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[Geimhreadh]

If it makes you feel any better, what I've been mostly playing (AJ) since Earth came out only steals the occasional clip. As far as I'm concerned, the grenades are all yours. =p

[WickedTruth 823]

 If I ever see OP in one of my lobbies he will be kicked to the curb quicker then he found his way in. Demolisher is a support class. NOT A DAMAGE DEALER. Done end of story. She is meant to feed a destroyer class along with the destroyer's Typhoon. Just like me and a bud did last night. He had a demolisher with a Typhoon and I had my destroyer out. You act like grenades are tottally epic and kill everything fast. Base characters maybe. 

Another Douchebag demolisher being greedy right here... 

[tanisha__unknown]

DayusMakhina wrote...

 People's attitudes to Demolishers are just pathetic really.

The player is fully entitled to play the game however they want... if they want to grenade spam it's their choice, if they want to leave it more for other teammates that is equally their choice. None of you that complain that it's a support character and should therefore support others have any right whatsoever to tell somebody how they should play the game.

True, but you can't stop me from replenishing ammo and grenades from "YOUR" box either. The only valuable thing about this class (encountered it only on FBWGP sessions) is that you don't have to leave your cover and be exposed to enemy fire.

I plainly find this "DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH MY SUPPLY PYLON" attitude quite annoying and I, too, hope I will never come across you in MP.

[Star fury]

Dunno, when I play my Demolisher most people don't give a **** about pylon. They don't fill even ammo, and they don't use it power/weapon boosting sphere.

[Kenadian]

When I play it, the Pylon is there. Use it if you want, but don't be surprised if I take stuff from it before you do.

[AsheraII]

gimmethegepgun wrote...

xtorma wrote...

When I enter a match as demolisher, I watch the characters....

Start

1. Myself Demolisher
2. Fury
3. Shadow
4. Justicar

10 seconds after I join

1. Demolisher
2. Drell Adept
3. Male Quarian Infiltrator
4. Destroyer

I can't for the life of me figure out why

10 seconds after that:

1. Drell Adept
2. Male Quarian Infiltrator
3. Destroyer.

Actually, that would be
Remove consumables
Ready
5..
4..
3..
2..
1..
ALT-F4

3 grenadiers in a game fighting eachother for the ammo deposits.

[AshTheBrave]

Edalborez wrote...

And this is why you keep a low cooldown and just replant the pylon instead.

Amen to that. I was able to keep a krogan soldier, a destroyer, and myself well stocked with grenades. I can plop a plyon in 9.23 seconds with 200% cooldown. We had no problems on gold matches. 

Demolisher needs grenades. Those are her only powers. She's damn good with them. She can be just as good as anyone else who uses grenades. Don't hog the grenades there's plenty for everyone if you don't use them stupidly. Also remember you probably have an over abundance of ammo packs. Those refill your grenades too. She's not support. She called a demolisher for a reason.  She is not support.

Of course, I wouldn't mind just putting down a pylon and leeching creds.  Just so long as everyone knows I won the game for them.  It's cool to have a team eating out of your hands.

WickedTruth 823 wrote...

 If I ever see OP in one of my lobbies he will be kicked to the curb quicker then he found his way in. Demolisher is a support class. NOT A DAMAGE DEALER. Done end of story. She is meant to feed a destroyer class along with the destroyer's Typhoon. Just like me and a bud did last night. He had a demolisher with a Typhoon and I had my destroyer out. You act like grenades are tottally epic and kill everything fast. Base characters maybe. 

Another Douchebag demolisher being greedy right here... 

 

Uh, lmao, no. She's a damage dealer. Definitely not meant to feed the destroyer. I always top the boards even over destroyers. 

Modifié par AshTheBrave, 29 juillet 2012 - 06:04 .

[AldarionnEB]

The_N7 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

Ya... A lot of people keep throwing this "support" word around, but I don't think you get what it means, most Support classes can support people WITH OUT worry over losing one ability. The Demo.. all she has are Grenades THAT IT! If she has NO GERNADES She has NO POWERS!

And there more way to support people then ,lending ammo, Like.. Oh I don't know Ripping the shield off of every enemy in the area with more ease then any Energy drain or Overload ever could do, Making a Boss armor into butter... as well as giving a nifty OMFG shield boost when needed.

As for people who say there a spam fest, What.. EXACLY do you want them to do? Not use Grenades? That there class mentality, To bunker down and grenade it from a far while taking pop shots, GET OVER IT! And FYI I rarely die unless it me having to pick up some one else. And if you hate the Demo spam.. then never play with Shadows Or Slayers.

With that said, I don't mind sharing ammo or Grenades.. But If some one hogging my only means to attack you bet I'm going to be pissed.

