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[Dendio1]

Why do we fall bruce?

[PanzerGr3nadier]

SmobTehHash wrote...

 Have you seen these forums when you suggest balancing an OP weapon? They will personally attack you, call you a jealous baby, then claim you have no life and are a homosexual. 

People do not like to give up their toys!

This, I don't have Piranha but I've been proud Anti-Nerfer since the days of TC-War.

Hold on dear friends, "Balance Changes" are coming soon... Lastest attack was 7 days ago so its here pretty soon and when it finally comes.... BSN will once again spill their own blood...

Modifié par PanzerGr3nadier, 31 juillet 2012 - 01:33 .

[KalilKareem]

DNC Protoman wrote...

egueguen wrote...

stop trying to kill other peoples fun for your selfish reasons

its already useless on the majority of classes, no need to get them to make it useless on all the classes

what would have been the propose of making the gun in the first place

Such BS in this post.  It is the best possible weapon you can carry on ALL the classes.

This. We made some gold runs last night with a team all using Piranah's (classes irrelevant). It was absolutely rediculous. This weapon alone trivializes gold and make platinum far too easy (I would rate gold geth without Piranhas as more difficult than random-random platinum WITH Piranha's).

And it _is_ by far the best weapon to equip on any class (who cares if my CD's goes down to 170%. I can MELT Atlases and Banshees with this thing). The representation of Piranah's in lobbies goes way above and beyond the level of following that the pre-nerf Krysae got.

Im not calling for a nerf par-se, I dont care either way. But it will happen. 

[DNC Protoman]

PanzerGr3nadier wrote...

SmobTehHash wrote...

 Have you seen these forums when you suggest balancing an OP weapon? They will personally attack you, call you a jealous baby, then claim you have no life and are a homosexual. 

People do not like to give up their toys!

This, I don't have Piranha but I've been proud Anti-Nerfer since the days of TC-War.

Hold on dear friends, "Balance Changes" are coming soon... Lastest attack was 7 days ago so its here pretty soon and when it finally comes.... BSN will once again spill their own blood...

For now we must stand fast with the nerfers.  This gun will lead to ruination if allowed to remain.  We must strike it from the land post-haste.

[Badpanzer]

DNC Protoman wrote...

egueguen wrote...

stop trying to kill other peoples fun for your selfish reasons

its already useless on the majority of classes, no need to get them to make it useless on all the classes

what would have been the propose of making the gun in the first place

Such BS in this post.  It is the best possible weapon you can carry on ALL the classes.

What a load of rubbish lol.

Piranha is good at close range but not good enough to replace the Talon for an Asari adept and its utterly useless at range with or without smartchoke.
Some classes can use the gun well but many classes still have much better choices available and not everyone is a close combat king,leave the poor thing alone.

[godlike13]

DNC Protoman wrote...

PanzerGr3nadier wrote...

SmobTehHash wrote...

 Have you seen these forums when you suggest balancing an OP weapon? They will personally attack you, call you a jealous baby, then claim you have no life and are a homosexual. 

People do not like to give up their toys!

This, I don't have Piranha but I've been proud Anti-Nerfer since the days of TC-War.

Hold on dear friends, "Balance Changes" are coming soon... Lastest attack was 7 days ago so its here pretty soon and when it finally comes.... BSN will once again spill their own blood...

For now we must stand fast with the nerfers.  This gun will lead to ruination if allowed to remain.  We must strike it from the land post-haste.

LoL, "we must stand fast with the nerfers.". Don't try to play it off like ur not a nerfer. Doesn't work like that. U are a nerfer now. So just like every other nerfer scum, do us all a favor and just shut up.

Modifié par godlike13, 31 juillet 2012 - 01:46 .

[DNC Protoman]

Badpanzer wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

egueguen wrote...

stop trying to kill other peoples fun for your selfish reasons

its already useless on the majority of classes, no need to get them to make it useless on all the classes

what would have been the propose of making the gun in the first place

Such BS in this post.  It is the best possible weapon you can carry on ALL the classes.

What a load of rubbish lol.

Piranha is good at close range but not good enough to replace the Talon for an Asari adept and its utterly useless at range with or without smartchoke.
Some classes can use the gun well but many classes still have much better choices available and not everyone is a close combat king,leave the poor thing alone.

Negative.

[DNC Protoman]

godlike13 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

PanzerGr3nadier wrote...

