The Piranha must fall...
#226
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:22
#227
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:23
DNC Protoman wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
DNC Protoman wrote...
godlike13 wrote...
Jack Crapper wrote...
I see a lot of people who complain about the Piranha being OP, citing how amazing it is on a GI. They also call for an encumbrance increase to compensate. However, weight doesn't matter that much to the classes which make the gun shine, such as the Destroyer, GI, or Turian Soldier.
This would only prevent caster classes from using the Piranha, and I don't understand how that would make the gun less effective in the hands of the weapons based classes, which is what most people complain about and use for examples of how a gun is "OP".
Exactly. Increasing its weight would just take it out of the hands of caster classes like Vanguards, and keep it in the hands of Infiltrators and Soldiers. The gun was made for "light-boded species".
exactly correct. Increasing weight solves nothing. It needs to have RoF, Clip size / reserve and or damage decreases in some combination.
Solves NOTHING. Then you are required to have a GI, Destroyer and Turian to use it.
Solves EVERYTHING actually.
Making it useful for only three classes solves everything? I'm beginning to suspect that what you fear is another GI nerf, but no one wants to remove more of the damage bonuses from hunter mode, what many of us are suggesting is removing the accuracy bonus from certain powers for shotguns only.
Modifié par Killahead, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:23 .
#228
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:23
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The Pihrana is a super short range, high damage shotty. its meant to be that way. To use it effectivly, you gotta be right up in bosses faces, and getting IKO'd all the time >.>
#229
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:23
I still use the Claymore. It is still useful even though I have the Piranha.
#230
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:23
robarcool wrote...
[Well, he is lying when he says about his 'prediction' that Krysae would cause TC nerf. He actually wanted TC nerf so that Krysae was left untouched. The guy has double standards, plain and simple.
Wrong, I said that constant complaining about Krysae would lead to TC being nerfed. And it did.
#231
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:24
DNC Protoman wrote...
its THAT guy wrote...
godlike13 wrote...
Shut up, just shut up.
X1000000.
OP is one of the ones who rendered the Krysae useless I bet. Now he wants the piranha to follow. Please dear sir, STFU and gtfo of BSN.
Nay, for I have battled the dark lord of the Nerf for all my days
But this piranha monstrousity will bring ruination to classes and be nerfed regardless after said class nerfing. Just as the Krysae did. The cycle must be stopped before darkness falls...
DNC, you have won me over with your illustrious speech. The Piranha has ravaged too many of our sacred matches, and must be purged. We cannot stand divided against this menace.
#232
Guest_Air Quotes_*
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:25
Guest_Air Quotes_*
Immortal Strife wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
It's MADE for HUMANS. It's made for close range caster classes. It's just that GI, Destroyer and Turian makes it into a sniper rifle with insane ROF. The same would be with AT-12 Raider. And every shotgun - new or old.
Disable accuracy bonuses for shotguns only. Problem fixed.
Negative, RoF and accuracy power classes are not the only classes that the Pirahna shines on. It beasts on classes that have crowd control powers such ballistic blades, overload, cryo, and reave, etc. You simple cast a power to stun a group then spray your 8 shot clip and wipe out the whole group. It will be dominate on any poe snuff, some examples are snapfreeze, warp, cryo, tac scan, charge, etc. Ad you can see the Pirahna is beast on almost every class. A nerf is needed.
Same with Reegar. But you gotta get up close. With GI, Turian and Destroyer you don't have to.
#233
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:25
Well in your words: 'Dark heart of nerfers called TC been cut out' or something similar.DNC Protoman wrote...
robarcool wrote...
[Well, he is lying when he says about his 'prediction' that Krysae would cause TC nerf. He actually wanted TC nerf so that Krysae was left untouched. The guy has double standards, plain and simple.
Wrong, I said that constant complaining about Krysae would lead to TC being nerfed. And it did.
#234
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:25
Dest1ny wrote...
Far too overpowered? Stop spouting rubbish please. Its accuracy seriously isn't that great at long ranges, how does that make it OP? It makes it a SHOTGUN. If you're shooting from long ranges and manage to kill something, you've wasted your time because it could've been done much quicker with a different weapon.
Christ, just make it a UR and that'll stop the apparent whiners.
It is far too OP, accurate med to long range with smart-choke and weighs very little while outdamaging basically everything.
It needs toned down and changing rarity solves nothing.
#235
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:26
Dest1ny wrote...
Christ, just make it a UR and that'll stop the apparent whiners.
I'd be fine with that
#236
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:26
DNC Protoman wrote...
Wrong, I said that constant complaining about Krysae would lead to TC being nerfed. And it did.
The TC nerf was the best thing Bioware ever did to this game. No way should one power be the best damage and best ultility power at the same time... it truely was a glorious day for balance.
#237
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:26
#238
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:26
Anytime any gun in the game is remotely worth using it is nerfed into the ground.
This gets boring and old fast.
Don't we already have 100 worthless guns? There are two fun shotguns worth using without the claymores insane weight.
In space, in the future, 99% of guns will be lame as hell. Let's go after the good ones till they all suck equaly.
#239
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:27
robarcool wrote...
Well in your words: 'Dark heart of nerfers called TC been cut out' or something similar.DNC Protoman wrote...
robarcool wrote...
