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Preservation - Reaper - [JAM THEORY]


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Look at this picture : 

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Do you see ? 

glass
fruit
JAM

What we have realy preserved from original fruits ? Color, taste or smell ? We used the sugar, vinegear, water, fruits - little bit fire - to create final form - JAM. We have to squash fruits, mix them with sugar and other stuff, but that´s no more that same fresh fruit, it´s different, changed - we change it to use it for another time, taste is different, form is different.

Ask yourself, why we are preserving fruits in form of JAM? 
- to use it in different form

Now look at these pictures:

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Do you see now ? 

glass / hull
JAM /  humans + AI
fruit / humans 
together - Reaper

We are nothing more for Reapers than these fruits from above... they luquified us and whatever we will become it´s no longer a person, it´s just maybe DNA but nothing more.

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Do you think that all those victims would like to kill whole civilizations only because they were uplifted ? None would...
Reapers do it only because they can - it´s very questionable what was realy preserved from that former victims - most probably just a genetic code, but if they kept the minds of their victims they would probably start shooting each other.

Purpose of life is to live - enjoy all those chalanges: finish the school, start work, find a love, family, children ... and not to become some kind of abomination which would live for eternity and commit genocide upon the innocent people.

Legion mentioned that speaking with Nazara was like speaking with many organic minds - overwhelming, but ask yourself again - what organics would commit such acts upon the others ?
None is answer, what left from their bodies was either mindwashed or AI found a way to synthesize hardware with organic material, well they already prove it that they can do it .

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This was gift from Reapers for Geths, it´s look like organic brain - what if it´s realy point why they are ''preserving us'' their poverhungry AI found a way to gain knowlendge of organics and yet keep the form which they want.
Geths were building Dyson sphere to achieving such a level of intelligence, they could be at same level like Reapers but they would be limited by connection to this structure, in danger from destrucion of Sphere. 
Reapers have such Dyson Sphere in each of them, what if so called "preservation" is just a way to use our genetic material - for creating super computer for AI ?

From what we could see in game, the AI will sooner or later achieve own hardware maximum which will limit their processing power, what if synthesis of AI and genetic material can improve those levels into new highs ?

And now ask yourself, why Reapers "preserve" organic life ?
 - to use it in different form

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Motivation of Catalyst - Reapers:

Why the Catalyst need so much synthesis ? Well if we are going from these few facts:
- Legion : connection with Reaper was overwhelming, like a speaking with thousands of organics at once
- Catalyst : I control the Reapers 
- Catalyst : The Reapers preserving organic life in Reaper form
- Catalyst : I am collective intelligence of Reapers
- Catalyst : Harvest own creators in order to creat first true Reaper, despite that they did no aproved


Now little bit speculations:
- Organics - are individuals by merging them into Reaper form you are taking from them their freedom, they must be controlled or mindwhashed, if they had any kind of control over Reaper body they would rebelled against Catalyst.
- Catalyst - Organics: Catalyst must have full control over Reapers, to prevent any kind of rebelion which he also proved right, when he harvested his creators which did not aproved, in order to create first true Reaper.

Why is synthesis best solution ?
It´s not best solution for us, but for him - everyone in the cycle will gain unkown space magic - Reaper technology which proved to be unhealty for minds, bodies of its victims - every single which gained such a technology has changed into husk.

Why the Catalyst was looking for synthesis ?
Reproduction - gaining control over bodies of organics, as he said - organics have limits, synthetics have none if you allow them to defeat organics. He was trying similliar solutions but he always failed - in order to achieve synthesis or what he called synthesis he was looking for balance which would alter bodies of organics in level which wouldn´t harm whole body but  he always end in huskdoom. If Organics present chaos and synthetics order, than without full control over former organics would chaos prevail even after synthesis.


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Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 09 mars 2013 - 09:25 .


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Applepie_Svk

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*FTL BUMP*

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F4H bandicoot

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Whut?

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What, is this the new IT?

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A, kasna dobra marmalada, zaradi nju, pogresem mojo drzavo.

OP just wants Mass Effect fans to buy European-imported marmelade.

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I prefer jelly.

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Conniving_Eagle

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JaceBelerin wrote...

I prefer jelly.


It is jelly...

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Applepie_Svk

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SSPBOURNE wrote...

What, is this the new IT?


It´s more like Marmelade theory ... :sick:

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

A, kasna dobra marmalada, zaradi nju, pogresem mojo drzavo.

OP just wants Mass Effect fans to buy European-imported marmelade.

 

Where are you from eagle ? 

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 30 juillet 2012 - 02:38 .


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F4H bandicoot

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

JaceBelerin wrote...

I prefer jelly.


It is jelly...


Only in America...

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SSPBOURNE wrote...

What, is this the new IT?

Marmalade theory. It exists now.

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

SSPBOURNE wrote...

What, is this the new IT?


It´s more like Marmelade theory ... :sick:

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

A, kasna dobra marmalada, zaradi nju, pogresem mojo drzavo.

OP just wants Mass Effect fans to buy European-imported marmelade.

 

Where are you from eagle ? 


Slovenia, the country that so many Americans mistake with yours Posted Image

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It's all about jam man!

Well, jam, clotted cream and scones with coffee actually

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

A, kasna dobra marmalada, zaradi nju, pogresem mojo drzavo.

OP just wants Mass Effect fans to buy European-imported marmelade.


Conspiracy!

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Discouraged_one wrote...

It's all about jam man!

Well, jam, clotted cream and scones with coffee actually


Gotta be sat with the queen too :o

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...


Slovenia, the country that so many Americans mistake with yours Posted Image


I thought so xD 

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JaceBelerin

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I was under the impression marmelade still had bits of fruit in it where jelly did not. I'm used to processed jelly anyway.

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Yeah, we Americans get this wonderful processed stuff...which actually is closer to what op is saying.

Anyway, this all makes sense. Cool story.

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...


Slovenia, the country that so many Americans mistake with yours Posted Image


I thought so xD 

Some folks have difficulty understanding that Slavic people come from different places, I live in the US so most people assume Russian.

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Greylycantrope wrote...


Some folks have difficulty understanding that Slavic people come from different places, I live in the US so most people assume Russian.


This hurts me ... :crying: :kissing:

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SSPBOURNE wrote...

What, is this the new IT?


No it proves it though.

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Greylycantrope wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...


Slovenia, the country that so many Americans mistake with yours Posted Image


I thought so xD 

Some folks have difficulty understanding that Slavic people come from different places, I live in the US so most people assume Russian.


ROFL, yeah I get that too. I currently live in the US, so I get it a lot. I don't have an accent, but when I mention where I'm from, they're like "Oh yeah, doesn't that border Russia or something?"

The next time my nationality comes up. "Oh yeah, didn't you go back to Slovakia last summer?"

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...


Some folks have difficulty understanding that Slavic people come from different places, I live in the US so most people assume Russian.


This hurts me ... :crying: :kissing:

I usually correct them, tell them I'm from Poland, a few have asked what the difference is, so at least they're trying to learn :lol:

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The liquefied colonists of Freedom's Progress deserve a better ending. :P

I want that as a sig banner with a picture of a strawberry milkshake.

Modifié par ZerebusPrime, 30 juillet 2012 - 03:00 .


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Greylycantrope wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...


Some folks have difficulty understanding that Slavic people come from different places, I live in the US so most people assume Russian.


This hurts me ... :crying: :kissing:

I usually correct them, tell them I'm from Poland, a few have asked what the difference is, so at least they're trying to learn :lol:


I shudder to think how America's kids are taught geogra[hy if that is the case..

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This going little bit off-topic xD But guys realy what do you think ? :D