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Get rid of the charge mechanic on the Acolyte and it would be fairly useful...


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#151
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Silbane_23 wrote...



Courtesy of snkstr.



This is how the acolyte shines when used well.

Host on a map with tons of corners to hide behind, against Cerberus, with a CQC powerhouse and with the piranha to pull the weight:pinched:. It works even better with tactical cloak in the mix, so what? One might as well shoot them in the head.

p.s. Snkstr, nicely done and fun to watch. The shot/power combos were well timed and i can't dispute a certain synergy between Fury powers and the Acolyte.

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el Tacos56 wrote...

YES.

This man perfectly understands how this gun is great for the shadow. I have the Acolyte X with the melee boost and barrel on my shadow, and in tandem with shadow strike makes it entirely possible to OHKO Phantoms on even platinum if you are using a melee damage gear bonus and have fully specced for melee damage in the fitness tree. It hones your already incredibly potent assassination abilities, making it so that you can kill most non-boss units from geth and cerberus with a single power by demolishing shields and barriers first. Sure, if you are using a weapon-heavy class like a destroyer or something, then obviously you want a gun with more practical stopping power, bigger clip, etc. But for it's few niche roles, there is no better weapon, hands down. Far, far from a bad weapon, OP.


If it was the "N7 Acolyte" with a description saying the Alliance made it to help Shadows strip shields and barriers before striking their targets in melee I'd be totally on board with that and have no problem with the gun at all.  I might still not use it but I suck with the Shadow anyway.  Unfortunately it is an asari made weapon that does not fulfil the needs of my asari characters.  This is why I don't like it.

#153
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Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


the regar would disagree with that. just saying

#154
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If you attempt to switch weapons while holding the charge on the Acolyte you will instantly switch weapons (no animation, you will have the other weapon in your hands ready to go) after the Acolyte is fired.

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upinya slayin wrote...

Uberschveinen wrote...

Stop whining. The problem is not the Acolyte. It is the most powerful anti-shield weapon in the game. The problem is you, for using it wrong.


the regar would disagree with that. just saying


While it's good at shield killing, the reegar needs to be used at cqc range.
You can fire an acolyte across the map, and its shield killing ability is much better than the reegars'.

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Modifié par Podboq, 31 juillet 2012 - 11:22 .


#156
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Bump for the sake of comparison to this thread.

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 13 novembre 2012 - 01:07 .


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Jesus, I remember this.

4LL TEH 3RTH WAPONS SUC! BUF DEM!

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DHKany wrote...

Jesus, I remember this.

4LL TEH 3RTH WAPONS SUC! BUF DEM!


Has he flip/flopped on the Collector SMG yet?

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megabeast37215 wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Jesus, I remember this.

4LL TEH 3RTH WAPONS SUC! BUF DEM!


Has he flip/flopped on the Collector SMG yet?


nope. Still waiting though. 

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lol. It's a good thing 99% of my posts are BS. People ready and waiting to pounce on anything

#161
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Jack Crapper wrote...

lol. It's a good thing 99% of my posts are BS. People ready and waiting to pounce on anything


Lucky for you 68% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 13 novembre 2012 - 01:19 .


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DHKany wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Jesus, I remember this.

4LL TEH 3RTH WAPONS SUC! BUF DEM!


Has he flip/flopped on the Collector SMG yet?


nope. Still waiting though. 


Yes. He loves it at Rank X. And he hasn't flip flopped, he said it sucked at low levels. And it does. The gap between X on that gun and lower levels is ridiculous.

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Kenadian wrote...

Yes. He loves it at Rank X. And he hasn't flip flopped, he said it sucked at low levels. And it does. The gap between X on that gun and lower levels is ridiculous.


I believe the words were something akin to "Not being Worthy of Ultra Rare status."

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Yes. He loves it at Rank X. And he hasn't flip flopped, he said it sucked at low levels. And it does. The gap between X on that gun and lower levels is ridiculous.


I believe the words were something akin to "Not being Worthy of Ultra Rare status."


I personally believe that UR's and Promotional weapons shouldn't have as much level dependency as the Rares and Uncommons.  One of the reasons that the Wraith, wrongly IMHO, gets so hate is the fact that it is very level dependent.  The same can be said for the Valkyrie, Typhoon, and Indra. 

