virtually a stand-alone game. The developers have said so - they made ME3, the *third* part in a *trilogy* the ideal place to start playing (which, by definition, is insane or "Characterized or caused by madness.").

And harrassing that Salarian on Sur'Kesh? Priceless!

You sure are distracted easily.

[looloolooigotsomeapples]

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

mad825 wrote...

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

Not playing the game is only punishing yourself, not Bioware.

That said, ME3 isn't half as bad as DiabloIII was. Now that was a game worthy of dying in a fire, it actually led me to cut off all ties I have with Blizzard. And to think that Jennifer Hale was voicing Leah... Hard to believe she's the de facto Femshep!

Just saying, dude. ME3 is a marvel of coding and creativity when you see it in a line of other great franchises gone south:

- Fallout New Vegas

Yeah, give me ME3... All the other franchises just make me feel dirty for having tried them.

FONV wasn't bad. Besides, it's a spin-off creation from Obsidian so expect the status quo to be restored.

Matter of taste I guess. FONV was so bad Urquarth was forced to make a public apology and step aside for a Bethesda damage-control crew. It was Bethesda that pulled FONV out of the fire in the end, not Obsidian. For a game that isn't bad, that were pretty harsh steps.

I would have entered Kingdoms of Amalur too, but that isn't a franchise (yet). We can only hope it never becomes one.

I still prefer ME3 over the list I gave... I pains me to say I own all those games and have tried to see past their shortcomings. Only ME3 pulls it off, really. But much of that is due to my canon-shep, truth be told.

The extent of Urquhart's apology was that he regretted it was as glitchy when it came out. Nothing about it was forced (it was in an interview, not really a "public apology") and how exactly did he ever step aside for damage control? It was Bethesda's game engine (so their inherited glitches), Bethesda's unreasonable deadline, and even Bethesda's QA. Given all of that, the game really wasn't that much more of a buggy mess than Fallout 3 was. Obsidian, not Bethesda, also developed every patch that made the game a lot more stable. Still not perfect, but you're being unrealisitic if you expect otherwise. You may not like the content or were victim to unreasonable bugs, but Obsidian made another game that was actually a Fallout game.  The aspects worth apologizing for were largely Bethesda's fault. 

Anyway, OT: I go back from time to time, to play some multiplayer and singleplayer. Only with singleplayer I find myself not wanting to play after a short amount of time because I really want some actual singleplayer DLC. The endings after the Extended Cut do not ruin the franchise for me at all. 

[crypticcat 2o2p]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

I agree, the ending hurt replay value at first. The Extended Cut fixed the ending as far as I'm concerned. It may not be perfect, but its far better than what we had before

That doesn't make sense. The ending is either still bad (in which case it would still hurt replay value), or not bad anymore. You can't have it both ways.

People say that they don't understand how TIM end up in the Citadel... really? It is even explained that he goes to the Citadel in the hopes of getting to the crucible trigger first so he can control the reapers!!

You have explained *why* TIM goes to the Citadel, not *how* he manages to get there despite it being on the move and/or in the middle of Reaper-occupied space.

WTH, there's nothing but. In my game, Sheppie ties up all loose ends and to my utter joy she and Liara finally stop beating around the bush behaving like passing ships in the night and decide to go for it.

That's not closure.

Replay the ending. You'll find that Godchild mentions the tech singularity - a threat vastly greater than the imminent destruction by the Reapers. What happens to that? Good luck finding out from the epilogue.

There are insane moments in ME3

True, assuming that you're using the OED definition of insane: "Characterized or caused by madness.". I fail to see how that's a good thing.

People who bought ME3 without having played the first two games might have a few valid points though, I agree

Most complaints are from people who have played ME1 and ME2 - that's because ME3 is a virtually a stand-alone game. The developers have said so - they made ME3, the *third* part in a *trilogy* the ideal place to start playing (which, by definition, is insane or "Characterized or caused by madness.").

And harrassing that Salarian on Sur'Kesh? Priceless!

You sure are distracted easily.

How TIM gets to the Citadel? I asume he took a Cerberus-shuttle and jumped a few Mass Relays.
According from the books, the trip from the HQ to the nearest MR is less than four hours, travel between MR's themselves is instantanious. The Widow MR is on top of the Citadel, in space-terms.
All in all, going from the Horse Head Nebula to the Widow System shouldn't have taken more than five hours, tops. TIM was on the move long before Sheppie crashes the party.

Whatever the Catalyst VI has to say is no consequence for me... Sheppie comes to do one thing, and it doesn't matter if she's Paragon, Renegade or chopped liver - to destroy the reapers. End of.

The rest of your post is not worth commenting on.

