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[megawug]

It was like the Reegar when it first came out. Everyone and their dog was using it, for better or worse, so BW nerfed it. Now I see most people use the Piranha.

After BW looks at the stats they collected, they will likely nerf the Piranha. They nerfed infiltrators based on their popularity, so it makes sense.

Modifié par megawug, 30 juillet 2012 - 06:12 .

[Rickochet101]

Do what you like with it, but leave its current stats for platinum players. This gun was meant to be used there.

[Omnifarious Nef]

Immortal Strife wrote...

SimulatedSnowman wrote...

I could see it's weight going up. Still, it's not so light that I would entertain the thought of using it on a caster class. The AA's that take a Piranha I would group into the same category of AA's that use Revenants/Widows i.e. doing it wrong. Yes, I take it on most classes that are not reliant on a cooldown, but even that is a pretty specific niche.

Calling for nerfs because a weapon is good is ridiculous. Comparing it to another weapon, and then saying that because of that weapon a whole class was nerfed is a huge jump.

Who needs cooldowns when the dps from a Pirahna will out perform Biotic explosions? Yes, it may seem odd but putting the Pirahna on an AA is the logical choice right now and thats the issue with the Pirahna and the whole point of this thread, it's too good and too light, it needs to be nerfed.

Well, you got the Kyrsae nerfed out of existence, after you get the Piranha nerfed out of existence, what's next? My beloved Harrier? The Typhoon? The Talon? What's next on the "Kill it" agenda?

[OblivionDawn]

Needs a slight weight increase and nothing more.

/thread

[Madeline Lightning]

 Why do you fools always want stuff nerfed? why can't you just STOP ruining the game for others. Damn noobs and damn developers for being so horrible at their job that they listen to you. A professional in the business listening to amateurs on a forum. Thank god real game studios don't cater to the amateurs.  

[LukC]

Madeline Lightning wrote...

 Why do you fools always want stuff nerfed? why can't you just STOP ruining the game for others. Damn noobs and damn developers for being so horrible at their job that they listen to you. A professional in the business listening to amateurs on a forum. Thank god real game studios don't cater to the amateurs.  

THIS!

Stupid nerfers ruin all the fun. How many weapons are crap now. Isn't a weapon suppose to ..hmm KILL!!

[Immortal Strife]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

SimulatedSnowman wrote...
I could see it's weight going up. Still, it's not so light that I would entertain the thought of using it on a caster class. The AA's that take a Piranha I would group into the same category of AA's that use Revenants/Widows i.e. doing it wrong. Yes, I take it on most classes that are not reliant on a cooldown, but even that is a pretty specific niche.
Calling for nerfs because a weapon is good is ridiculous. Comparing it to another weapon, and then saying that because of that weapon a whole class was nerfed is a huge jump.

Who needs cooldowns when the dps from a Pirahna will out perform Biotic explosions? Yes, it may seem odd but putting the Pirahna on an AA is the logical choice right now and thats the issue with the Pirahna and the whole point of this thread, it's too good and too light, it needs to be nerfed.

Well, you got the Kyrsae nerfed out of existence, after you get the Piranha nerfed out of existence, what's next? My beloved Harrier? The Typhoon? The Talon? What's next on the "Kill it" agenda?

Nobody wanted Bioware to destroy the Krysae to the point it is now, overnerfing is a different subject and does not change my opinion on the Pirahna needing a tweek.

[Morgax_Warrior]

We are reaching critical mass, few more pages and this thread will explode.
So much:hate,anger,desperation,ingorance.
The Dark side is strong in this thread

[LoboFH]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Well, you got the Kyrsae nerfed out of existence, after you get the Piranha nerfed out of existence, what's next? My beloved Harrier? The Typhoon? The Talon? What's next on the "Kill it" agenda?

All you, anoying anti-nerfers conveniently hide the truth to your convenience. What about the Talon in your angry rant?, it was heavily buffed some time ago with a weight reduction, now is the perfect weapon for any caster. I guess you didn't complain back there.  

It's very "cool" and demagogic to be a member of the anti-nerf crusade, but buffs and nerfs are the bread and butter of any multiplayer game. The anti-nerf side sounds like a bunch of noisy individuals trying to defend their noob friendly toys.

[Omnifarious Nef]

Immortal Strife wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

SimulatedSnowman wrote...
I could see it's weight going up. Still, it's not so light that I would entertain the thought of using it on a caster class. The AA's that take a Piranha I would group into the same category of AA's that use Revenants/Widows i.e. doing it wrong. Yes, I take it on most classes that are not reliant on a cooldown, but even that is a pretty specific niche.
Calling for nerfs because a weapon is good is ridiculous. Comparing it to another weapon, and then saying that because of that weapon a whole class was nerfed is a huge jump.

