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[corkey sweet]

i disagree,

ME1 was a much better RPG than the other 2. that alone makes it a great game

[Aurora313]

ME1 had a feeling of bigness and freedom that ME2 managed to latch onto, but ME3 lost completely.
ME1 I could do whatever mission I wanted first to unlock Virmire. ME2, I could recruit or perform loyalties in any order to unlock the next part of the game. I had side quests that were relatively unrelated to the story, but were still on unique and different maps with separate objectives for each. I could choose my direction within the confines of the game and chose my Shepard's lines according to how I feel at the time, but ME3? 

In ME3, I'm trapped in a singular path with fetch quests and maybe 5 side quests that are repurposed multiplayer maps. ME1+2 had that spacious(no pun intended) feeling that ME3 lost by railroading us into a set path in game. The diaogue was horrible. I wanted to speak to my teammates one on one, not get this ambiant Zaeed-dialogue. I wanted to sit down with my LI and chat. Learn what the hell they've been doing in the last six months while I was imprisoned. ME3 is a pile of missed opportunity, and I'm sorry for that. If it had been pushed back to 2013 to polish it's obviously unfinshed content, I would have been happier.

If ME1 was completely remastered with ME3 graphics and combat system, most of my qualms with the game would vanish.

Modifié par Aurora313, 30 juillet 2012 - 12:22 .

[Sabre4000]

ME1 is better.

[chemiclord]

ShepnTali wrote...

Yep, there's nitpicking and then there's the biggest, fattest, ugliest elephant in the room that can't be missed. The elephant that has since lost a little weight and slapped on a heap of makeup.

Hey!  Ashley was not THAT fat!

So what if she got a boob job and some collagen injected into her lips?  Geez... she's seen the competition for Shep's affections now, she knows she's gotta step up her game!  That milkshake wasn't gonna be bringing the boys to her yard without an added cherry, ya know what I mean?

[xsdob]

ME1 is not the best game, ME2 was for fixing most of ME1's severe problems and short comings.

ME2 had the perfect balance of action shooting and dialogue choice and branching story, a nice middle ground.

ME3, while I like the gameplay changes, still had too little rpg elements, and the endings really damaged it until the EC for me.

ME1 I like the least because in order to get to the good story parts you have to shift through a lot of poorly done gameplay sections, making it more a chore than a game to play through.

This is all my opinion though, and the difference between these are like 1 or 2 % for me so it's not even a big drop in how I'd rank these games. ME2: 93 out of 100, ME3: 91 out of 100, ME1: 90 out of 100.

Modifié par xsdob, 30 juillet 2012 - 12:26 .

[RyanSoup]

For the most part, exploration was optional. Side-missions were completely optional. And what do you mean "Re-uses the same enemy factions?" Surroundings I understand, but ME3 really only has three factions... If you want to talk about unrealistic scope of time, how long do you think it takes to scan planets in every system, retrieve the junk from them, then find who needs it and give it to them. Seriously. You're really just grasping at straws to try and prove your point

[silentassassin264]

Han Shot First wrote...

Cheviot wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Yep, there's nitpicking and then there's the biggest, fattest, ugliest elephant in the room that can't be missed. The elephant that has since lost a little weight and slapped on a heap of makeup.

You're talking about how the Council didn't believe Shepard when he first accused Saren, but believed Tali's recording without doing a thing to check its authenticity, right?

Or Saren attacking Eden Prime to get a Prothean beacon to tell him where the Conduit was when he 1) was a Spectre, 2) didn't need the Conduit to get the Presidium, and 3) already had a beacon on Virmire?

That was explained in the chat with Vigil if you bring Liara (at least I think that is where it is).  They point out that Sovereign's fear of whatever the Conduit was led Saren to be a fugitive and having to use the Conduit in the first place.  Basically, Sovvy did not know what the Conduit was and was afraid to fall into a Prothean trap upon attacking the Citadel immediately.  By the time it and Saren found out what the conduit was, they needed to use it to attack the Citadel.  So yes, if Saren and Sovvy had just skipped attacking Eden Prime and attacked the Citadel, they would have been successful, but they didn't know that.  It wasn't a plot hole.  

And he had a beacon on Virmire because he found out about the conduit before in the first place.  He was likely checking the one on Eden Prime to see if it had any new data.  

[TJBartlemus]

I personally enjoyed ME1. I loved the story aspects of it, had a much more theatrical feel to it and made me a fan of the Mass Effect series. The only problems I have with it is the gameplay and the graphics could be better. (But what else do you expect from a pre-2008 game?) For it's time it was a great game, and set up an amazing series.

[SpamBot2000]

Pre-2008 = Ancient history? Hmph, young people.

[Persephone]

I enjoyed all three games. I guess I like bad games, huh? 

[fr33stylez]

easygame88 wrote...

I don't get the nostalgia argument when discussing ME1 when it is a game that can be picked up and played right now. It's not like people are just remembering the good old days. I played ME1 again several months ago when playing through the entire series and, yeah, it is as good as it has always been.

Don't worry, people don't know what nostalgia means.

[Zubie]

fr33stylez wrote...

easygame88 wrote...

