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#551
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godlike13 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

godlike13 wrote...

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PanzerGr3nadier wrote...

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 Have you seen these forums when you suggest balancing an OP weapon? They will personally attack you, call you a jealous baby, then claim you have no life and are a homosexual. 

People do not like to give up their toys!


This, I don't have Piranha but I've been proud Anti-Nerfer since the days of TC-War.

Hold on dear friends, "Balance Changes" are coming soon... Lastest attack was 7 days ago so its here pretty soon and when it finally comes.... BSN will once again spill their own blood...




For now we must stand fast with the nerfers.  This gun will lead to ruination if allowed to remain.  We must strike it from the land post-haste.



LoL, "we must stand fast with the nerfers.". Don't try to play it off like ur not a nerfer. Doesn't work like that. U are a nerfer now. So just like every other nerfer scum, do us all a favor and just shut up.



I have battled the Dark Nerfer God King and his minions in their dark lair and foiled their unholy plots time after time.  I see this Piranha shotgun for what it is- a dark source of nerfs to class abilities that will itself be nerfed after said abilities are destoyed.  I combat that darkness.


No, ur just a nerfer now. Nerfer. So just shut it already.


+1. Nerfducks are Nerfducks.

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Huh, I uhh, I don't... I don't see a Piranha nerf this week... Huh...

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NeferiusX3 wrote...

Huh, I uhh, I don't... I don't see a Piranha nerf this week... Huh...


Schedule got shifted. Typhoon bites the dust today, piranha next week.

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*Coughs* Oh hey, look at that! Your dead thread came back to life!

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its THAT guy wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Huh, I uhh, I don't... I don't see a Piranha nerf this week... Huh...


Schedule got shifted. Typhoon bites the dust today, piranha next week.


"the reality is, the Reapers have almost every conceivable advantage --
numbers, firepower, technology – and we make do with what we have. We
strike and retreat because facing the foe head-on would be a disaster.
Nowhere is this truer than at Earth. "  Operation Overwatch.

Yep keep asking for nerfs and we will lose the war!

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ahhhh I loved that game....

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Ahhh, I bumped the thread before leaving this morning hoping I would come back to 5 pages of flaming... I wonder if he got banned?

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This is hilarious... I see people on this thread that have fully supported the nerfing of other weapons and/or powers but they're here standing up against the nerfing of THEIR favorite weapon...

D***** bag hypocrites.

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Modifié par Achire, 01 août 2012 - 06:50 .


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The most it could be nerfed is to Earth DLC launch stats.
I know, I know, for weapon classes cooldown means crap, and ALL weapons should ALWAYS be gimped on weapon classes because OMG OP!!!121!, but for casters like Vanguards, cooldown times means enough.
With 190% CD (at level X) and pathetic ranged accuracy, it has enough deterrents to make someone think twice if it is really a good idea to take one out to play.

tl;dr: before you think on crying "plz nerf", remember there are other classes who can't carry as much nor depend so little on powers as the classes where this gun is OP.

Just my two cents.

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The most it could be nerfed is to Earth DLC launch stats.
I know, I know, for weapon classes cooldown means crap, and ALL weapons should ALWAYS be gimped on weapon classes because OMG OP!!!121!, but for casters like Vanguards, cooldown times means enough.
With 190% CD (at level X) and pathetic ranged accuracy, it has enough deterrents to make someone think twice if it is really a good idea to take one out to play.

tl;dr: before you think on crying "plz nerf", remember there are other classes who can't carry as much nor depend so little on powers as the classes where this gun is OP.

Just my two cents.


It's has good ranged accuracy.  The argument that it dosen't  is a lie.  Nothing more.

It's gamebreaking and will receive a nerf to clip size, RoF, weight and reserve ammo on Tuesday.  And it will still be a good gun.

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NeferiusX3 wrote...

Ahhh, I bumped the thread before leaving this morning hoping I would come back to 5 pages of flaming... I wonder if he got banned?



I have done nothing to warrant a ban.  Calling out an insanely OP weapon isn't a crime.

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DNC Protoman wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

The most it could be nerfed is to Earth DLC launch stats.
I know, I know, for weapon classes cooldown means crap, and ALL weapons should ALWAYS be gimped on weapon classes because OMG OP!!!121!, but for casters like Vanguards, cooldown times means enough.
With 190% CD (at level X) and pathetic ranged accuracy, it has enough deterrents to make someone think twice if it is really a good idea to take one out to play.

tl;dr: before you think on crying "plz nerf", remember there are other classes who can't carry as much nor depend so little on powers as the classes where this gun is OP.

