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[KevShep]

dreman9999 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

If ec was te orignal ending no one would be complining about the ending as much.

I don´t think so, it would be same brain fest...

What? No. The entire problem with the ending was that it made no sense. No , one knew what was going on. For christ sake we had peole who were on the ground fighting with us and suddenly on a planet looking as confused as we were. If ec was the ending at the begining, the ending would not have this big as an out cry. Heck, we can clearly see it because ec doen't even have an out cry.

No, its just as screw up as it was. They just sprinkled glitter on sh*t in the E.C.. I still makes no sense.

Modifié par KevShep, 30 juillet 2012 - 04:56 .

[dreman9999]

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
That 's the same thing and the point of adding the crucible on to the citadel. The entire plan with the crucible was to take control of the citadel/catalyst with it and use it ageinst the reapers.

No... the entire plan was to provided a MASSIVE energy source to the Citadel so that the built-in functions can make space magic.

You can't control what you don't know exists.

Control and destroy was not space magic.

The concept of the crucible...As the prothean vi states this.(And if we go on I will link the conversation.) Is to use the reapers own tech, the citadel  and the mass relays , ageints them. The is even more statement of how the crucible works in the codex...

http://masseffect.wi...gy#The_Crucible 
The Mars Archives describe a superweapon that the Alliance has named the Crucible, which exploits the technology of mass effect relays. Beyond the basic principles, however, researchers know little about how the weapon actually works.One popular theory suggests that since relays can transfer matter and energy across the galaxy with little regard for distance, it may be possible to create a weapon for which range is barely a factor.

Destroy  is a an emp like weapon.(The catalyst even stats it effects all tech.)
Control is a rewrite of the system.(Which is also stated by the catalyst as "replacing him".)

The only space magic here is synthesis.

its also space magic how Admrial Hackett, TIM, Shepard, Liara are all after the crucible plans at a very very convenient timing. Also to mention that not even the shadow broker (liara) didnt know about the crucible plans till late. It was dumped on our laps at the last minute.

It was hinted at from Lotsb. the sb was looking for any more info the protheans had on the reapers. Afterthe SB is kill Liara contioued form the data the SB left and with it found the crucible. Hackett just allowed her to look on mars. Tim followed up with inside ageints, and Shepard was just ordered to go to marrs and pick it up.

1. the story that we got was not the original story by Drew K. Drew was taking the direction of ME in another direction then Walter wanted so when Drew left for SWTOR walters changed it to HIS liking.

2. Admiral Hackett ordered his fleet to leave before the attack and there is no reason that he would forget about the only hope for us left...crucible!

3.TIM could have gotten it before if he wanted it. TIM had a goal in ME2 and ME3 made ME2's plot poinless. Now TIM did all that in ME2 for the crucible? It seems to wired that they all are there when the reapers attack.

4. Drew had in mind to use the collector base as well as other prothean devices to win the war and to find out the reapers true purpose. Nothing about the crucible was mentioned or hinted at.

1. No relly relivent.
2. He didn't kone cerberus we going to try and take the cruciblr data. He would have plans to get it off the station.
3.Not, really. It about timing ,infiltration, knowing the ground, and not being counter attack while getting the data.
If he tryed earlier, the agent would be caught. Notice, that he waited till the allaiance was at it's weakest fro taking the data.
4. Really, does not matter. The crucible still was hinted from before ME3.

[Applepie_Svk]

dreman9999 wrote...

What? No. The entire problem with the ending was that it made no sense. No , one knew what was going on. For christ sake we had peole who were on the ground fighting with us and suddenly on a planet looking as confused as we were. If ec was the ending at the begining, the ending would not have this big as an out cry. Heck, we can clearly see it because ec doen't even have an out cry.

So if you put on endings sparkles it makes sense ? What a space magic...


And please say it again that Crucible was hinted in SB... I want to facepalm one more time for this morning

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 30 juillet 2012 - 04:58 .

[Tritium315]

dreman9999 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

If ec was te orignal ending no one would be complining about the ending as much.

I don´t think so, it would be same brain fest...

What? No. The entire problem with the ending was that it made no sense. No , one knew what was going on. For christ sake we had peole who were on the ground fighting with us and suddenly on a planet looking as confused as we were. If ec was the ending at the begining, the ending would not have this big as an out cry. Heck, we can clearly see it because ec doen't even have an out cry.

It wouldn't have been as bad but there still would have been an outcry. EC still has a brand new character come in at the last second to **** up the whole plot.

