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Get rid of the charge mechanic on the Acolyte and it would be fairly useful...


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Stardusk

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 ...with the stress on fairly. The charge mechanic makes it quite...well, a weapon not to be taken.

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Or at least reduce the charge time.

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Broganisity

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Charge function is good, but shorten it a bit. that one/two second charge is annoying sometimes, but I like the feel of it. Works like a charm otherwise.

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Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.

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Or reduce it to 0.3-0.5 seconds. That would make me happy enough.

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While it could be reduced a bit, removing the charge would make this gun really op. When it removes the shields from a gold prime in a few shots you kinda need a downside.

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Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


LOL. Really? Well, I can kill enemies far more quickly with dozens of other weapons, I can kills enemies faster with even the Mattock. But I am using it wrong? lol.

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Podboq wrote...

While it could be reduced a bit, removing the charge would make this gun really op. When it removes the shields from a gold prime in a few shots you kinda need a downside.


Yes, it removes shields, that's nice, also stuns (inconsistently) but shields are far easier to take down than armour anyway so whilst nice, being good against shields is meh. Like I said, I can kill enemies faster with dozens of other normal weapons. Apart from weight and weirdness, why use this weapon?

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Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


This. You can't just pick the Acolyte thinking "oh, this gun kills everything and it kills them fast and good!". It's a situational weapon meant to drain shields and barriers. Charge it up and point it at a banshee barrier/prime shield and see how many bars go down per shot.

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Stardusk wrote...

Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


LOL. Really? Well, I can kill enemies far more quickly with dozens of other weapons, I can kills enemies faster with even the Mattock. But I am using it wrong? lol.


If you're trying to kill enemies with the acolyte, yes you're using it wrong.

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Yes. I defy you to show me another weapon that can remove the shields from a Gold Atlas or Banshee in four shots, on a caster class with no weapon bonuses, and with I think the lowest weight of any weapon in the game.

Acolyte is great. If you're daft enough to take a gun that outright says how to use it in the description, and use it in a stupid way, the gun is not to blame.

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What is this?

A gun is not an abomination in the eyes of nerfduck?

Is he converting to the other side!? :o

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Stardusk wrote...

Podboq wrote...

While it could be reduced a bit, removing the charge would make this gun really op. When it removes the shields from a gold prime in a few shots you kinda need a downside.


Yes, it removes shields, that's nice, also stuns (inconsistently) but shields are far easier to take down than armour anyway so whilst nice, being good against shields is meh. Like I said, I can kill enemies faster with dozens of other normal weapons. Apart from weight and weirdness, why use this weapon?


Being the single best anti shield gun in the game is reason enough for me.

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Yes...or i would also like it if they make it auto-fire after the charge not making you release the charge manually. Sometimes you kind of mistime it by releasing the trigger too early.

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Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


It's an unecessary weapon. Why have a weapon just to strip shields when any weapon works fine without having to charge it.

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The Waffle Cat wrote...

What is this?

A gun is not an abomination in the eyes of nerfduck?

Is he converting to the other side!? :o


Do you really enjoy being such a troll? or are you really that puerile?

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Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


Actually what are you doing wrong, when shooting the Acolyte as you are supposed to do? You are open to fire for two seconds, which is deathly on Gold and Platinum. Given the fact that the Acolyte is a weapon for biotics does worsen the problem. Biotics tend to be squishy. Casting any power is quicker than getting an Acolyte shot off.

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xtorma wrote...

Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


It's an unecessary weapon. Why have a weapon just to strip shields when any weapon works fine without having to charge it.


Why have the Claymore to kill enemies when the Katana works just fine?

That is how stupid your question is.

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I disagree, I find shields more annoying and harder to take out.

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xtorma wrote...

Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


It's an unecessary weapon. Why have a weapon just to strip shields when any weapon works fine without having to charge it.


This is my point. Shields are already easier to bring down than armour. Your description is a good one, unnecessary weapon. It is at least better than the Disciple.

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Stardusk wrote...

The Waffle Cat wrote...

What is this?

A gun is not an abomination in the eyes of nerfduck?

Is he converting to the other side!? :o


Do you really enjoy being such a troll? or are you really that puerile?


The truth hurts you!

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Uberschveinen wrote...

xtorma wrote...

Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


It's an unecessary weapon. Why have a weapon just to strip shields when any weapon works fine without having to charge it.


Why have the Claymore to kill enemies when the Katana works just fine?

That is how stupid your question is.


Nice strawman. You cannot use cover when charging the gun, on Gold and Platinum especially, you die very fast. But hey, you can drop some shields. 

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If you run a power based class, the Acolyte is the best thing, especially for classes who you usually have to spec to do additional shield damage with.

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DHKany wrote...

I disagree, I find shields more annoying and harder to take out.


This is not an issue of opinion. Fight a Platinum Banshee. What goes down faster? Barrier or Armor? There is your answer.

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Stardusk wrote...

Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


LOL. Really? Well, I can kill enemies far more quickly with dozens of other weapons, I can kills enemies faster with even the Mattock. But I am using it wrong? lol.


You can't compare the Mattock with the Acolyte. Their roles are completely different. If you're talking about killing enemies then there's plenty other powerful guns around to kill enemies with. Don't blame the gun for not being able to kill stuff as quickly as everything else.