Just my two cents.


It's has good ranged accuracy.  The argument that it dosen't  is a lie.  Nothing more.

It's gamebreaking and will receive a nerf to clip size, RoF, weight and reserve ammo on Tuesday.  And it will still be a good gun.


Good ranged accuracy on 3 classes, so your enlightened nerfs would actually solve nothing, since they would still be as effective with it.

However, on the other classes which don't get any weapon buff, it would be made useless.

Way to go.

Just disable the accuracy bonuses on this shotgun, would solve this ranged issue.

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UkranyannBR = logic with lore. Excellent post sir.

What the op seems to not understand is, if the Pirahna gets nerfed, other classes must too.
ROF decrease-Devastator Mode and Marksman ROF increase cancels it.
Accuracy decrease-Above's accuracy increase cancels it.
Weight increase-more usage of Destroyer class, which will most likely lead to a nerf for everything in said class (GI nerf and TC nerf for example) and possibly further (yet unlikely) nerf of TC
Damage decrease-Devastator Mode, Marksman, and Hunter Vision cancel it.

Without nerfing these powers quite a bit, a slight drop in the Piranha's performance will go unnoticed. And who honestly wants to nerf the awesomeness that is Devastator Mode and Marksman?

Nerf it, and everything you've come to love and cherish about those powers/classes will be sucked down and destroyed by the black hole of nerf-dom.



Wrong.   All that has to be nerfed is the Piranha.  You know it and so does everyone else. 

1.)  Clip size drops from 8 to5

2.)  Extra ammo dropped to something like 40

3.)  Weight gets a pretty big increase

4.)  RoF slowed down a bit.

gun remains good and is now fair.  Done deal.

Modifié par DNC Protoman, 02 août 2012 - 03:15 .


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Aethyl wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

The most it could be nerfed is to Earth DLC launch stats.
I know, I know, for weapon classes cooldown means crap, and ALL weapons should ALWAYS be gimped on weapon classes because OMG OP!!!121!, but for casters like Vanguards, cooldown times means enough.
With 190% CD (at level X) and pathetic ranged accuracy, it has enough deterrents to make someone think twice if it is really a good idea to take one out to play.

tl;dr: before you think on crying "plz nerf", remember there are other classes who can't carry as much nor depend so little on powers as the classes where this gun is OP.

Just my two cents.


It's has good ranged accuracy.  The argument that it dosen't  is a lie.  Nothing more.

It's gamebreaking and will receive a nerf to clip size, RoF, weight and reserve ammo on Tuesday.  And it will still be a good gun.


Good ranged accuracy on 3 classes, so your enlightened nerfs would actually solve nothing, since they would still be as effective with it.

However, on the other classes which don't get any weapon buff, it would be made useless.

Way to go.

Just disable the accuracy bonuses on this shotgun, would solve this ranged issue.



Nope.  It's good accuracy on all with smartchoke your arguement is invalid.

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DNC Protoman wrote...
gun remains good and is now fair


What is "good" and what is "fair" are two relative and subjective things.

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Nope.  It's good accuracy on all with smartchoke your arguement is invalid.


Absolute rubbish, the smart choke doesn't give it even half the accuracy the Claymore gets from using it.

Just because you want it nerfed doesn't mean it is going to be - frankly I prefer my Revenant over the Piranha for 90% of the games I play with my destroyer.

Modifié par Digitalis32, 02 août 2012 - 03:21 .


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DNC Protoman wrote...

Aethyl wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

The most it could be nerfed is to Earth DLC launch stats.
I know, I know, for weapon classes cooldown means crap, and ALL weapons should ALWAYS be gimped on weapon classes because OMG OP!!!121!, but for casters like Vanguards, cooldown times means enough.
With 190% CD (at level X) and pathetic ranged accuracy, it has enough deterrents to make someone think twice if it is really a good idea to take one out to play.

tl;dr: before you think on crying "plz nerf", remember there are other classes who can't carry as much nor depend so little on powers as the classes where this gun is OP.

Just my two cents.


It's has good ranged accuracy.  The argument that it dosen't  is a lie.  Nothing more.