[Well, he is lying when he says about his 'prediction' that Krysae would cause TC nerf. He actually wanted TC nerf so that Krysae was left untouched. The guy has double standards, plain and simple.
Wrong, I said that constant complaining about Krysae would lead to TC being nerfed. And it did.
A foolish out of context qoute by a defeated man. Give up, the pirahna's getting fixed..
#240
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:27
DNC Protoman wrote...
Dest1ny wrote...
Far too overpowered? Stop spouting rubbish please. Its accuracy seriously isn't that great at long ranges, how does that make it OP? It makes it a SHOTGUN. If you're shooting from long ranges and manage to kill something, you've wasted your time because it could've been done much quicker with a different weapon.
Christ, just make it a UR and that'll stop the apparent whiners.
It is far too OP, accurate med to long range with smart-choke and weighs very little while outdamaging basically everything.
It needs toned down and changing rarity solves nothing.
Kill the accuracy bonuses on it then, so it's always a short range weapon, even for Destroyer / Turian / GI.
No smart choke, and no racial / power bonus.
Modifié par Aethyl, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:27 .
#241
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:27
Drunkencelt wrote...
In space, in the future, 99% of guns will be lame as hell. Let's go after the good ones till they all suck equaly.
The Nerfers are indoctrinated... explains everything.
#242
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:29
It is a co-op game. We are on the same team. Score does not do anything but stroke your imaginary online ego. Go back to call of duty and battlefield 3 where you belong nerfers. Stop trying to ruin our game because your ego got hurt by being outscored
#243
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:30
Give up. your arguments are all false and your fighting for this weapon because you want to continue running aroud with an all-powerfull end-all that invalidates everything else. It's not going to happen.
Better that it gets balanced to be a good weapon without causing any other nerfs than it stays a gamebreaker.
#244
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:30
born2beagator wrote...
I don't use the Piranha at all. I can't stand it. However its the principle of the thing that makes me so mad at these numbskulls.
It is a co-op game. We are on the same team. Score does not do anything but stroke your imaginary online ego. Go back to call of duty and battlefield 3 where you belong nerfers. Stop trying to ruin our game because your ego got hurt by being outscored
The Piranha is to ME3 as Tim Tebow was to Florida Gator football... it cannot be stopped.
#245
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:31
TMB903 wrote...
Here we go again with this ****...The gun is only effective on a few classes and pretty hard to use on others as well...The Krysae was usable on any class because it has no spread to compensate for...Make the piranha heavier
Wrong. It is effective on every class because of its low weight, RoF, clip size, and damage. I challenge you to go play with it on any class and you will see that your production increases, I assure you.
Modifié par Immortal Strife, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:31 .
#246
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:31
DNC Protoman wrote...
I'll just make a mass post to all defending this gun:
Give up. your arguments are all false and your fighting for this weapon because you want to continue running aroud with an all-powerfull end-all that invalidates everything else. It's not going to happen.
Better that it gets balanced to be a good weapon without causing any other nerfs than it stays a gamebreaker.
Maybe you should give up trying to be supreme ruler of the community? The balance change hasn't happened yet, so until it is assume nothing will be true.
#247
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:32
Bioware may adjust it, and if they do I'll still try it to see how it works. If it still fits, I'll keep using it. If not I'll find another solution for close range.
#248
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:32
born2beagator wrote...
I don't use the Piranha at all. I can't stand it. However its the principle of the thing that makes me so mad at these numbskulls.
It is a co-op game. We are on the same team. Score does not do anything but stroke your imaginary online ego. Go back to call of duty and battlefield 3 where you belong nerfers. Stop trying to ruin our game because your ego got hurt by being outscored
For 100th time, it's not about score but eliminating any outstanding "crutches" in order to maintain the difficulty barriers. Also piranha is effecitve on every single class because it is the highest DPS gun currently.
Modifié par Morgax_Warrior, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:32 .
#249
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:32
DNC Protoman wrote...
I'll just make a mass post to all defending this gun:
Give up. your arguments are all false and your fighting for this weapon because you want to continue running aroud with an all-powerfull end-all that invalidates everything else. It's not going to happen.
Better that it gets balanced to be a good weapon without causing any other nerfs than it stays a gamebreaker.
Nerf the GI... problem solved. Gun is much more balanced on the other classes it thrives on due to their lack of mobility and situational awareness.
#250
Posté 30 juillet 2012 - 05:32
Let me try and wrap my head around just what you are asking here: You are requesting yet another nerf to a weapon class that you " feel is boring" to play with right?
Wait! Before you answer the question here let me ask you a few additional questions. I believe once I have a better picture as to why you are continuing to post this same kind of thread as others, I will need to have a few questions answered here.
1) What system do you play on?
2) How many friends do you have on your friends list?
3) What is your current understanding of Co-Op vs MP games. And are you aware there is a difference between the two?
4) Please explain what character class do you most often play with?
5) What level match do you often play on?
6) Do you own a Mic and if so do you use it often during game play?
7) What has been your gaming experience and how long have you been playing video games as a whole?
8) What other games do you currently own that you play regularly?
9) Do you own the said weapon and what level is it at currently?
10) What is your future plans as far as playing ME3 if your demands are not satisfied?
I am willing to bet that once you answer the above questions and I supply you with my answers you'll have a better understand as to why the majority of players on the site are not in agreeance. Then maybe we will not have to see this topic show up again. Well at least not from you!




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