[Jeffonl1]

Perhaps its a compliment to ME & Bioware that fans are still very passionate about the game (either for or against). It's this passion that will lead to many replaying the series.
Or, if you want to be pessimistic, create fan burn-out? I hope not...

[mwags85]

Modifié par mwags85, 29 juillet 2012 - 03:55 .

[Heather Cline]

Nope, haven't touched the game since the EC. Same happened with the original ending. Couldn't pick it up after the first run. I replayed through the ending of the game for the EC. I hated it, I hated the game. It now collects dust. That is how bad the game is. That is how bad the EC is. That is how crappy their "Artistic Integrity" is and their "Artistic Vision" is. BioWare is a crap company now that makes even crappier games.

[mwags85]

mwags85 wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

mwags85 wrote...
 Comments? Thoughts?

Well, since you ask, my initial thought was why you felt you need to tell everyone you're not playing the game. So what?

Well, yes I'm not playing the game anymore.  Not because I'm intentionally rejecting it to spite Bioware, but simply because I can't help but know how everything is destined to play out in the end and the way eveything did play out in the end didn't leave me with a feeling of satisfaction for everything my Shepard character fought for.  The game (and the whole series) deserved better than what we got in my opinion.  The game should have left me with that feeling of, "oh I can't wait to start another playthrough", it didn't for me.  Not saying I don't still care about the series as a whole.  Sorry, I forget who it was that mentioned this in the forum, but they mentioned playing through the games knowing you're marching into certain death at the end is just a downer, or something like that.  I have no problem sacrificing my character at the end, I just feel it was poorly done and was very unsatisfying.  Regardless of whether or not you liked the ending, I was just wondering how many other people out there are feeling the same thing (or not) I am now that the Extended Cut has been released and more time has passed.  I know I made the point of Bioware focusing more on MP right now than SP.  I know Bioware will have SP content coming out and had to put those plans on hold for the Extended Cut.  I'm just not waiting in great anticipation for any of it at the moment.  People can tell me "sorry you're missing out".  I don't think I am, my personal preference.  I'm over my initial shock, disbelief, confusion, and anger towards the endings.  I've moved on in that sense.  It's been such a mixed bag of emotions for us all since this game came out.  Since a lot of the aftermath has died down, I was just curious what other people were feeling or doing with the games at this point.  For those of you still playing SP, good for you, glad you're enjoying.  Those playing mostly MP, I had fun with it myself and thought it was a great addition to the series.  Me personally, I'm taking a break from it all but still a huge fan.         

[SinnSly]

Heather Cline wrote...

Nope, haven't touched the game since the EC. Same happened with the original ending. Couldn't pick it up after the first run. I replayed through the ending of the game for the EC. I hated it, I hated the game. It now collects dust. That is how bad the game is. That is how bad the EC is. That is how crappy their "Artistic Integrity" is and their "Artistic Vision" is. BioWare is a crap company now that makes even crappier games.

^ This completely.  ME is dead to me, great work BioWare.

[JaegerBane]

mwags85 wrote...
Well, yes I'm not playing the game anymore.  Not because I'm intentionally rejecting it to spite Bioware, but simply because I can't help but know how everything is destined to play out in the end and the way eveything did play out in the end didn't leave me with a feeling of satisfaction <SNIP>

I'm not sure you caught my point - I'm sure you have your reasons for refusing to play the game again, I just didn't understand why you felt you needed to advertise the fact you aren't playing it to the forum. So you decided you had enough, great. Cool story bro. Not sure why you need the input of the forum for that. I have to put games down all the time, I don't recall feeling the need to post a thread informing everyone that I'm getting a bit sick of a given game.

I guess what I'm saying is that your post sounds like you're waving your hands going 'SEE THIS BIOWARE?! I AM *NOT* PLAYING ME3 ANYMORE. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. I'M LEAVING. I SAID, I'M LEAVING.... *tumbleweed*'. At least, thats how it came across.

[tanisha__unknown]

I haven't touched SP, but that's due to the fact that I've been busy elsewhere.

[tanisha__unknown]

Jinx1720 wrote...

I haven't touched SP, but that's due to the fact that I've been busy elsewhere.

Just saying, dude. ME3 is a marvel of coding and creativity when you see it in a line of other great franchises gone south:

- Mass Effect 3
- Diablo III
- Saints Row 3
- Fallout New Vegas

Yeah, give me ME3... All the other franchises just make me feel dirty for having tried them.






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Interesting mention. In fact I think, FNV is way closer to Fallout 1 and 2 compared to Fallout 3

[crypticcat 2o2p]

Jinx1720 wrote...

Jinx1720 wrote...

I haven't touched SP, but that's due to the fact that I've been busy elsewhere.