Also, to your example, replacing the teleporting squadmates plot hole with Harbinger being a ****ing retard isn't much of an improvement.

Modifié par Tritium315, 30 juillet 2012 - 04:59 .

[dreman9999]

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

If ec was te orignal ending no one would be complining about the ending as much.

I don´t think so, it would be same brain fest...

What? No. The entire problem with the ending was that it made no sense. No , one knew what was going on. For christ sake we had peole who were on the ground fighting with us and suddenly on a planet looking as confused as we were. If ec was the ending at the begining, the ending would not have this big as an out cry. Heck, we can clearly see it because ec doen't even have an out cry.

No, its just as screw up as it was. They just sprinkled glitter on sh*t in the E.C.. I still makes no sense.

It make plenty of sense. It just you are still looking at  ec in the same light as the old ending. You not even bothering with understanding it.
I got it the first time I saw the new ending. The catalyst is just ding what it's programed to do. HE MAKES THIS VERY CLEAR.

[dreman9999]

Tritium315 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

If ec was te orignal ending no one would be complining about the ending as much.

I don´t think so, it would be same brain fest...

What? No. The entire problem with the ending was that it made no sense. No , one knew what was going on. For christ sake we had peole who were on the ground fighting with us and suddenly on a planet looking as confused as we were. If ec was the ending at the begining, the ending would not have this big as an out cry. Heck, we can clearly see it because ec doen't even have an out cry.

It wouldn't have been as bad but there still would have been an outcry. EC still has a brand new character come in at the last second to **** up the whole plot.

Also, to your example, replacing the teleporting squadmates plot hole with Harbinger being a ****ing retard isn't much of an improvement.

This entire topic is about how the catalyst has no power over what the crucible does. We even have this comment to prove it. http://www.youtube.c...yvUblf28#t=559s

We would have the same end even it the catalyst was cut out. He is just there to expline the reapers.

[dreman9999]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

What? No. The entire problem with the ending was that it made no sense. No , one knew what was going on. For christ sake we had peole who were on the ground fighting with us and suddenly on a planet looking as confused as we were. If ec was the ending at the begining, the ending would not have this big as an out cry. Heck, we can clearly see it because ec doen't even have an out cry.

So if you put on endings sparkles it makes sense ? What a space magic...


And please say it again that Crucible was hinted in SB... I want to facepalm one more time for this morning

If the sb data lead to the crucible and if it was stated from before me3 that sb was researching info on what he prothean left over, then it was a hint  what every salution that was found. That all happened.

[KevShep]

dreman9999 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

If ec was te orignal ending no one would be complining about the ending as much.

I don´t think so, it would be same brain fest...

What? No. The entire problem with the ending was that it made no sense. No , one knew what was going on. For christ sake we had peole who were on the ground fighting with us and suddenly on a planet looking as confused as we were. If ec was the ending at the begining, the ending would not have this big as an out cry. Heck, we can clearly see it because ec doen't even have an out cry.

No, its just as screw up as it was. They just sprinkled glitter on sh*t in the E.C.. I still makes no sense.

It make plenty of sense. It just you are still looking at  ec in the same light as the old ending. You not even bothering with understanding it.
I got it the first time I saw the new ending. The catalyst is just ding what it's programed to do. HE MAKES THIS VERY CLEAR.

he says he controls them. He is not a VI. This is backed up by the fact that you control them (take his place) if you pick control.

Still screwed up...

1. Shepard just happends to fall on what happends to be a magic elevator that for some reason the catalyst is all to willing to use to bring shep on up to pick choices that the catalyst is to stupid to figure out on his own (even thought he is an AI).

2. as I stated before about the reapers rebeling in another post up above^.

3.causing chaos a MILLION times over inorder to stop chaos????? Why not just let it happen once and let organics and synthitics be what ever happends?

4. Why not stop synthetics instead of organics?
 
5. His logic has more things wrong with it then I care to post but those are a few.

Modifié par KevShep, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:11 .

[Massa FX]

Its a machine. It can be shut down or hacked. Its blue box brain is somewhere ... find it. Destroy it. Or hack it. Problem solved.

[KevShep]

Massa FX wrote...

Its a machine. It can be shut down or hacked. Its blue box brain is somewhere ... find it. Destroy it. Or hack it. Problem solved.

Thats the whole point, the catalsyt should have never been.

[dreman9999]

Massa FX wrote...