SmobTehHash wrote...

 Have you seen these forums when you suggest balancing an OP weapon? They will personally attack you, call you a jealous baby, then claim you have no life and are a homosexual. 

People do not like to give up their toys!

This, I don't have Piranha but I've been proud Anti-Nerfer since the days of TC-War.

Hold on dear friends, "Balance Changes" are coming soon... Lastest attack was 7 days ago so its here pretty soon and when it finally comes.... BSN will once again spill their own blood...

For now we must stand fast with the nerfers.  This gun will lead to ruination if allowed to remain.  We must strike it from the land post-haste.

LoL, "we must stand fast with the nerfers.". Don't try to play it off like ur not a nerfer. Doesn't work like that. U are a nerfer now. So just like every other nerfer scum, do us all a favor and just shut up.

I have battled the Dark Nerfer God King and his minions in their dark lair and foiled their unholy plots time after time.  I see this Piranha shotgun for what it is- a dark source of nerfs to class abilities that will itself be nerfed after said abilities are destoyed.  I combat that darkness.

[HashimSharif]

' I am your father' krysae
'Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' Piranha

[DNC Protoman]

HashimSharif wrote...

' I am your father' krysae
'Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' Piranha

Indeed....Indeed....

[lagruej]

It's not overpowered, you guys just suck, I play in games with Piranha users all the time and I never fall behind, try finding better players to be with. It was the same thing with the Krysae... and the Falcon before that.... Never did any of those weapons seem overpowered to me... just because somebody can kill alot doesn't mean they should be nerfed... everybody's XP is added at the end and everybody gets it anyway? Who cares if it's overpowered... people are ruining this game legitimately, no gun was overpowered, no class or powers were overpowered, you were just a bunch of babies.

[godlike13]

DNC Protoman wrote...

godlike13 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

PanzerGr3nadier wrote...

SmobTehHash wrote...

 Have you seen these forums when you suggest balancing an OP weapon? They will personally attack you, call you a jealous baby, then claim you have no life and are a homosexual. 

People do not like to give up their toys!

This, I don't have Piranha but I've been proud Anti-Nerfer since the days of TC-War.

Hold on dear friends, "Balance Changes" are coming soon... Lastest attack was 7 days ago so its here pretty soon and when it finally comes.... BSN will once again spill their own blood...

For now we must stand fast with the nerfers.  This gun will lead to ruination if allowed to remain.  We must strike it from the land post-haste.

LoL, "we must stand fast with the nerfers.". Don't try to play it off like ur not a nerfer. Doesn't work like that. U are a nerfer now. So just like every other nerfer scum, do us all a favor and just shut up.

I have battled the Dark Nerfer God King and his minions in their dark lair and foiled their unholy plots time after time.  I see this Piranha shotgun for what it is- a dark source of nerfs to class abilities that will itself be nerfed after said abilities are destoyed.  I combat that darkness.

No, ur just a nerfer now. Nerfer. So just shut it already.

Modifié par godlike13, 31 juillet 2012 - 02:24 .

[Gethzilla-N7SP]

I really like the N7 Piranha.

In fact, this was the first shotgun that I liked to use, because it is the ultimate weapon with ammunition penetrating III (or IV), mainly in the hands of a N7 Destroyer (using the Stronghold Pack V + Cyclonic Modulator III), when the size clip increases from 8 to 12 and the firing rate decreases significantly.

The reason is simple. It was fun to use a shotgun.

I think people should worry less about the damage of a good gun and its frequency of fire and instead, seek to improve the damage of weapons useless, as are the SMGs and some sniper rifles - unfairly - as krysae rifle , who suffered two cuts damage and rate of fire.

Also, should not forget that the enemies were also improved, increasing their shields and health, but the old weapons are still the same, making them even more obsolete.

[DNC Protoman]

UkranyannBR wrote...

I really like the N7 Piranha.

In fact, this was the first shotgun that I liked to use, because it is the ultimate weapon with ammunition penetrating III (or IV), mainly in the hands of a N7 Destroyer (using the Stronghold Pack V + Cyclonic Modulator III), when the size clip increases from 8 to 12 and the firing rate decreases significantly.

The reason is simple. It was fun to use a shotgun.

I think people should worry less about the damage of a good gun and its frequency of fire and instead, seek to improve the damage of weapons useless, as are the SMGs and some sniper rifles - unfairly - as krysae rifle , who suffered two cuts damage and rate of fire.

