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[Blind2Society]

Rokayt wrote...

Technically, using it on a geth would make it fire exactly as I have proprosed buffing it...

Strange as me using this on a GI was what made me start this thread. Even on the GI I feel it needs an RoF buff and even another round per clip.

I'm going to give it a run on the destroyer and see how the 25% RoF increase is. Wish I could try the 25% increase and the three rounds per clip at the same time.

[joker_jack]

I like the wraith, how ever the wraith is another example of the problem many of ur's in the game being outclassed by rares or uncommons. Still though not as bad as how the eagle is still out performed by a phalanx of the same level.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

My Slayer makes extensive use of it, as does my Kroguard.

It is, however, a skosh underpowered for what it is.
It's nowhere near as bad as the completely-and-utterly-worthless Paladin in this regard, however.

Modifié par JaimasOfRaxis, 05 août 2012 - 11:58 .

[TCGwasHERE]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

My Slayer makes extensive use of it, as does my Kroguard.

It is, however, a skosh underpowered for what it is.
It's nowhere near as bad as the completely-and-utterly-worthless Paladin in this regard, however.

The Paladin is worthless? Interesting

[Blind2Society]

So I just gave it a shot on my Destroyer to see the RoF difference and I think the 35% RoF bonus is perfect. I don't have the magazine upgrade so I didn't get the extra round.

However, I did notice that the damage this thing puts out is extremely underwhelming even with the 15% damage bonus. I would switch to my harrier when I ran out of wraith ammo (both level V) and it was totally dominating the wraith. The harrier would kill a ravager in a clip and a half to two clips. The wraith point blank was taking like 6-10 rounds to kill.

My conclusion is without TC and proxy this gun is pretty much garbage as it is. I know many will disagree but after a round with it on my destroyer it really was underwhelming even though I scored 120k.

EDIT: I thought I should add that I used grenade capacity V, targeting VI III and disruptor rounds IV. I don't think eqipment should be a factor but I felt I should add it just for the hell of it.

Oh yeah, I had smart choke and shredder mod btw.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 06 août 2012 - 12:45 .

[TCGwasHERE]

Blind2Society wrote...

So I just gave it a shot on my Destroyer to see the RoF difference and I think the 35% RoF bonus is perfect. I don't have the magazine upgrade so I didn't get the extra round.

However, I did notice that the damage this thing puts out is extremely underwhelming even with the 15% damage bonus. I would switch to my harrier when I ran out of wraith ammo (both level V) and it was totally dominating the wraith. The harrier would kill a ravager in a clip and a half to two clips. The wraith point blank was taking like 6-10 rounds to kill.

My conclusion is without TC and proxy this gun is pretty much garbage as it is. I know many will disagree but after a round with it on my destroyer it really was underwhelming even though I scored 120k.

EDIT: I thought I should add that I used grenade capacity V, targeting VI III and disruptor rounds IV. I don't think eqipment should be a factor but I felt I should add it just for the hell of it.

Oh yeah, I had smart choke and shredder mod btw.

Switch to Shock Trooper Package V, Shotgum Amp 3, Armor Piercing Ammo 4 and use damage/accuracy and the wraith is completely different.  No wonder you don't like it,  you don't know what you're doing with it.

[Bolo Xia]

i use to hate the wraith too, but it is highly useful on a GI just because the accuracy bonus that GI has over other Infiltrators.
mine is only a 4 i think, cause im to lazy to click manifest atm.

after i started viewing this gun as a mini claymore, the gun actually made more sense to me.
on the GI with choke it is actually very accurate at range (shot spread i mean), it can decently get headshots at long range.
i have only used it on silver tho, it was a decent 1 shot on most low tier enemies, but i dunno how good it would be on gold. maybe at rank 10 it would be good or decent on gold.

of course this is only my opinion on the gun, i also need to play around with it more often since i use to avoid it.

Modifié par Bolo Xia, 06 août 2012 - 07:30 .

[TCGwasHERE]

Bolo Xia wrote...

i use to hate the wraith too, but it is highly useful on a GI just because the accuracy bonus that GI has over other Infiltrators.
mine is only a 4 i think, cause im to lazy to click manifest atm.

after i started viewing this gun as a mini claymore, the gun actually made more sense to me.
on the GI with choke it is actually very accurate at range (shot spread i mean), it can decently get headshots at long range.
i have only used it on silver tho, it was a decent 1 shot on most low tier enemies, but i dunno how good it would be on gold. maybe at rank 10 it would be good or decent on gold.

of course this is only my opinion on the gun, i also need to play around with it more often since i use to avoid it.

with a Targeting VI 3 the gun is basically a 2 shot sniper that ignores shieldgate.  i love the wraith, it's one of my fav guns

[IronRush]

But still, being an ultra rare weapon, need RoF buff at least.