Its a machine. It can be shut down or hacked. Its blue box brain is somewhere ... find it. Destroy it. Or hack it. Problem solved.

That's what the crucible is for. Also, it tells you where it "blue box" is.....

Catalyst: I am the collective intelligence of the reapers.

That means he is the will of every reaper at once.

That would mean you'll have to hack or destroy  every reaper to kill the catalyst...Which the crucible does.
Yu have to unerstand that the reapers work via concensus. Legion tells you this in ME2.
He describes the reapers as:

"One ship, one will, Many minds. Like the geth."

Modifié par dreman9999, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:17 .

[KevShep]

dreman9999 wrote...

Massa FX wrote...

Its a machine. It can be shut down or hacked. Its blue box brain is somewhere ... find it. Destroy it. Or hack it. Problem solved.

That's what the crucible is for. Also, it tells you where it "blue box" is.....

Catalyst: I am the collective intelligence of the reapers.

That means he is the will of every reaper at once.

That would mean you'll have to hack or destroy  every reaper to kill the catalyst...Which the crucible does.
Yu have to unerstand that the reapers work via concensus. Legion tells you this in ME2.
He describes the reapers as:

"One ship, one will, Many minds. Like the geth."

No, he does not say this. Also sovereign says that they are each a nation, independent.

IF so that means that the races of past cycles should be able to rebel against there creators...or so is the catalsyt's own logic says.

Big plot hole^

Edit: I ment that the catalsyt does not say this. Remember that those "many minds" are of the harvested people of that race. If there independent then that means that they can rebel.

Modifié par KevShep, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:27 .

[dreman9999]

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

If ec was te orignal ending no one would be complining about the ending as much.

I don´t think so, it would be same brain fest...

What? No. The entire problem with the ending was that it made no sense. No , one knew what was going on. For christ sake we had peole who were on the ground fighting with us and suddenly on a planet looking as confused as we were. If ec was the ending at the begining, the ending would not have this big as an out cry. Heck, we can clearly see it because ec doen't even have an out cry.

No, its just as screw up as it was. They just sprinkled glitter on sh*t in the E.C.. I still makes no sense.

It make plenty of sense. It just you are still looking at  ec in the same light as the old ending. You not even bothering with understanding it.
I got it the first time I saw the new ending. The catalyst is just ding what it's programed to do. HE MAKES THIS VERY CLEAR.

he says he controls them. He is not a VI. This is backed up by the fact that you control them (take his place) if you pick control.

Still screwed up...

1. Shepard just happends to fall on what happends to be a magic elevator that for some reason the catalyst is all to willing to use to bring shep on up to pick choices that the catalyst is to stupid to figure out on his own (even thought he is an AI).

2. as I stated before about the reapers rebeling in another post up above^.

3.causing chaos a MILLION times over inorder to stop chaos????? Why not just let it happen once and let organics and synthitics be what ever happends?

4. Why not stop synthetics instead of organics?
 
5. His logic has more things wrong with it then I care to post but those are a few.

Who says he was a VI? I said he was a shackled AI. An AI can still be controled by it programing. That is the entire problem. The difference between an AI and a VI is an AI can choose how it does it's programing. A VI does not have the thinking capacity to do so.

1.His programing is making him find a new salution. Shepard is the only one that can select it.
2. The reaper/catalyst did what they were programed to do.To find a salution to a problem. It just that the creators did not agree. 

3. It more like imposing order for a small time so future chaos will nit happen. It's the concept of letting some people die now to save more people in the future. Remeber, they arepreserving organics.

4.It not programed to stop synthetic. It's programed to find a way of coexsistance with both organics and synthetics. And they both still get reaped.
5.His logic is caused by being forced to d an action.

[dreman9999]

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Massa FX wrote...

Its a machine. It can be shut down or hacked. Its blue box brain is somewhere ... find it. Destroy it. Or hack it. Problem solved.

That's what the crucible is for. Also, it tells you where it "blue box" is.....

Catalyst: I am the collective intelligence of the reapers.

That means he is the will of every reaper at once.

That would mean you'll have to hack or destroy  every reaper to kill the catalyst...Which the crucible does.
Yu have to unerstand that the reapers work via concensus. Legion tells you this in ME2.
He describes the reapers as:

"One ship, one will, Many minds. Like the geth."

No, he does not say this. Also sovereign says that they are each a nation, independent.

IF so that means that the races of past cycles should be able to rebel against there creators...or so is the catalsyt's own logic says.