Also, should not forget that the enemies were also improved, increasing their shields and health, but the old weapons are still the same, making them even more obsolete.

The piranha can be nerfed to make it fair and weak weapons can be improved upon.  Fair compromise

[DNC Protoman]

godlike13 wrote...

No, ur just a nerfer now. Nerfer. So just shut it already.

Nay, I am the holy paladin grand Arc-Knight of your salvation.  Speak not herasey onto me.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

DNC Protoman wrote...

Here is what needs to happen to the Piranha ASAP

1.) Clip size reduced

2.) Spare Ammo reduced

3.) RoF reduced

4.) Weight Increased.

Do all those changes to a moderate degree and the weapon will still be good and useable, just not the gamebreaker it is now.

Stop exaggerating and stop trolling.
The gun isn't game breaking, but it is a little too powerful.  Either a slight reduction in damage or ROF might be called for, but not both, let alone all 4 of the above.

As I've mentioned before, the weight will not solve anything, as it will ONLY then be usable by those classes who make it shine and aren't dependant on cooldown bonus.  Taking away the accuracy bonus on certain classes for shotguns only was a good idea.  That would also help a lot.

[JGDD]

DNC Protoman wrote...

despite all the people lying to defend the most OP weapon imaginable[...]

Got numbers to back that statement up?

[Omnifarious Nef]

DNC Protoman wrote...

godlike13 wrote...

No, ur just a nerfer now. Nerfer. So just shut it already.

Nay, I am the holy paladin grand Arc-Knight of your salvation.  Speak not herasey onto me.

When ever I hear Nerfer, I always think they're refering to me, Nefer.

[Omnifarious Nef]

Jack Crapper wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Here is what needs to happen to the Piranha ASAP

1.) Clip size reduced

2.) Spare Ammo reduced

3.) RoF reduced

4.) Weight Increased.

Do all those changes to a moderate degree and the weapon will still be good and useable, just not the gamebreaker it is now.

Stop exaggerating and stop trolling.
The gun isn't game breaking, but it is a little too powerful.  Either a slight reduction in damage or ROF might be called for, but not both, let alone all 4 of the above.

As I've mentioned before, the weight will not solve anything, as it will ONLY then be usable by those classes who make it shine and aren't dependant on cooldown bonus.  Taking away the accuracy bonus on certain classes for shotguns only was a good idea.  That would also help a lot.

Yes, increasing it's weight will only make the weapon viable for weapon platform classes. But removing the accuracy buff, will bring the weapon platform classes more in line with the non weapon platform classes, and it will remain useful for all.

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 31 juillet 2012 - 04:59 .

[Gethzilla-N7SP]

DNC Protoman wrote...

UkranyannBR wrote...

I really like the N7 Piranha.

In fact, this was the first shotgun that I liked to use, because it is the ultimate weapon with ammunition penetrating III (or IV), mainly in the hands of a N7 Destroyer (using the Stronghold Pack V + Cyclonic Modulator III), when the size clip increases from 8 to 12 and the firing rate decreases significantly.

The reason is simple. It was fun to use a shotgun.

I think people should worry less about the damage of a good gun and its frequency of fire and instead, seek to improve the damage of weapons useless, as are the SMGs and some sniper rifles - unfairly - as krysae rifle , who suffered two cuts damage and rate of fire.

Also, should not forget that the enemies were also improved, increasing their shields and health, but the old weapons are still the same, making them even more obsolete.

The piranha can be nerfed to make it fair and weak weapons can be improved upon.  Fair compromise

I really do not think they should change something in N7 Piranha.
May increase the weight of the gun, but it only.

Contextualized within the "Mass Effect Universe":

When an armaments factory creates a weapon more effective than those that are on the market, this is a technological advantage. NEVER a disadvantage. If the other shotguns show up below, the problem is not the N7 Piranha. You can not expect the "N7 Weaponry Factory", reduce the destructive power of N7 Piranha, when the enemies become more difficult to overcome.

Ancient weapons are no longer used when they become inefficient and that is what is happening in the game now. The logic would be that the "manufacturers" of the other weapons improve their models, they continue to compete in the market.

I think the Alliance, as well as their own arms factory would send an official note with a resounding "NO!"