It's gamebreaking and will receive a nerf to clip size, RoF, weight and reserve ammo on Tuesday.  And it will still be a good gun.


Good ranged accuracy on 3 classes, so your enlightened nerfs would actually solve nothing, since they would still be as effective with it.

However, on the other classes which don't get any weapon buff, it would be made useless.

Way to go.

Just disable the accuracy bonuses on this shotgun, would solve this ranged issue.



Nope.  It's good accuracy on all with smartchoke your arguement is invalid.


You may have a different definition of 'good accuracy' than other people. Opinions are surprisingly subjective.

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The Pirahna can turn both the FQE, and the Drellguard into beasts on platinum. The gun is amazing, too amazing IMO.

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Digitalis32 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...
gun remains good and is now fair


What is "good" and what is "fair" are two relative and subjective things.

DNC Protoman wrote..
Nope.  It's good accuracy on all with smartchoke your arguement is invalid.


Absolute rubbish, the smart choke doesn't give it even half the accuracy the Claymore gets from using it.

Just because you want it nerfed doesn't mean it is going to be - frankly I prefer my Revenant over the Piranha for 90% of the games I play with my destroyer.


revenant and Piranha  comparision is meaningless.  If you want to do one, Rev gets completely stomped.

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DNC Protoman wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

The most it could be nerfed is to Earth DLC launch stats.
I know, I know, for weapon classes cooldown means crap, and ALL weapons should ALWAYS be gimped on weapon classes because OMG OP!!!121!, but for casters like Vanguards, cooldown times means enough.
With 190% CD (at level X) and pathetic ranged accuracy, it has enough deterrents to make someone think twice if it is really a good idea to take one out to play.

tl;dr: before you think on crying "plz nerf", remember there are other classes who can't carry as much nor depend so little on powers as the classes where this gun is OP.

Just my two cents.


It's has good ranged accuracy.  The argument that it dosen't  is a lie.  Nothing more.

It's gamebreaking and will receive a nerf to clip size, RoF, weight and reserve ammo on Tuesday.  And it will still be a good gun.


That overkill, and would make it just yet another useless gun for casters. If they have to do something, then just cut the clip size to 5.
Weight getting a pretty big increase would be just dumb. They don't need to ruin it for every class but Infiltrators and Solders. Who are not gonna give a **** about its weight.

Modifié par godlike13, 02 août 2012 - 03:28 .


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leave it alone, its the only decent gun left

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DNC Protoman posting a nerf request thread? Expected.

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godlike13 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

DarkLord_PT wrote...

The most it could be nerfed is to Earth DLC launch stats.
I know, I know, for weapon classes cooldown means crap, and ALL weapons should ALWAYS be gimped on weapon classes because OMG OP!!!121!, but for casters like Vanguards, cooldown times means enough.
With 190% CD (at level X) and pathetic ranged accuracy, it has enough deterrents to make someone think twice if it is really a good idea to take one out to play.

tl;dr: before you think on crying "plz nerf", remember there are other classes who can't carry as much nor depend so little on powers as the classes where this gun is OP.

Just my two cents.


It's has good ranged accuracy.  The argument that it dosen't  is a lie.  Nothing more.

It's gamebreaking and will receive a nerf to clip size, RoF, weight and reserve ammo on Tuesday.  And it will still be a good gun.


That overkill, and would make it just yet another useless gun for casters. If they have to do something, then just cut the clip size to 5. They don't need to ruin it for every class but Infiltrators and Solders.



My changes would still leave it a top-tier weapon.

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DNC Protoman wrote...

revenant and Piranha  comparision is meaningless.  If you want to do one, Rev gets completely stomped.


actually the revenant is more useful for clearing lower level opponents, it has a massive clip. And on the destroyer it delivers a godly torrent of fire at your foes - I find the piranha is best suited for bigger, shielded opponents like geth primes - and I use it against the bigger enemies because that way you can be pretty sure all the pellets are going to hit them. And since I usually play Krogans/Soldiers i'm usually very close to my opponents - which can be actively hazardous, especially if they are banshees.

Modifié par Digitalis32, 02 août 2012 - 03:31 .


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Robot_94 wrote...

leave it alone, its the only decent gun left



No.  It's not.  It's the only gun that is a complete crutch for players playing the game at a mode above their skill level is all.  Just like the Krysae USED to be.