Just saying, dude. ME3 is a marvel of coding and creativity when you see it in a line of other great franchises gone south:

- Mass Effect 3
- Diablo III
- Saints Row 3
- Fallout New Vegas

Interesting mention. In fact I think, FNV is way closer to Fallout 1 and 2 compared to Fallout 3

Yeah, I have been getting that a lot in discussions like this one, allover the internet, really. Even with all the DLC though, FONV isn't such a great game storywise. I mean, take Boone to the compound and start murdering legionaires including Ceasar and then you're told you haven't accomplished anything? Really? And that's even if you're lucky enough to open doors without the game locking up on you. Yeah, great game. But I love how "Your every action shapes the world" in FONV. Removing the threat from New Vegas just kinda doesn't change things. Riiiiiight. Unless you count booking the lonesome drifter to the Tops as shaping the world, in that case, knock yourself out.

[Quikraptor]

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

mad825 wrote...

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

Not playing the game is only punishing yourself, not Bioware.

That said, ME3 isn't half as bad as DiabloIII was. Now that was a game worthy of dying in a fire, it actually led me to cut off all ties I have with Blizzard. And to think that Jennifer Hale was voicing Leah... Hard to believe she's the de facto Femshep!

Just saying, dude. ME3 is a marvel of coding and creativity when you see it in a line of other great franchises gone south:

- Fallout New Vegas

Yeah, give me ME3... All the other franchises just make me feel dirty for having tried them.

FONV wasn't bad. Besides, it's a spin-off creation from Obsidian so expect the status quo to be restored.

Matter of taste I guess. FONV was so bad Urquarth was forced to make a public apology and step aside for a Bethesda damage-control crew. It was Bethesda that pulled FONV out of the fire in the end, not Obsidian. For a game that isn't bad, that were pretty harsh steps.

I would have entered Kingdoms of Amalur too, but that isn't a franchise (yet). We can only hope it never becomes one.

I still prefer ME3 over the list I gave... I pains me to say I own all those games and have tried to see past their shortcomings. Only ME3 pulls it off, really. But much of that is due to my canon-shep, truth be told.

Oh good, I'm not the only one who felt like they wasted their money. FONV felt like the most watered down game I'd ever played. Politics politics politics. I wanted to explore a wasteland, not a desert. But anyway...

To me, ME3 proved to be, while far from flawless, exciting and satisfying. I doubt i'll play through SP again, but that's simply because I got what I wanted. I saved everyone I wanted, got my closure... All that. (I also am on the fence about KOA, because I actually had a lot of fun with that. But matter of opinion.)

[Roenik]

Going through my insanity run right now. Still enjoying it plenty. Participated in the MP weekend this morning. S'all good.

[Vilegrim]

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

Not playing the game is only punishing yourself, not Bioware.

That said, ME3 isn't half as bad as DiabloIII was. Now that was a game worthy of dying in a fire, it actually led me to cut off all ties I have with Blizzard. And to think that Jennifer Hale was voicing Leah... Hard to believe she's the de facto Femshep!

Just saying, dude. ME3 is a marvel of coding and creativity when you see it in a line of other great franchises gone south:

- Mass Effect 3
- Diablo III
- Saints Row 3
- Fallout New Vegas

Yeah, give me ME3... All the other franchises just make me feel dirty for having tried them.

New Vegas is an awesome game leaves the others for dead.

[mwags85]

JaegerBane wrote...

mwags85 wrote...
Well, yes I'm not playing the game anymore.  Not because I'm intentionally rejecting it to spite Bioware, but simply because I can't help but know how everything is destined to play out in the end and the way eveything did play out in the end didn't leave me with a feeling of satisfaction <SNIP>

I'm not sure you caught my point - I'm sure you have your reasons for refusing to play the game again, I just didn't understand why you felt you needed to advertise the fact you aren't playing it to the forum. So you decided you had enough, great. Cool story bro. Not sure why you need the input of the forum for that. I have to put games down all the time, I don't recall feeling the need to post a thread informing everyone that I'm getting a bit sick of a given game.

I guess what I'm saying is that your post sounds like you're waving your hands going 'SEE THIS BIOWARE?! I AM *NOT* PLAYING ME3 ANYMORE. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. I'M LEAVING. I SAID, I'M LEAVING.... *tumbleweed*'. At least, thats how it came across.

