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[Mandalore313]

[RequiemPrime]

Gazz66666 wrote...

Angelwave wrote...

Gazz66666 wrote...

HinDae wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Make it N7 ranking based. 6,000 minimum to play Platinum.

Why stop there? Make it 10,000 N7 Minimum, and the player must have Typhoon XI unlocked.

Nah. Typhoon is waaay too common now.

Players must have Brilliant Surge X to play Platinum.

Ahh yes! And you must have taken down an Atlas, Prime, and Banshee in that order as the last three enemies in a match for three consequitve Platinum matches with Full Extraction using only that gun.

Indeed. Despite the fact that you have to have done this in order to be allowed to play on Platinum. REGARDLESS.

I like this. This needs to be introduced and then buffed immediately.

I'll send it to leagal right away for approval. 

[silencekills]

rmccowen wrote...

For Platinum, the decision rule should be that you have to have completed at least one Platinum match in order to join a Platinum lobby. That would fix the problem.

What?

[GallowsPole]

j_plemons wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

j_plemons wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Make it N7 ranking based. 6,000 minimum to play Platinum.

I would make it dependant on matches won on Gold, were I to code it.  N7 ranking is not an accurate indicator of skill.  Neither is wins honestly but it is more indicative of skill then N7 ranking.  

Score or matches won means squat too. I could be a Gold farmer that has no right being on Platinum than the guy with the Predator. There is no clear cut way in a co-op game that is indicative of skill. Even if you routinely top the boards. You could just be playing with a suck team.

I dont follow your logic.  If you are playing on a "suck team" frequently I dont think you would be winning that many golds.  Matches won is imho the most accurate measure of skill because it would be hard for you to be carried EVERY match, as most teams would kick you after one if you were not a skilled player. 

If you make the marker based on how many Gold matches you won, how the heck am I supposed to know how you won them. Let's say you weren't on a suck team, and in fact you were the one that sucked and got carried. I sure as hell wouldn't want you on Platinum.

[jerrmy12]

j_plemons wrote...

Because kicking the same scrubs with lvl 4 rare weapon and no equipment mods playing drell adept over and over and over again for 30 minutes is tiring.

/signed
a lv 10 WILL not survive AT ALL
same with **** drell

[xtorma]

j_plemons wrote...

I can think of only one reason why people would be opposed to this idea...

Freedom?

[xx DJ ONE xx]

rmccowen wrote...

I completely agree; there are too many scrubs on every difficulty. For Platinum, the decision rule should be that you have to have completed at least one Platinum match in order to join a Platinum lobby. That would fix the problem.

Actually, we should extend the same gate to Gold and Silver, as well. And no grandfathered access--everyone starts with a clean slate after the patch.

Lmao, I concur

[Gazz66666]

brian_breed wrote...

Gazz66666 wrote...

j_plemons wrote...

Why not?

Because this game is for everyone and like it or not, everyone is entitled to join whichever public lobby the game randomly puts them into. You want to kick them after that, fine, that's up to you. But it's not fair to impose a limit of which difficulty players are "allowed" to play on simply because they're new to the game. After all, you and I were both that person once.

Stop being such an elitist. It's bad form, chap.

Not really. Most multiplayer games GATE ACCESS to higher difficulties for PUGs because CARRIES SUCK. They take fun out of the game for better players and prevent the carry from learning how to play better.

And by gating the access to higher difficulties you take the fun out of the game for less skilled players, who can't access features of the game touted in, say, DLC packs because "hurhur, you're not good enough and we only want the BEST players in this Co-Op game".  You don't get good at Platinum by playing Bronze. You get good at Platinum by playing Platinum. You can't expect anyone to improve at a particular difficulty if you ban them from ever playing it.


The solution: Don't gate for higher difficulties but allow players to kick from lobbies. Basically, what we have now.

[Gunloaded]

They payed for the game just like you and can play any difficulty they want.

[j_plemons]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Gazz66666 wrote...

brian_breed wrote...

Gazz66666 wrote...

j_plemons wrote...

Why not?

Because this game is for everyone and like it or not, everyone is entitled to join whichever public lobby the game randomly puts them into. You want to kick them after that, fine, that's up to you. But it's not fair to impose a limit of which difficulty players are "allowed" to play on simply because they're new to the game. After all, you and I were both that person once.

Stop being such an elitist. It's bad form, chap.

Not really. Most multiplayer games GATE ACCESS to higher difficulties for PUGs because CARRIES SUCK. They take fun out of the game for better players and prevent the carry from learning how to play better.

And by gating the access to higher difficulties you take the fun out of the game for less skilled players, who can't access features of the game touted in, say, DLC packs because "hurhur, you're not good enough and we only want the BEST players in this Co-Op game".  You don't get good at Platinum by playing Bronze. You get good at Platinum by playing Platinum. You can't expect anyone to improve at a particular difficulty if you ban them from ever playing it.