[Titus Thongger]

Compared to the reload canceling claymore and the pirhana, the wraith might as well fire bubbles

[Blind2Society]

TCGwasHERE wrote...

Switch to Shock Trooper Package V, Shotgum Amp 3, Armor Piercing Ammo 4 and use damage/accuracy and the wraith is completely different.  No wonder you don't like it,  you don't know what you're doing with it.

Gear and consumables should not be a factor, if the gun is underperforming without them it needs a buff.

Also, you can thank the RNG for my lack of shock trooper gear and shotgun amps.

[nicethugbert]

The ROF is boring on this weapon.

[Booshnickins]

I have it at IX and use it on my Demolisher as my main weapon and absolutely love it. I never bothered using it until I got it at IX. I actually complained every time I got too. Now I'm trying desperately to get it at X.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...
It's nowhere near as bad as the completely-and-utterly-worthless Paladin in this regard, however.

What?  My justicar uses the paladin.  I don't see anybody complaining about the Carnifex, and the M-77 Paladin is just a more powerful Carnifex.  However, I think the Wraith could use a slight damage increase.

[IronRush]

I think most problematic aspect is rof. But a small damage buff will be great too.

[donosaur]

Pretty much only works on my Kroguard as a clean-up weapon following a charge. Depending on it for my main damage output doesn't suit my playstyle, but then again I suck with the Claymore, too.

[Homey C-Dawg]

I guess I'll say the same thing in this thread as I say in all "buff wraith" threads...

Wraith is my favorite shotgun in the game (not counting the Talon). By the time I started getting it leveled up (I'm at X now), I started liking it even more than my beloved Claymore.

So go ahead and buff it. Just make my favorite shotgun even better. No skin off my nose.

[Blind2Society]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

I guess I'll say the same thing in this thread as I say in all "buff wraith" threads...

Wraith is my favorite shotgun in the game (not counting the Talon). By the time I started getting it leveled up (I'm at X now), I started liking it even more than my beloved Claymore.

So go ahead and buff it. Just make my favorite shotgun even better. No skin off my nose.

After my recent Destroyer-with-a-wraith match, the 35% RoF bonus was absolutely perfect. However, even with the damage bonus it really was very undewhelming damage-wise.

I say it absolutely needs a 35% RoF boost and, I hesitate to say, both a damage boost and another round per clip. Though, if it got the first two I could probably live without the extra round.

As it is, there really is no reason to choose it over the Talon.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

The M-77 Paladin is a strong candidate for "Worst Gun In This Game," not for reasons of quality (there the Geth Pulse Rifle wins "Most useless" award), but for the fact that its existence is soul-crushingly pointless. The Carnifex is better in every category, providing 200% recharge, better per-clip damage, and only slightly less friepower, and the Carnifex doesn't have the mortal sin of being an Ultra-Rare under its belt.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Blind2Society wrote...

After my recent Destroyer-with-a-wraith match, the 35% RoF bonus was absolutely perfect. However, even with the damage bonus it really was very undewhelming damage-wise.

I say it absolutely needs a 35% RoF boost and, I hesitate to say, both a damage boost and another round per clip. Though, if it got the first two I could probably live without the extra round.

As it is, there really is no reason to choose it over the Talon.

I don't think it has any damage issues at all myself, though I'm always in CQC and therefore always hitting guys in the head with all eight pellets. A lot of it is that I just really like the feel of the gun.

The reason I don't compare it to the Talon is not because Talon is a pistol, but because Talon is imo the most versatile gun in the game (and is also my all around favorite gun). I just don't feel it's really fair to other shotguns to compare them to the Talon's epicness.

[TCGwasHERE]

Blind2Society wrote...

As it is, there really is no reason to choose it over the Talon.

The Wraith absolutely destroys the Talon in Range.  The Talon is more effective at CQC but a GI or any Infiltrator or Human Soldier can Wreck with the Wraith across the map.  

Modifié par TCGwasHERE, 07 août 2012 - 10:57 .

[sliven020]

Talon kills the Wraith.

[Prawny]

I have it at IX, and it is by far my favourite shotgun.
But they either need to get rid of the stupid delay before reload (which must be a bug), or buff it slightly to counter it ¬.¬

[sliven020]

TCGwasHERE wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

As it is, there really is no reason to choose it over the Talon.

The Wraith absolutely destroys the Talon in Range.  The Talon is more effective at CQC but a GI or any Infiltrator or Human Soldier can Wreck with the Wraith across the map.  

Actually, I've seen the opposite. The Wraith may have range but the Talon has better accuracy.

[IronRush]

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