Yes I did get your point.  You want to know why I feel the need to say on the forum why I'm not playing Mass Effect anymore.  It is not simply to come out with a shotty remark and say "I'm boycotting (i'm not by the way) Bioware" to come off as a pissed off jerky fan.  That's childish and stupid.  I'm givng reasons and explanations respectfully as to why I feel the way I do.  Being that this game series was so huge and epic in scale and not just some other game that happened to be a piece of crap, I think it deserves a reason why it won't be played again (at least for a long while), not just by me, but any other fan who feels the same way and is completely relevant conversation.  As fans we've been involved with this series for a long time and we're passionate about how it's grown on us, even though it's a piece of fiction that makes no difference in our daily real world.  I posted this forum to inquire if anyone else was having a hard time playing through the game again like me based on their feelings toward the game as a whole and where everything is at at this point.  And yeah, I'll wave my hands at Bioware all day to get their attention and let them know how I feel about what they've done.  Let me clarify, I'm not simply flat out refusing to play the game, and I haven't stopped playing it to just spite Bioware and make a stupid point like that.  The excitement of the game playthrough has lost it's grip on me for obvious reasons most of us can relate too.  Again, not going into detail about why I disliked the endings or even parts of ME3.  So my disc remains out of the tray.  I personally don't get the enjoyment out of it I once did.  These are my thoughts post Extended Cut.  If anyone is having similar thoughts on the topic or completely opposite, (I know they are due to the number of posts already) they are free to share here as I have done.  I'm not looking to critize or critique anything anyone says here, but if people express their thoughts as to why they no longer feel the erge to play such an epic series as Mass Effect was, I think it's something worth sharing and Bioware should take it into consideration.

Modifié par mwags85, 29 juillet 2012 - 08:19 .

[spyro396]

Vilegrim wrote...

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

Not playing the game is only punishing yourself, not Bioware.

That said, ME3 isn't half as bad as DiabloIII was. Now that was a game worthy of dying in a fire, it actually led me to cut off all ties I have with Blizzard. And to think that Jennifer Hale was voicing Leah... Hard to believe she's the de facto Femshep!

Just saying, dude. ME3 is a marvel of coding and creativity when you see it in a line of other great franchises gone south:

- Mass Effect 3
- Diablo III
- Saints Row 3
- Fallout New Vegas

Yeah, give me ME3... All the other franchises just make me feel dirty for having tried them.

New Vegas is an awesome game leaves the others for dead.

New Vegas was good, the mechanics were improved but the map was to small and bland and the dlc wasnt very replayable

[crypticcat 2o2p]

Quikraptor wrote...

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

mad825 wrote...

crypticcat 2o2p wrote...

Not playing the game is only punishing yourself, not Bioware.

That said, ME3 isn't half as bad as DiabloIII was. Now that was a game worthy of dying in a fire, it actually led me to cut off all ties I have with Blizzard. And to think that Jennifer Hale was voicing Leah... Hard to believe she's the de facto Femshep!

Just saying, dude. ME3 is a marvel of coding and creativity when you see it in a line of other great franchises gone south:

- Fallout New Vegas

Yeah, give me ME3... All the other franchises just make me feel dirty for having tried them.

FONV wasn't bad. Besides, it's a spin-off creation from Obsidian so expect the status quo to be restored.

Matter of taste I guess. FONV was so bad Urquarth was forced to make a public apology and step aside for a Bethesda damage-control crew. It was Bethesda that pulled FONV out of the fire in the end, not Obsidian. For a game that isn't bad, that were pretty harsh steps.

I would have entered Kingdoms of Amalur too, but that isn't a franchise (yet). We can only hope it never becomes one.

I still prefer ME3 over the list I gave... I pains me to say I own all those games and have tried to see past their shortcomings. Only ME3 pulls it off, really. But much of that is due to my canon-shep, truth be told.

Oh good, I'm not the only one who felt like they wasted their money. FONV felt like the most watered down game I'd ever played. Politics politics politics. I wanted to explore a wasteland, not a desert. But anyway...

To me, ME3 proved to be, while far from flawless, exciting and satisfying. I doubt i'll play through SP again, but that's simply because I got what I wanted. I saved everyone I wanted, got my closure... All that. (I also am on the fence about KOA, because I actually had a lot of fun with that. But matter of opinion.)

KOA: find fayblades, win game. I loved the artstyle and I created the most beautiful fem-protagonist ever in a RPG, but the game couldn't decide what it wanted to be... Bioware or Bethesda. Really, it has all the right intentions, but that alone doesn't make a game. I love Slavatore as a writer, which was my angle for buying the game, but man... why did he rip off Tolkien? He can do so much better... It's just one big trainwreck of great people discovering that together they can't create a game if it saves their lives.

[Dovahkiwi]

 Still don't understand the extra little 5000+War Assets scene for Destroy... It even somehow confused me even more when it showed *SPOILER START*Shepards LI placing Shepards memorial thing on the memorial wall in the Normandy *SPOILER END*. Overall the EC kept me into Mass Effect and was pretty good 

[tholloway93]

i started playing from ME1-ME3 again so im playing it again at the moment. Its replayable for me for sure, but once you've completed a game theres only so much re-playing you can do..