I don't get the nostalgia argument when discussing ME1 when it is a game that can be picked up and played right now. It's not like people are just remembering the good old days. I played ME1 again several months ago when playing through the entire series and, yeah, it is as good as it has always been.

Don't worry, people don't know what nostalgia means.

Apparently

[Marauder Shields N7]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

RyanSoup wrote...

For the most part, exploration was optional. Side-missions were completely optional. And what do you mean "Re-uses the same enemy factions?" Surroundings I understand, but ME3 really only has three factions... If you want to talk about unrealistic scope of time, how long do you think it takes to scan planets in every system, retrieve the junk from them, then find who needs it and give it to them. Seriously. You're really just grasping at straws to try and prove your point

You fight the same faceless mercs and drones over and over again in ME1. Also, the exploration adds about 12 hours of gameplay. The fetching only adds like 3. So it takes way less time to scan.

So you prefer less exploration gameplay and more fetching for junk using planet scannig?

wat

Modifié par Marauder Shields N7, 30 juillet 2012 - 01:44 .

[KotorEffect3]

corkey sweet wrote...

i disagree,

ME1 was a much better RPG than the other 2. that alone makes it a great game

Better RPG does not necessarily equate to better overall game

[KotorEffect3]

Persephone wrote...

I enjoyed all three games. I guess I like bad games, huh? 

Nah you are just reasonable

[xsdob]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

I enjoyed all three games. I guess I like bad games, huh? 

Nah you are just reasonable

Yup.

[Marauder Shields N7]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Marauder Shields N7 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

RyanSoup wrote...

For the most part, exploration was optional. Side-missions were completely optional. And what do you mean "Re-uses the same enemy factions?" Surroundings I understand, but ME3 really only has three factions... If you want to talk about unrealistic scope of time, how long do you think it takes to scan planets in every system, retrieve the junk from them, then find who needs it and give it to them. Seriously. You're really just grasping at straws to try and prove your point

You fight the same faceless mercs and drones over and over again in ME1. Also, the exploration adds about 12 hours of gameplay. The fetching only adds like 3. So it takes way less time to scan.

So you prefer less gameplay and more fetch planet scannig?

wat

I prefer to not have 12 hours of the same exact tedious game play.

its not always the EXACT same.

[Marauder Shields N7]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Marauder Shields N7 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Marauder Shields N7 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

RyanSoup wrote...

For the most part, exploration was optional. Side-missions were completely optional. And what do you mean "Re-uses the same enemy factions?" Surroundings I understand, but ME3 really only has three factions... If you want to talk about unrealistic scope of time, how long do you think it takes to scan planets in every system, retrieve the junk from them, then find who needs it and give it to them. Seriously. You're really just grasping at straws to try and prove your point

You fight the same faceless mercs and drones over and over again in ME1. Also, the exploration adds about 12 hours of gameplay. The fetching only adds like 3. So it takes way less time to scan.

So you prefer less gameplay and more fetch planet scannig?

wat

I prefer to not have 12 hours of the same exact tedious game play.

its not always the EXACT same.

You're right, sometimes you go through the left door and sometimes you go through the right door.

yeah and sometimes of screaming GO GO GO! they'll yell ENEMIES EVERYWHERE!

In all seriousness though I loved exploration it's what made ME1 special IMO

 

[Seboist]

Gameplay wise,ME1 and 2 are mediocre sub-standard shooters with half-baked RPG elements with a sprinkling of light C&C here and there. ME3 on the other hand is a serviceable Gears clone that's even more linear than the series it's trying to copy.

Story wise, ME1 is a well executed but cliche self-righteous prophet/messiah story with it's sequels being the lowest of the low pulp schlock garbage with rubbish such as the death of the protaganist as a cheap plot device to fast forward two years and a deus ex machina device (crucible) being one of the worst plots in gaming history.

As a whole, the series utterly fails as a trilogy with loose continuity and retcons galore and it's hyped feature of choices carrying over being a total bust with even non-RPGs wiping the floor with it when it comes to a branching narrative such as Starcraft 2 and freaking GTAIV.

Modifié par Seboist, 30 juillet 2012 - 02:01 .

[KotorEffect3]

Seboist wrote...

Gameplay wise,ME1 and 2 are mediocre sub-standard shooters with half-baked RPG elements with a sprinkling of light C&C here and there. ME3 on the other hand is a serviceable Gears clone that's even more linear than the series it's trying to copy.

Story wise, ME1 is a well executed but cliche self-righteous prophet/messiah story with it's sequels being the lowest of the low pulp schlock garbage with rubbish such as the death of the protaganist as a cheap plot device to fast forward two years and a deus ex machina device (crucible) being one of the worst plots in gaming history.

As a whole, the series utterly fails as a trilogy with loose continuity and retcons galore and it's hyped feature of choices carrying over being a total bust with even non-RPGs wiping the floor with it when it comes to a branching narrative such as Starcraft 2 and freaking GTAIV.

pulp schlock this blah blah blah go away

[Seboist]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

pulp schlock this blah blah blah go away

I'm glad you liked it.