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UKStory135 wrote...
I personally believe that UR's and Promotional weapons shouldn't have as much level dependency as the Rares and Uncommons.  One of the reasons that the Wraith, wrongly IMHO, gets so hate is the fact that it is very level dependent.  The same can be said for the Valkyrie, Typhoon, and Indra. 


Agree 100%.

#166
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Nemy Montoya wrote...

el Tacos56 wrote...

YES.

This man perfectly understands how this gun is great for the shadow. I have the Acolyte X with the melee boost and barrel on my shadow, and in tandem with shadow strike makes it entirely possible to OHKO Phantoms on even platinum if you are using a melee damage gear bonus and have fully specced for melee damage in the fitness tree. It hones your already incredibly potent assassination abilities, making it so that you can kill most non-boss units from geth and cerberus with a single power by demolishing shields and barriers first. Sure, if you are using a weapon-heavy class like a destroyer or something, then obviously you want a gun with more practical stopping power, bigger clip, etc. But for it's few niche roles, there is no better weapon, hands down. Far, far from a bad weapon, OP.


If it was the "N7 Acolyte" with a description saying the Alliance made it to help Shadows strip shields and barriers before striking their targets in melee I'd be totally on board with that and have no problem with the gun at all.  I might still not use it but I suck with the Shadow anyway.  Unfortunately it is an asari made weapon that does not fulfil the needs of my asari characters.  This is why I don't like it.


It is the best primary weapon in the game for the Justicar and one of the best sidearms for the Valkyrie.  I like to keep my Sentinel cooldowns at 110% and a Wraith X or Paladin X with HVB, a GPS X, or a Graal X all hit that mark with my Phantom Killer as a sidearm.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...
I personally believe that UR's and Promotional weapons shouldn't have as much level dependency as the Rares and Uncommons.  One of the reasons that the Wraith, wrongly IMHO, gets so hate is the fact that it is very level dependent.  The same can be said for the Valkyrie, Typhoon, and Indra. 


Agree 100%.


We usually do agree, I think my general dislike of the Saber (Except on the Ghost, where it is amazing) is one of the few times we have.

As far as the Acolyte goes, I think it is a great gun as it is.  It has two indepent roles.  One is as a shield stripper which works very well on classes like the DA, AJA, HA, and Drellguard.  It's second role is as a phanom killing sidearm, which is a duty that it performs very well, though I would argue that the Scorpion, actually, is just as effective and provides more utility. The ony reason I would choose the Acolyte over the Scorpion on any class other than the ones I mentioned above is if by choosing the Acolyte over the Scorpion, I could get my cooldown near the magic number of 110% that I feel is ideal on most Sentinels and Engineers.

I generally carry either Scorpion or Acolyte on everyone but my AA and my Vanguards.  The Vanguard s and the AA don't really need either as they have a way to stop phantoms already with Stasis and the Stagger from Biotic Charge.

#168
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Is there a way to... 'de-bump' this thread? At first I thought this was a 'change the non-charge Acolyte' thread. The original post is irrelevant. How about we just start from scratch?

#169
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I find this funny. Given the other thread that it is OP.

But I really want the original Acolyte back. Although the current no charge version is easier to use from cover. I really miss the original mechanics of this gun on Vanguards, and the Shadow.

#170
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Lol. I don't post often but I read daily. This is hilarious. In stardusk's defense he does have a lot of great input about the game.

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Shampoohorn wrote...

Bump for the sake of comparison to this thread.

hmmm :mellow:

#172
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Seriously? It was dead for good and you decided to revive it for that?

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Well, it is kind of funny that he whined the Acolyte sucked, and now he's whining that everyone uses it.

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 Yeah, this thread has a way of making you realize how much the missile glitch costed to those players who used to realize the potential of this weapon before the patch... <_<

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Airealite wrote...

Well, it is kind of funny that he whined the Acolyte sucked, and now he's whining that everyone uses it.


Yeah, I am surprised too. He seems too good a player to whine. Maybe some people hate guns that gain widespread  use.