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[Saans Shadow]

Great Idea!

[Draining Dragon]

ENOUGH WITH THESE KINDS OF THREADS!

THEY ARE CALLED ULTRA-RARES FOR A REASON!

Modifié par Draining Dragon, 30 juillet 2012 - 11:54 .

[Olivia Wilde]

How about making extraction worth a percent of the total payout..that only players who extract get?

[Descy_]

Draining Dragon wrote...

ENOUGH WITH THESE KINDS OF THREADS!

THEY ARE CALLED ULTRA-RARES FOR A REASON!

You know, I'm against having guaranteed URs in a pack, but I think this idea is nice.


Although, given that many people believe they wont ever get a promotional weapon to X (The N7 weapons), why not reward one level of one of those weapons instead of an ultra rare?

[ChickenDownUnder]

I really like this idea. Even encourages people to keep playing the game.

[FearTheCompany]

What about you just give us ultra rares if u have everything maxed

[FlameOfValour]

7arab7 wrote...

I've had people basically saying on mic just die (when I'm the only one still alive) which I get...

but sorry just cant do that !!!

We've been farming FBWGG and completed 10th wave objective but 3 of us died and there were still 2 more Primes to kill. The last one was a Salarian Infiltrator with a Javelin. He cloaked, fired a shot (sometimes missed), cloaked again and ran to the other side of the map where he was waiting for these Primes. Do I need to say we were very, VERY unhappy after 20 minutes of such a kiting?

Modifié par FlameOfValour, 30 juillet 2012 - 12:12 .

[Draining Dragon]

Descy_ wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

ENOUGH WITH THESE KINDS OF THREADS!

THEY ARE CALLED ULTRA-RARES FOR A REASON!

You know, I'm against having guaranteed URs in a pack, but I think this idea is nice.


Although, given that many people believe they wont ever get a promotional weapon to X (The N7 weapons), why not reward one level of one of those weapons instead of an ultra rare?

That makes sense. You get N7 weapons for completing N7 missions.

Modifié par Draining Dragon, 30 juillet 2012 - 12:13 .

[BlackbirdSR-71C]

I think this is a great idea!

Reminds me of a rumor I hear once: Appearantly, there's quite a few more store pack textures in the game files - one for each faction that you'd have probably received after completing a match against said faction. No clue what they'd have contained though.

Shame they had to drop that idea!

[nick91_99]

Im officially tired of opening thousands of spectre and premiun packs to get ammo. Ultra rares don't drop anymore. There's no reason I should still have the black widow 1. It's ok though might give the game a rest.

[Blackguard82]

I agree, extractions are just pointless right now (except weekend operations). This does sound like a nice idea.

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

LandoCalrisian wrote...

Problem with this idea is that to extract 100 Gold matches means an extra 200 minutes of play, which translates to about 10 gold farming gold matches, or 750000. Many of the people that purposely fail extraction might rather have 12 Spectre packs than an Ultrarare.

I think a better way to get EVERYONE trying for full extraction would be reducing the number of credits received in each match by 40% or so. Then, for each extracted member the team gets an extra 25%, up to double (the reduced) credits earned.

If gold currently earns 75000, in my new model would mean:

No Extraction : 45000
Sole survivor : 56250
2 survivors : 67500
3 survivors : 78750
full extraction: 90000


Note that if there's a griefer in the match who tries to screw it up for the rest of the team, everyone still gets a bit more than we get now.

This model would please all the current complainers, as it gives a 15000 credit bonus if everyone extracts and really would give everyone a reason to aim for full extraction.

Additionally, it wouldn't change the current difficulty level risk/reward balance at all (which seems to be a pretty good balance so far).

This idea I came up with is to exort people to play the game as it is supposed to be played
As I said, nothing will prevent farmers to play the way they like/enjoy(?)
This method is simply a choice, you can do it or not but your gaming experience won't be ruined if you suicide on wave 10
Extraction must give something that you can only obtain through fully complete the mission

Modifié par TrveOmegaSlayer, 30 juillet 2012 - 12:19 .

[Sniper21987]

hell no. n7 are weekend events.If u got all you UR max out then u are a credit glitcher/missile glitcher.

i seen people with there n7 max out there obvious cheaters who modified the code

[Lividliver]

Millafan4526 wrote...