I have to agree with this, the Demolisher liquidises the larger enemies and blow the smaller ones into oblivion. But it's best to change things up. If you're the only one that requires thy holy hand grenades, then horde, but if there's a destroyer in the game, make a friend and share. They can't run very fast and being a heavy user of one I appreciate it when a demolisher is friendly 

I actually don't have a problem with this, but there are conditions.

1 - You MUST have a mic active. I'm not there to give you my Pylon so YOU can horde it. You need to communicate with me.
2 - Move to the pylon, take some grenades, move back to your spot. I'll offer you the same courtesy.
3 - If I'm completely out of grenades, I take priority and reserve the right to camp my pylon for a few spawns to refill my supply.

The problem is, on randoms nobody uses a mic, and nobody asks. If I don't place my Pylon and immediately sit on it, some MQI or Destroyer will sit on it and never move. I get nothing from it. All I'm asking for is a little consideration that my ONLY powers are grenades, and a single ability that refills them. I have a gun, but I don't have a bunch of weapon damage bonuses like Infiltrators or Destroyers that make it a primary damage dealer. My grenades are my damage, and I spec them that way. I need the majority of the grenades and ammo from my Pylon.

[Computron2000]

When i use the demolisher, i find it more efficient to plant it wherever the camper/snipers are then i run round for the ammo boxes. Most are silly enough to depend on the pylon for their grenades which keeps them from competing for the ammo boxes with me. Also its helpful that they draw the majority of the aggro towards their camp.

As a non demolisher grenade user, i'm finding it as bad as having another grenade cap 5 user (worse since they can have more than 10 with gc gear) in the same game because the demolishers i see run around to the ammo boxes and replant their pylons to suck up as many grenades as possible.

In this case, i switch to using my gun. Demolishers with the same problem should do it as well

[jamesaka11710]

This reminds me of a game where after a few matches with a random, he, a friend and I went to play UUG.

Eventually, he switched to the batarian sentinel.
He used Submission Net alot, and subsequently, we all shot the easy targets. He was not happy with this and commented "I'm not your personal *** netter." Upon telling him to be quiet and play the co-op game, he did not speak a word for the rest of the game.

It was hilarious. He ragequit after the match.

[Atrumitos]

Schneidend wrote...

The Destroyer, Male Quarian, and Drell would like a word.

And they have every right to head to the box and get  resupplied, while I toss my own nades at the enemy, creating tech combos that give us killstreaks, or stripping bosses off their shields in one go and debuffing their armor, for when they return from their ammo run.


I personally feed destroyers with ammo and replant my pylons often enough, the nades are mostly mine though and if not, I just kick back and relax. I mean if I made their lives so much better that they feel entitled to spam nades, I might as well chill out, right? Their nades are so much better than mine after all, they probably can clear everything up without me doing crap. 

[Schneidend]

jamesaka11710 wrote...

This reminds me of a game where after a few matches with a random, he, a friend and I went to play UUG.

Eventually, he switched to the batarian sentinel.
He used Submission Net alot, and subsequently, we all shot the easy targets. He was not happy with this and commented "I'm not your personal *** netter." Upon telling him to be quiet and play the co-op game, he did not speak a word for the rest of the game.

It was hilarious. He ragequit after the match.

Let batarians punch stuff. You should be focusing on the enemies that are still running around shooting at you. <_<

[Destructo-Bot]

Sounds like the pylon should kick out 8 grenades and 8 Tclips... with only two of each being able to be picked up per player (so you can only take 1/4 of it's output at a time). Or kick out 4 Grenades/TCs with two of them only usuable for the demolisher and everyone else can fight for the scraps.

Problem solved.

Modifié par Destructo-Bot, 29 juillet 2012 - 06:20 .

[Schneidend]

Atrumitos wrote...

And they have every right to head to the box and get  resupplied, while I toss my own nades at the enemy, creating tech combos that give us killstreaks, or stripping bosses off their shields in one go and debuffing their armor, for when they return from their ammo run.


I personally feed destroyers with ammo and replant my pylons often enough, the nades are mostly mine though and if not, I just kick back and relax. I mean if I made their lives so much better that they feel entitled to spam nades, I might as well chill out, right? Their nades are so much better than mine after all, they probably can clear everything up without me doing crap. 

My objection was to the poster I quoted referring to non-Demolisher grenades as "puny," which is clearly not the case with powers like Multi-Frag. Besides, if you're concerned about conserving grenades, the Destroyer is just as capable of setting off Tech Burst killstreaks as you. Faster, even. This way, you'll only use half the grenades!

[WickedTruth 823]

Star fury wrote...

Dunno, when I play my Demolisher most people don't give a **** about pylon. They don't fill even ammo, and they don't use it power/weapon boosting sphere.

If I knew wether or not you're pylon was a boost for my weapon or power I would so use it. Destroyer likes to buff out his weapons any way he can lol.

[AshirahTSparkle]

Schneidend wrote...