So NO, I do not agree that the gun should be impaired in their efficiency in the game, as well as consider other weapons that were "spoiled" as Krysae Sniper, should have their damage parameters and rate of fire original restored.

[Black zr1]

UkranyannBR = logic with lore. Excellent post sir.

What the op seems to not understand is, if the Pirahna gets nerfed, other classes must too.
ROF decrease-Devastator Mode and Marksman ROF increase cancels it.
Accuracy decrease-Above's accuracy increase cancels it.
Weight increase-more usage of Destroyer class, which will most likely lead to a nerf for everything in said class (GI nerf and TC nerf for example) and possibly further (yet unlikely) nerf of TC
Damage decrease-Devastator Mode, Marksman, and Hunter Vision cancel it.

Without nerfing these powers quite a bit, a slight drop in the Piranha's performance will go unnoticed. And who honestly wants to nerf the awesomeness that is Devastator Mode and Marksman?

Nerf it, and everything you've come to love and cherish about those powers/classes will be sucked down and destroyed by the black hole of nerf-dom.

Modifié par Black zr1, 31 juillet 2012 - 07:42 .

[silencedmages12]

UkranyannBR wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

UkranyannBR wrote...

I really like the N7 Piranha.

In fact, this was the first shotgun that I liked to use, because it is the ultimate weapon with ammunition penetrating III (or IV), mainly in the hands of a N7 Destroyer (using the Stronghold Pack V + Cyclonic Modulator III), when the size clip increases from 8 to 12 and the firing rate decreases significantly.

The reason is simple. It was fun to use a shotgun.

I think people should worry less about the damage of a good gun and its frequency of fire and instead, seek to improve the damage of weapons useless, as are the SMGs and some sniper rifles - unfairly - as krysae rifle , who suffered two cuts damage and rate of fire.

Also, should not forget that the enemies were also improved, increasing their shields and health, but the old weapons are still the same, making them even more obsolete.

The piranha can be nerfed to make it fair and weak weapons can be improved upon.  Fair compromise

I really do not think they should change something in N7 Piranha.
May increase the weight of the gun, but it only.

Contextualized within the "Mass Effect Universe":

When an armaments factory creates a weapon more effective than those that are on the market, this is a technological advantage. NEVER a disadvantage. If the other shotguns show up below, the problem is not the N7 Piranha. You can not expect the "N7 Weaponry Factory", reduce the destructive power of N7 Piranha, when the enemies become more difficult to overcome.

Ancient weapons are no longer used when they become inefficient and that is what is happening in the game now. The logic would be that the "manufacturers" of the other weapons improve their models, they continue to compete in the market.

I think the Alliance, as well as their own arms factory would send an official note with a resounding "NO!"

So NO, I do not agree that the gun should be impaired in their efficiency in the game, as well as consider other weapons that were "spoiled" as Krysae Sniper, should have their damage parameters and rate of fire original restored.

I completely agree with you, the N7 Piranha is a good weapon at best.  Its not a gamebreaker by any means like the Krysae used to be.  Piranha is only good at how they wanted it to be used, CLOSE RANGE.  They will not nerf this weapon so give it up protoman you freaking reject!

Modifié par silencedmages12, 31 juillet 2012 - 06:54 .

[Mysteryman2000]

DNC Protoman wrote...

My brothers, we have battled tooth and nail agianst the mighty nefer onslaught.  We have seen glorious victory and bitter defeat. 

Now we see the Piranha.  A weapon so powerful it instantly invalidates any other means of attack or strategy.  It destroys class and weapon variety as it has worked it's way into nearly every match on nearly every character.  With it's lightweight and extreme power it dominates all.   But see it for what it truly is.

A dark omen.  Yes it is a blight.  It is overpowered.  Far too overpowered.  This is troublesome as it may lead to class nerfs just as the Krysae before it did.  Remember how the overpowered Krysae destroyed your TC snipers my brothers.  Know that very same Krysae has abandoned you, and left in it's wake a hollow ineffective shell of  a weapon while the bitter and unholy TC nerf remains.

The piranha will do the same.  We cannot allow this.  We must stand with the Nerfers as brothers in arms until this abominiation is balanced.  We must do so before it is too late...

Remain ever vigilant my allies.  We must destroy this overpowered shotgun before it destroys us...

[crentel]

it was terrible, they buff it.  Now people want it back down to where it was.   There's no pleasing this community anymore...