How about making extraction worth a percent of the total payout..that only players who extract get?

I'm pretty sure they would have thought about something like this too.The way I see it,there are 2 ways to go about it.

Incentive for extracting or disincentive for not extracting.

What you are suggesting is the latter.IMO,while that is a viable "solution",it is the cheap,unimaginative and aggravating kind.

If we do it your way,it might make players become more self-centered(ie only caring that they themselves extract).As long as I get those creds,I can't be bothered if you did so you are on your own if you go down,I'm not gonna move from my camp spot to revive you.

Another similar suggestion in the past was to make make the number of people in the team who extract successfully represent the percentage of earnings gained at the end.For example,if 3 out of 4 members extract,only 3/4(75%) will be awarded to all of them.This will eliminate skipping out on extraction and might create greater teamwork in the process.HOWEVER,this makes carrying bad players to the end a very fustrating and blood boiling experience.Could ya you know...die less?So that I don't have to run around reviving you lest you get curbed stomped and we loose 1/4 of the payout?With banshee magnet hands thrown in,there will be an uproar.

One more important point to note is that there is currently a strong demand for credits to be immediately awarded upon completion of the objectives.Implenting either of the aforementioned disincentives will defeat the purpose of such a push.

Modifié par Lividliver, 30 juillet 2012 - 12:18 .

[DNC Protoman]

Sniper21987 wrote...

hell no. n7 are weekend events.If u got all you UR max out then u are a credit glitcher/missile glitcher.

i seen people with there n7 max out there obvious cheaters who modified the code

lol idiot.

[greghorvath]

@OP: Nice idea, even if similar thoughts have been previously been expressed here on the BSN. The token system you describe would not make me deliberately stay the extraction (although I almost invariable do fight for it with the current system already - just because I can). The reward system you calculate provides me with a worse drop rate (1UR / 7 million credits) than what we have now. Hardly an incentive...

LandoCalrisian wrote...
*snip*

Horrible idea to reduce rewards in any way. However, if the system included a percentual addition to the current rewards, for example +5-10% for every person alive, that would perhaps make people stay the run. Stress on perhaps.

@the poor guy capslocking above: Please refrain from engaging in a similar discussion until you at least max out your uncommons... Even better would be if you just kept quiet until your rares are maxed. Or at least unlocked...

Modifié par greghorvath, 30 juillet 2012 - 12:45 .

[MikeSlackenerny]

If they are to implement this then it becomes imperative to fix the extraction bug on Firebase Jade.

[nicethugbert]

/signed

[Blackguard82]

MikeSlackenerny wrote...

If they are to implement this then it becomes imperative to fix the extraction bug on Firebase Jade.

What bug?

[GGW KillerTiger]

MikeSlackenerny wrote...

If they are to implement this then it becomes imperative to fix the extraction bug on Firebase Jade.

Yea heaven forbid BioWare actually does something for the community for once and does their jobs.

[Sniper21987]

i just check u profile protoman u an obvious cheater.

Modifié par Sniper21987, 30 juillet 2012 - 12:28 .

[Blackguard82]

/signed

[Chealec]

Sniper21987 wrote...

hell no. n7 are weekend events.If u got all you UR max out then u are a credit glitcher/missile glitcher.

i seen people with there n7 max out there obvious cheaters who modified the code

Wait ... what?

The N7 (promotional) weapons are NOT URs ... they are promotional weapons tied to the weekend events.

URs are available in packs and it IS possible to max out your URs if you're prepared to do almost nothing but private matches on White/Glacier platinum and only ever buy the odd JEP when you run out of missiles.

I know someone who's got every UR at X except the Typhoon without hacking the coalesced file (he's on PC so no rocket glitches) ... just lots and lots of private platinum games (and gold before that).

I could post the link to his manifest but I'm not gonna do that without asking his permission first... *shrugs*

[Sniper21987]

and the n7 ones. i seen 5 players so far in my time playing having all there n7 max out. reported all 5 of them

[DHKany]

+1 For sure, but I didn't quite understand the first concept.
You said 50 tokens for platinum, 100 for gold, 150 for silver and 200 for bronze until an ultra rare is given. I didn't quite understand how many tokens wold be awarded per dificulty level and wat would happen if you just played mixed difficulties.