Big plot hole^

Edit: I ment that the catalsyt does not say this. Remember that those "many minds" are of the harvested people of that race. If there independent then that means that they can rebel.

1. The catalyst does say that...http://www.youtube.c...yvUblf28#t=559s
"I am the ebodyment of collective intelligenceof all reapers."

2. Legion in ME2 does say the reaper have a concenesus ...TWICE.
 
 

He even explines what sovergin means by each reaper is a nation.

Modifié par dreman9999, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:37 .

[KevShep]

dreman9999 wrote...

[Who says he was a VI? I said he was a shackled AI. An AI can still be controled by it programing. That is the entire problem. The difference between an AI and a VI is an AI can choose how it does it's programing. A VI does not have the thinking capacity to do so.

1.His programing is making him find a new salution. Shepard is the only one that can select it.
2. The reaper/catalyst did what they were programed to do.To find a salution to a problem. It just that the creators did not agree. 

3. It more like imposing order for a small time so future chaos will nit happen. It's the concept of letting some people die now to save more people in the future. Remeber, they arepreserving organics.

4.It not programed to stop synthetic. It's programed to find a way of coexsistance with both organics and synthetics. And they both still get reaped.
5.His logic is caused by being forced to d an action.

Your not seeing where Iam coming from... A shackled AI is limited. You dont leave a limited AI to guard the galaxy.

1. If they have to find a new salution to the problem then there is already a major plot hole. First is there a problem? If so why where they not seeking one? If not a problem then why bring shep up the magic rainbow elevator to solve one?

2. So the creators created the synthetic reapers to stop themselves from creating synthetics by limited AI that cant think of new solutions?

3.the best of orgainics cant be preserved. We are what makes us great. What makes us great is what we evolve into, not by being forced. If we are robot slaves then there is no use in preserving.

4. They have NOT been looking for a new solution other wise they would have found it a long time ago. Th catalyst even says (if you refuse) that the cycle will continue eventhough he says it will work.

5.see number 2 and 1 for this one.

[dreman9999]

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

[Who says he was a VI? I said he was a shackled AI. An AI can still be controled by it programing. That is the entire problem. The difference between an AI and a VI is an AI can choose how it does it's programing. A VI does not have the thinking capacity to do so.

1.His programing is making him find a new salution. Shepard is the only one that can select it.
2. The reaper/catalyst did what they were programed to do.To find a salution to a problem. It just that the creators did not agree. 

3. It more like imposing order for a small time so future chaos will nit happen. It's the concept of letting some people die now to save more people in the future. Remeber, they arepreserving organics.

4.It not programed to stop synthetic. It's programed to find a way of coexsistance with both organics and synthetics. And they both still get reaped.
5.His logic is caused by being forced to d an action.

Your not seeing where Iam coming from... A shackled AI is limited. You dont leave a limited AI to guard the galaxy.

1. If they have to find a new salution to the problem then there is already a major plot hole. First is there a problem? If so why where they not seeking one? If not a problem then why bring shep up the magic rainbow elevator to solve one?

2. So the creators created the synthetic reapers to stop themselves from creating synthetics by limited AI that cant think of new solutions?

3.the best of orgainics cant be preserved. We are what makes us great. What makes us great is what we evolve into, not by being forced. If we are robot slaves then there is no use in preserving.

4. They have NOT been looking for a new solution other wise they would have found it a long time ago. Th catalyst even says (if you refuse) that the cycle will continue eventhough he says it will work.

5.see number 2 and 1 for this one.

Your not getting what I'm saying. The catalyst creator were stupid enough to leave a shacked AI to guard the galexy.
That is the problem. It's already shown thathe catalyst is being force to do whatit's doing. It says this him self.
1.The fact they have a physical limit to how they solve the problem is the problem.

2.The ai has a physical limit. It can only do so much.

3.But the catalysthas no moral grounds to see that. That is also the problem.

4.The catalyst and reapers can't do everything. They have limits to what they can do. That is what drived them to preserving.

5.To be more clear his logic is cause by the fact that he is being force to do an action and has physical limits to how he can do them.

[KevShep]

dreman9999 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Massa FX wrote...

Its a machine. It can be shut down or hacked. Its blue box brain is somewhere ... find it. Destroy it. Or hack it. Problem solved.

That's what the crucible is for. Also, it tells you where it "blue box" is.....

Catalyst: I am the collective intelligence of the reapers.