The solution: Don't gate for higher difficulties but allow players to kick from lobbies. Basically, what we have now.

Server matchmaking where you can set up individual rules for your session would be a great thing. You could set enter requirements and everyone else that doesn't can play just the same as they want.


One can dream ...

This is a great idea also.

[Gazz66666]

j_plemons wrote...

I can think of only one reason why people would be opposed to this idea...

And that would be...?

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Server matchmaking where you can set up individual rules for your session would be a great thing. You could set enter requirements and everyone else that doesn't can play just the same as they want.


One can dream ...

Eh. It's nice in principle, but so is everything until it starts being abused. After a while, anyone who wasn't the games so-called Elite would have been driven away. 

[GallowsPole]

What's even ironic, is people who were carried on Gold or Platinum, would be able to participate in Gold and Platinum matches because they won Gold matches AND participated in a Platinum lobby! Using these guidelines we got so far.

Also any rule based matchmaking wouldn't work either because you would never be able to find that special rule to filter out the unwanteds. For example, making a rule for n7 over 2000, all weapons maxed, all gear, plenty of consumables, and won x amount of Gold matches/Platinum matches. Again, we got Joe Farmer who wouldnt last a wave without being revived a half a dozen times.

[rmccowen]

silencekills wrote...

rmccowen wrote...

For Platinum, the decision rule should be that you have to have completed at least one Platinum match in order to join a Platinum lobby. That would fix the problem.

What?

Reductio ad absurdum. The OP, and similar posts in the past, essentially advocate the rule that "anyone worse than me shouldn't be allowed to play my preferred difficulty"; if we extend that privilege to everyone, the result is that no one will be allowed to play any difficulty, ever.

...jokes are always less funny when you have to explain them afterward.

[j_plemons]

GallowsPole wrote...

What's even ironic, is people who were carried on Gold or Platinum, would be able to participate in Gold and Platinum matches because they won Gold matches AND participated in a Platinum lobby! Using these guidelines we got so far.

Also any rule based matchmaking wouldn't work either because you would never be able to find that special rule to filter out the unwanteds. For example, making a rule for n7 over 2000, all weapons maxed, all gear, plenty of consumables, and won x amount of Gold matches/Platinum matches. Again, we got Joe Farmer who wouldnt last a wave without being revived a half a dozen times.

The thing is, it would be very difficult for someone to be carried on gold to a sufficient win level to access platinum, because players would kick them after a match where they did not carry their own weight.

[ABjerre]

Sevrun wrote...

j_plemons wrote...

Because kicking the same scrubs with lvl 4 rare weapon and no equipment mods playing drell adept over and over and over again for 30 minutes is tiring.

Sure, as soon as you elitists get off your snobby horses and grow up.  kay?

Hey! Dont call Felicity snobby.

[j_plemons]

rmccowen wrote...

silencekills wrote...

rmccowen wrote...

For Platinum, the decision rule should be that you have to have completed at least one Platinum match in order to join a Platinum lobby. That would fix the problem.

What?

The OP, and similar posts in the past, essentially advocate the rule that "anyone worse than me shouldn't be allowed to play my preferred difficulty"

...jokes are always less funny when you have to explain them afterward.

What I am advocating is that people prove their skill and determination to better their skill by proving themselves first at lesser difficulties.  A model that is followed quite successfully by other games, to the delight of their playerbase.

[Felhand]

"You must be this tall to ride."

Kid: Mom, when will I be tall enough to ride the roller coaster?

Mother: Never jimmy, you have dwarfism.

Kid: Disney land sucks mom.

Mother; yes jimmy, yes it does.

[BellaStrega]

rmccowen wrote...
...jokes are always less funny when you have to explain them afterward.

This is so not true.

[silencekills]

rmccowen wrote...

silencekills wrote...

rmccowen wrote...

For Platinum, the decision rule should be that you have to have completed at least one Platinum match in order to join a Platinum lobby. That would fix the problem.

What?

Reductio ad absurdum. The OP, and similar posts in the past, essentially advocate the rule that "anyone worse than me shouldn't be allowed to play my preferred difficulty"; if we extend that privilege to everyone, the result is that no one will be allowed to play any difficulty, ever.

...jokes are always less funny when you have to explain them afterward.

Oh. That was a joke.

Figured I was reading it wrong.

[WeAreLegion-]

Felhand wrote...

"You must be this tall to ride."

Kid: Mom, when will I be tall enough to ride the roller coaster?

Mother: Never jimmy, you have dwarfism.

Kid: Disney land sucks mom.

Mother; yes jimmy, yes it does.

Soo mean, but funny at the same time

[j_plemons]

An interesting side note: I was going to play on bronze last night to help forward the allied goal for Operation Overwatch. It was 10pm eastern time and no one was queued for bronze. I wonder where all the new players were?

[j_plemons]

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