AshirahTSparkle wrote...

We aren't called demolisher for nothing. We are supposed to demolish stuff... with our grenade and we do it a heck lot better than anyone else and their puny grenades.

The Destroyer, Male Quarian, and Drell would like a word.

Yet none of them can strip shields and turn armor into butter at the same time. My argument still stands, we demolish crap with our grenades

Modifié par AshirahTSparkle, 29 juillet 2012 - 06:23 .

[Atrumitos]

Schneidend wrote...

My objection was to the poster I quoted referring to non-Demolisher grenades as "puny," which is clearly not the case with powers like Multi-Frag. Besides, if you're concerned about conserving grenades, the Destroyer is just as capable of setting off Tech Burst killstreaks as you. Faster, even. This way, you'll only use half the grenades!

Not conserving nades. Every nade on the floor is a waste of time.

Still if he can do it that much better and faster, like they say the Quarian male can, then by all means, allow me to relax and let them do their own stuff and carry me. Promise I'll rez them when they need me to.

[bendermac]

at the op...

join a match and don't deploy the pylon... it's pretty funny how some players swarm around you in the hope you deploy 

Poulpor wrote...

You not a good teammate, i hope i never join your game.

If i have the demolisher, i do my best to refill my team and resupply the pilon every time the cooldown is on.
You also have 5 ammo capacity = 50 grenade

what? 50 grenades? my demo has 11 if i use grenade upgrade 5. 50 would be sweet though

Modifié par bendermac, 29 juillet 2012 - 06:26 .

[RamPuppy]

Demolisher = Support Character = Not allowed to play how you want.

Everyone thinking this - i salute your brilliant well thought out arguments for not allowing a class to be played with all its powers.

As i have said time and time again - i'll freesly share my grenades when you stop using all your powers and skills. cause thats what your asking.

[AshirahTSparkle]

WickedTruth 823 wrote...

 If I ever see OP in one of my lobbies he will be kicked to the curb quicker then he found his way in. Demolisher is a support class. NOT A DAMAGE DEALER. Done end of story. She is meant to feed a destroyer class along with the destroyer's Typhoon. Just like me and a bud did last night. He had a demolisher with a Typhoon and I had my destroyer out. You act like grenades are tottally epic and kill everything fast. Base characters maybe. 

Another Douchebag demolisher being greedy right here... 

Obviously never tried the Demolisher. I'd kick you out of the lobby instead. We are support + damage. we strip shields fast, we turn armor into butter, which means your Destroyer can use his Typhoon and missle launcher and grenades more effectively. Learn to be nice and share. You sound like the hoggers that the OP described in his first post

[WickedTruth 823]

Destructo-Bot wrote...

Sounds like the pylon should kick out 8 grenades and 8 Tclips... with only two of each being able to be picked up per player (so you can only take 1/4 of it's output at a time). Or kick out 4 Grenades/TCs with two of them only usuable for the demolisher and everyone else can fight for the scraps.

Problem solved.

I Approve this message lol... That mean's the demolisher/destroyer Combo could really work well together rather then it being a hassle trying to run support... 

I also had another Idea. If you got extra assist point by feeding your "TEAM" ammo, that might help the demolisher share more. 

[AldarionnEB]

RamPuppy wrote...

Demolisher = Support Character = Not allowed to play how you want.

Everyone thinking this - i salute your brilliant well thought out arguments for not allowing a class to be played with all its powers.

As i have said time and time again - i'll freesly share my grenades when you stop using all your powers and skills. cause thats what your asking.

Well said!

[Computron2000]

Wow so many demolishers seem to think they are better than everyone else. I think many QMEs are having a secret laugh

Modifié par Computron2000, 29 juillet 2012 - 06:31 .

[AldarionnEB]

WickedTruth 823 wrote...

Destructo-Bot wrote...

Sounds like the pylon should kick out 8 grenades and 8 Tclips... with only two of each being able to be picked up per player (so you can only take 1/4 of it's output at a time). Or kick out 4 Grenades/TCs with two of them only usuable for the demolisher and everyone else can fight for the scraps.

Problem solved.

I Approve this message lol... That mean's the demolisher/destroyer Combo could really work well together rather then it being a hassle trying to run support... 

I also had another Idea. If you got extra assist point by feeding your "TEAM" ammo, that might help the demolisher share more. 

I actually have a better idea than this.

Instead of putting ammo and grenades on the ground for everyone to pick up, how about making the pylon slowly regenerate ammo and grenades over time for anyone in the bubble? That way, everyone can use it, and nobody can be pissed at the demolisher for camping their own pylon. It would be a cleaner solution to this whole mess.

[Atrumitos]

Computron2000 wrote...

Wow so many demolishers seem to think they are better than everyone else. I think many QMEs are having a secret laugh

They can keep laughing while they're running to the nearest box