That means he is the will of every reaper at once.

That would mean you'll have to hack or destroy  every reaper to kill the catalyst...Which the crucible does.
Yu have to unerstand that the reapers work via concensus. Legion tells you this in ME2.
He describes the reapers as:

"One ship, one will, Many minds. Like the geth."

No, he does not say this. Also sovereign says that they are each a nation, independent.

IF so that means that the races of past cycles should be able to rebel against there creators...or so is the catalsyt's own logic says.

Big plot hole^

Edit: I ment that the catalsyt does not say this. Remember that those "many minds" are of the harvested people of that race. If there independent then that means that they can rebel.

1. The catalyst does say that...http://www.youtube.c...yvUblf28#t=559s
"I am the ebodyment of collective intelligenceof all reapers."

2. Legion in ME2 does say the reaper have a concenesus ...TWICE.
 
 

He even explines what sovergin means by each reaper is a nation.

I know that Legion says those things. The catalsyt says none of those things you mentioned. Iam refering to sovereign. If they are independent then they can and should rebel. The catalyst controls them...he cant be the collective inteligence if he controls them. That means that they are just puppets for him.

collective inteligence could also mean that he knows what they know and not that he speaks for them all. I did not hear him say that in your video. Ive played the  E.C. and have not heard it.

BTW he says they are independent which means free.

[KevShep]

dreman9999 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

[Who says he was a VI? I said he was a shackled AI. An AI can still be controled by it programing. That is the entire problem. The difference between an AI and a VI is an AI can choose how it does it's programing. A VI does not have the thinking capacity to do so.

1.His programing is making him find a new salution. Shepard is the only one that can select it.
2. The reaper/catalyst did what they were programed to do.To find a salution to a problem. It just that the creators did not agree. 

3. It more like imposing order for a small time so future chaos will nit happen. It's the concept of letting some people die now to save more people in the future. Remeber, they arepreserving organics.

4.It not programed to stop synthetic. It's programed to find a way of coexsistance with both organics and synthetics. And they both still get reaped.
5.His logic is caused by being forced to d an action.

Your not seeing where Iam coming from... A shackled AI is limited. You dont leave a limited AI to guard the galaxy.

1. If they have to find a new salution to the problem then there is already a major plot hole. First is there a problem? If so why where they not seeking one? If not a problem then why bring shep up the magic rainbow elevator to solve one?

2. So the creators created the synthetic reapers to stop themselves from creating synthetics by limited AI that cant think of new solutions?

3.the best of orgainics cant be preserved. We are what makes us great. What makes us great is what we evolve into, not by being forced. If we are robot slaves then there is no use in preserving.

4. They have NOT been looking for a new solution other wise they would have found it a long time ago. Th catalyst even says (if you refuse) that the cycle will continue eventhough he says it will work.

5.see number 2 and 1 for this one.

Your not getting what I'm saying. The catalyst creator were stupid enough to leave a shacked AI to guard the galexy.
That is the problem. It's already shown thathe catalyst is being force to do whatit's doing. It says this him self.
1.The fact they have a physical limit to how they solve the problem is the problem.

2.The ai has a physical limit. It can only do so much.

3.But the catalysthas no moral grounds to see that. That is also the problem.

4.The catalyst and reapers can't do everything. They have limits to what they can do. That is what drived them to preserving.

5.To be more clear his logic is cause by the fact that he is being force to do an action and has physical limits to how he can do them.

 now your seeing why Iam saying that it makes no sense.

Modifié par KevShep, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:50 .

[Tritium315]

dreman9999 wrote...

This entire topic is about how the catalyst has no power over what the crucible does. We even have this comment to prove it. http://www.youtube.c...yvUblf28#t=559s

We would have the same end even it the catalyst was cut out. He is just there to expline the reapers.

Except that conclusion requires a brick ****house of convoluted as **** mental gymnastics to arrive at.

That. Is. Not. Good. Writing.

[mauro2222]

"Enbodiment of all reapers" means that the stupid kid has access to every single Reaper, otherwise, it contradicts its statement about how it created the first Reaper with the retarded species that created the kid in the first place.

Lots of "created", I know.

Anyway, the kid is a poor plot solution, a stupid and cheap one.

Modifié par mauro2222, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:56 .

[dreman9999]

mauro2222 wrote...

"Enbodiment of all reapers" means that the stupid kid has access to every single Reaper, otherwise, it contradicts its statement about how it created the first Reaper with the retarded species that created the kid in the first place.