Who needs cooldowns when the dps from a Pirahna will out perform Biotic explosions? Yes, it may seem odd but putting the Pirahna on an AA is the logical choice right now and thats the issue with the Pirahna and the whole point of this thread, it's too good and too light, it needs to be nerfed.

Well, you got the Kyrsae nerfed out of existence, after you get the Piranha nerfed out of existence, what's next? My beloved Harrier? The Typhoon? The Talon? What's next on the "Kill it" agenda?

Nobody wanted Bioware to destroy the Krysae to the point it is now, overnerfing is a different subject and does not change my opinion on the Pirahna needing a tweek.

Really? I recall quite a few rejoycing over the nerf talking like DNC here. "Oh joyous day! The balance has finally returned to the force!" And the such on the balance changes.

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 30 juillet 2012 - 06:24 .

[DNC Protoman]

Dest1ny wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Dest1ny wrote...

Far too overpowered? Stop spouting rubbish please. Its accuracy seriously isn't that great at long ranges, how does that make it OP? It makes it a SHOTGUN. If you're shooting from long ranges and manage to kill something, you've wasted your time because it could've been done much quicker with a different weapon.

Christ, just make it a UR and that'll stop the apparent whiners.  

It is far too OP, accurate med to long range with smart-choke and weighs very little while outdamaging basically everything. 

It needs toned down and changing rarity solves nothing.

Wrong, it isn't. I would kill something quicker with an Avenger than I would than the Piranha at med-long range. I tried it. Works on big targets (of course) but smaller targets? No. 

Wrong, it changes a lot. Won't see it being an X so often thus the whining won't be so crazy as it is now. In addition to that, it's an UR, it's supposed to be reasonably strong. Justifies it. 

It isn't overpowered, it's powerful. You're using the incorrect terms. The damage and rate of fire shouldn't be touched. Weight? Maybe, just to stop people from complaining so much. Maybe make it so it's not so strong in the early levels but keeps its current level 10 strength when it is level 10. Again, just to stop the complaints. Eventually we're going to end up having a useless weapon in our hands again.

BW will mess with the classes regardless, they seem enjoy editing stuff we didn't expect and didn't truly believe needed touching. Then take a long time to edit the stuff that we actually report on that needs consideration and alterations. They seem to get half their editing ideas from 'data' (really good approach >_>). Seems just as bad as EA/DICE's data 'telemetry' fiasco approach. <_<

JohnDoe, it's Silver, come on now. What class was he, what was his build, what weapon mods was he using and what gear/equipment was he using? Oh, and what was the weapon level. Loads of variables.  

You are etiher lying to protect it or unaware of it's function.

[Atrumitos]

Your opinion is flawed anyway. The weapon doesn't outperform biotic explosions. Mostly because they are aoe, they are done across the map and they make stuff go flying, while the powers apply debuffs in the first place.

Regardless, feel free to whine over it enough and let bioware nerf yet another weapon to the ground. You have everything X so I'm sure you have replacements for it.

LoboFH wrote...

The anti-nerf side sounds like a bunch of noisy individuals trying to defend their noob friendly toys.

 

Good lord, the pro has spoken. Everyone pack up your toys and go home! This game is serious business for pr0s only! Defeating bots is hard work and shouldn't be fun! It should be annoying!

Modifié par Atrumitos, 30 juillet 2012 - 06:28 .

[Omnifarious Nef]

LoboFH wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Well, you got the Kyrsae nerfed out of existence, after you get the Piranha nerfed out of existence, what's next? My beloved Harrier? The Typhoon? The Talon? What's next on the "Kill it" agenda?

All you, anoying anti-nerfers conveniently hide the truth to your convenience. What about the Talon in your angry rant?, it was heavily buffed some time ago with a weight reduction, now is the perfect weapon for any caster. I guess you didn't complain back there.  

It's very "cool" and demagogic to be a member of the anti-nerf crusade, but buffs and nerfs are the bread and butter of any multiplayer game. The anti-nerf side sounds like a bunch of noisy individuals trying to defend their noob friendly toys.

Woah, woah there buddy, what hole did you crawl out of? Who said I was anti nerf? I'm anti weapon destroying. You didn't see me complain over the TC nerf at all. I just don't want every new gun that's added to be nerfed into being just a bit worse than the Claymore.

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 30 juillet 2012 - 06:27 .

