Nice polls, Earendil. Thanks for putting them up.
Wrex = lives
Suicide Mission = everyone lives
Save Samara/kill Morinth.....I couldn't even kill Smara on my single Renegade playthrough, lol
VS = lives through Citadel Coup
Mordin = died....I cried like a freaking baby
Thane = Needs an option to liveWhat's really obvious from the results so far is that most players
will save their squadmates when the option is presented. Mordin is the exception to the rule, because you can only save him if: A--Wreav is alive (and Wrex would be dead), B--the player destroyed Maelon's data on Tuchanka (renegade option, I think), which resulted in Eve's death. What's also really obvious...big surprise....is that
players like happy endings!
As for Thane, while there are already many thread on this topic, and I don't want to hijack this thread, I do have a few comments...1. Non-romancers of Thane tend to like his death and handling in ME3, as it flows quite well with his non-romanced character in ME2. Especially if you went renegade. That is fact. However, there is another fact. That fact is that the character continutity between a romanced ME2 Thane and a romanced ME3 Thane is quite broken, and was handled horribly by the ME3 writers.
2. This is exactly the reason that an option to save him should be given -- because
his storyline takes a dramatic fork upon romancing him. Having a single conclusion available to the character, when his behavior changes so radically upon romancing him, doesn't make sense in context of his story, as a whole. In contrast, having 2 different outcomes, one that matches the behavior of Thane as a friend and as LI, would make the most sense.
3. The only other instance in the series that is remotely similar to what BW did with Thane, is the event on Virmire with Kaidan/Ashley. BW does force a squadmate in the game to die. Likely for emotional impact and realism. HOWEVER, the player still gets to choose which one dies, and therefore, can chose the one that is not their LI (if either are).
Interestingly, BW backpedaled a bit on this in ME2, and allowed players the option to get through the "Suicide" Mission without requiring
any squadmates/LIs to die. I think that this explains one facet of why many players were surprised and displeased with Thane's unavoidable death in ME3. If that player started with ME2, they had never even experienced the mandatory death of Kaidan/Ash on Virmire. It's logical for them to think that if the entire crew could survive the supposed suicide mission in the previous game, that
something would come up that would enable them to save Thane in ME3. Especially considering the foreshadowing present in ME2 that provided BW the appropriate avenues to do so.
4. For players that think saving Thane in the game just would not be plausible due to the "terminal" nature of his condition, I offer the following:
A. Shephard was brought back from the dead. Literally.
B. Asari exchange DNA through some type of mating ritual that involves "melding" of their nervous systems with other individuals. Whatever that means.
C. A cure for the genophage was found, which apparently needed to alter the DNA in every cell of every krogan. If you know anything about biology and genetics, this would be exceedingly difficult to do.
D. The Synthesis Ending requires ridiculous amounts of space magic and challenges even the most dedicated RPer's suspension of disbelief.
Honestly, a lung transplant, artificial lungs, drug, or gene therapy regimen that could at the very least extend Thane's life are all completely plausible and likley, in comparison to the above.
In my opinion, using the logic of "oh you know he was terminal" in light of the above is a cop out. Anyone who doesn't have issues with any of the above, shouldn't have issues with implementing some option of a cure/life extension for Thane.
The best solution to such a divided player-base is to give both camps what they want. Considering that allowing players to determine the course of the story is what ME has been about since it's inception, this should not be a ridiculous or unexpected request. The conclusion of Thane's story in ME3 should have more than 1 outcome, similar to the fate of other squadmates in the ME series.Sigh. The formatting on these forums is seriously starting to irritate me.
Modifié par giftfish, 30 juillet 2012 - 06:46 .