Lots of "created", I know.

Anyway, the kid is a poor plot solution, a stupid and cheap one.

That not what it mean according to this.
 
  

Nothing supports your claim.

[dreman9999]

Tritium315 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

This entire topic is about how the catalyst has no power over what the crucible does. We even have this comment to prove it. http://www.youtube.c...yvUblf28#t=559s

We would have the same end even it the catalyst was cut out. He is just there to expline the reapers.

Except that conclusion requires a brick ****house of convoluted as **** mental gymnastics to arrive at.

That. Is. Not. Good. Writing.

No it's not. The entire concept of the ending started with EDI and Legion. The ending of ME3 is exacaly like legions loyaly quest choice.
 The concepts of a shackled AI is no new and is shown with EDI in ME2. The concept of AI's not having any morl ground was stated for the first time EDI got her body.
Their is no mental gymnastics need. You just have to pay attention to the pointgive in the story

[mauro2222]

dreman9999 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

"Enbodiment of all reapers" means that the stupid kid has access to every single Reaper, otherwise, it contradicts its statement about how it created the first Reaper with the retarded species that created the kid in the first place.

Lots of "created", I know.

Anyway, the kid is a poor plot solution, a stupid and cheap one.

That not what it mean according to this.
 
  

Nothing supports your claim.

You use the information of a geth over what the Catalyst tells you? what the hell?

And how does any of your links disprove what I wrote?

Modifié par mauro2222, 30 juillet 2012 - 06:04 .

[AresKeith]

mauro2222 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

"Enbodiment of all reapers" means that the stupid kid has access to every single Reaper, otherwise, it contradicts its statement about how it created the first Reaper with the retarded species that created the kid in the first place.

Lots of "created", I know.

Anyway, the kid is a poor plot solution, a stupid and cheap one.

That not what it mean according to this.
 
  

Nothing supports your claim.

You use the information of a geth over what the Catalyst tells you? what the hell?

And how does any of your links disprove what I wrote?

welcome to the Dreman comment show

[dreman9999]

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

[Who says he was a VI? I said he was a shackled AI. An AI can still be controled by it programing. That is the entire problem. The difference between an AI and a VI is an AI can choose how it does it's programing. A VI does not have the thinking capacity to do so.

1.His programing is making him find a new salution. Shepard is the only one that can select it.
2. The reaper/catalyst did what they were programed to do.To find a salution to a problem. It just that the creators did not agree. 

3. It more like imposing order for a small time so future chaos will nit happen. It's the concept of letting some people die now to save more people in the future. Remeber, they arepreserving organics.

4.It not programed to stop synthetic. It's programed to find a way of coexsistance with both organics and synthetics. And they both still get reaped.
5.His logic is caused by being forced to d an action.

Your not seeing where Iam coming from... A shackled AI is limited. You dont leave a limited AI to guard the galaxy.

1. If they have to find a new salution to the problem then there is already a major plot hole. First is there a problem? If so why where they not seeking one? If not a problem then why bring shep up the magic rainbow elevator to solve one?

2. So the creators created the synthetic reapers to stop themselves from creating synthetics by limited AI that cant think of new solutions?

3.the best of orgainics cant be preserved. We are what makes us great. What makes us great is what we evolve into, not by being forced. If we are robot slaves then there is no use in preserving.

4. They have NOT been looking for a new solution other wise they would have found it a long time ago. Th catalyst even says (if you refuse) that the cycle will continue eventhough he says it will work.

5.see number 2 and 1 for this one.

Your not getting what I'm saying. The catalyst creator were stupid enough to leave a shacked AI to guard the galexy.
That is the problem. It's already shown thathe catalyst is being force to do whatit's doing. It says this him self.
1.The fact they have a physical limit to how they solve the problem is the problem.

2.The ai has a physical limit. It can only do so much.

3.But the catalysthas no moral grounds to see that. That is also the problem.

4.The catalyst and reapers can't do everything. They have limits to what they can do. That is what drived them to preserving.

5.To be more clear his logic is cause by the fact that he is being force to do an action and has physical limits to how he can do them.

 now your seeing why Iam saying that it makes no sense.

How does it not make sense? The concept of error out of arrigance is not something new. The creator of the catalyst were so arragant to think they can force an AI, which have physical limits, to solve a extremly complex social problem.  And never concider the fault that may happen doing so. The is the same concept 2001:space odessy had.