[AxStapleton]

To be honest, why do we want things nerfed? It's fair enough if ME3 was a PvP and people were getting an unfair advantage but its CO-OP. I love it when other people on my team have overpowered weapons. It improves your chances of getting XP (where everyone gets the combined score of all the players) and credits (where everyone in the game gets the same amount). You people won't be happy until everything is the same as the Predator.

[Urdnot Loksta]

Here we ****ing go again. The TC was nerfed because of all the babies saying they wanted infiltrators to be either a damage powerhouse or a ****ing medic. It's not the fault of a weapon that a power gets nerfed. What a stupid point to try to bring up.

[megabeast37215]

NeferiusX3 wrote...
 Really? I recall quite a few rejoycing over the nerf talking like DNC here. "Oh joyous day! The balance has finally returned to the force!" And the such on the balance changes.

I rejoiced over the TC nerf and the Krysae nerf... they were both long overdue...

That said... even though I hate the Krysae about as much as I hate my worst enemy... I still feel the nerf was excessive. The weapon literally has no niche now... it has been made worthless. The Falcon is superior in everyway to it now.

[DNC Protoman]

LoboFH wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Well, you got the Kyrsae nerfed out of existence, after you get the Piranha nerfed out of existence, what's next? My beloved Harrier? The Typhoon? The Talon? What's next on the "Kill it" agenda?

All you, anoying anti-nerfers conveniently hide the truth to your convenience. What about the Talon in your angry rant?, it was heavily buffed some time ago with a weight reduction, now is the perfect weapon for any caster. I guess you didn't complain back there.  

It's very "cool" and demagogic to be a member of the anti-nerf crusade, but buffs and nerfs are the bread and butter of any multiplayer game. The anti-nerf side sounds like a bunch of noisy individuals trying to defend their noob friendly toys.

The Talon is fine, it ( and every other wep) are nowhere near the Pirahna's level.

[LeandroBraz]

DNC Protoman wrote...

My brothers, we have battled tooth and nail agianst the mighty nefer onslaught.  We have seen glorious victory and bitter defeat. 

Now we see the Piranha.  A weapon so powerful it instantly invalidates any other means of attack or strategy.  It destroys class and weapon variety as it has worked it's way into nearly every match on nearly every character.  With it's lightweight and extreme power it dominates all.   But see it for what it truly is.

A dark omen.  Yes it is a blight.  It is overpowered.  Far too overpowered.  This is troublesome as it may lead to class nerfs just as the Krysae before it did.  Remember how the overpowered Krysae destroyed your TC snipers my brothers.  Know that very same Krysae has abandoned you, and left in it's wake a hollow ineffective shell of  a weapon while the bitter and unholy TC nerf remains.

The piranha will do the same.  We cannot allow this.  We must stand with the Nerfers as brothers in arms until this abominiation is balanced.  We must do so before it is too late...

Remain ever vigilant my allies.  We must destroy this overpowered shotgun before it destroys us...

 funny, but this will make the idea that there's a group of nerfers out there even stronger. Plus, if I was Bioware, I would buff the weapon just to let clear that BSN don't have the last word on it. Yeah, I can't be responsible for things like that, I would break it..

 And the krisae wasn't the reason TC was nerfed, it was for exactly the same thing you are saying the piranha is doing, TC was making people play only with infiltrators, killing the variety of the game. No, they couldn't just buff everything else...

[Urdnot Loksta]

Madeline Lightning wrote...

 Why do you fools always want stuff nerfed? why can't you just STOP ruining the game for others. Damn noobs and damn developers for being so horrible at their job that they listen to you. A professional in the business listening to amateurs on a forum. Thank god real game studios don't cater to the amateurs.  

My point exactly. Bioware let's all these idiots dictate what they should "balance" by seeing who cries the loudest. TC, Krysae, and now piranha nerfers have been the ones drowning the forum in tears these past 2 weeks...

[Rickochet101]

[LennethValkyrie]

All this nerf this nerf that makes me sick.. it's like this forum has become a chat about nerfs and buffs..
Can't people just enjoy the game..?
Whenever I see a nerf requesting topics I instantly imagine some butthurt guy who got outscored by some kid using said weapon.. sorry but this is the idea you give me..

[N7 Spectre525]

Someone should have nerfed the OP's mother.

[Rosalina is my BabyCakes]

Morgax_Warrior wrote...

We are reaching critical mass, few more pages and this thread will explode.
So much:hate,anger,desperation,ingorance.
The Dark side is strong in this thread

man your avi is badass 

[Grub Killer8016]

The Piranha must 'not' fall.

There, fixed it.