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AresKeith wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

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The rev is in no way better than the Piranha.


that is just because you don't want to nerf it...



Nope.  It's because the Rev is balanced out unlike the Piranha.



I bet you're only crying over the pirhana be overpowered because you used a accuracy or damage enhancing character or you use bronze or silver to try to say something is overpowered


Or even more sadly don't understand concept of a close quarter shotgun doing good damage at close quarters



All non-sense arguments.  the piranha trivalizes Platinum.  It is the best weapon for ALL classes.  It does insane damage anywhere from close to medium for all classes, medium to long for acc boost ones. 

It's cheap and broken and will be toned down.  Your false claims can't save it.


wow a close quarter shotgun does damage, thats why its a CQC shotgun, if you don't like it don't use it



hes just another person that wants to destroy the purpose of having good guns or using different guns probably supports high buffs to enemy factions until any fun left within the multiplayer is truely dead or gone and make the me3 multiplayer even more of a ghost town then what it is already

Wether its the extreme bad nerfs or bad servers the multiplayer is nearly empty already.

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The Pirahna will be nerfed in the next few weeks, it's too powerful to not be.

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LiarasShield wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Digitalis32 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...
The rev is in no way better than the Piranha.


that is just because you don't want to nerf it...



Nope.  It's because the Rev is balanced out unlike the Piranha.



I bet you're only crying over the pirhana be overpowered because you used a accuracy or damage enhancing character or you use bronze or silver to try to say something is overpowered


Or even more sadly don't understand concept of a close quarter shotgun doing good damage at close quarters



All non-sense arguments.  the piranha trivalizes Platinum.  It is the best weapon for ALL classes.  It does insane damage anywhere from close to medium for all classes, medium to long for acc boost ones. 

It's cheap and broken and will be toned down.  Your false claims can't save it.


Yet you have no proof other then lip service wheres your video proof that every class can be overpowered with it?

once again you seem like a child that used a accuracy or damage enhancer character on silver or bronze


Or you're blowing smoke out your ass without actual proof.

I would give up Liarasshield, You could tell him of how you were standing arm in arm with Jesus Christ, show him pictures, souvenirs, videos, miracles, and then bring him to see Jesus himself. And he would just say. "Negative" "Jesus isn't real" There's no arguing with him, no points, no counter argument, and no matter how much proof you show him, he won't care. What he thinks, is what he thinks. His logic is supreme, and all other reasoning can ****** off.

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 02 août 2012 - 03:57 .


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Immortal Strife wrote...

The Pirahna will be nerfed in the next few weeks, it's too powerful to not be.



You have no proof other then lip service no proof that it is super powerful on all classes and it is suppose to do good damage at close quarters


None

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NeferiusX3 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Digitalis32 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...
The rev is in no way better than the Piranha.


that is just because you don't want to nerf it...



Nope.  It's because the Rev is balanced out unlike the Piranha.



I bet you're only crying over the pirhana be overpowered because you used a accuracy or damage enhancing character or you use bronze or silver to try to say something is overpowered


Or even more sadly don't understand concept of a close quarter shotgun doing good damage at close quarters



All non-sense arguments.  the piranha trivalizes Platinum.  It is the best weapon for ALL classes.  It does insane damage anywhere from close to medium for all classes, medium to long for acc boost ones. 

It's cheap and broken and will be toned down.  Your false claims can't save it.


Yet you have no proof other then lip service wheres your video proof that every class can be overpowered with it?

once again you seem like a child that used a accuracy or damage enhancer character on silver or bronze


Or you're blowing smoke out your ass without actual proof.

I would give up Liarasshield, You could tell him of how you were standing arm in arm with Jesus Christ, show him pictures, souvenir, videos, miracles, and then bring him to see Jesus himself. And he would just say. "Negative" "Jesus isn't real" There's no arguing with him, no points, no counter argument, and no matter how much proof you show him, he won't care. What he thinks, is what he thinks. His logic is supreme, and all other reasoning can ****** off.



That was a funny comparison lol yup no matter what is shown he will only denie it so I'll probably heed your advice from here on out

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shhh dont fu***K the last weapon

Don't like it? Don't use it or try a platinum round

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DNC Protoman wrote...

Black zr1 wrote...

UkranyannBR = logic with lore. Excellent post sir.

What the op seems to not understand is, if the Pirahna gets nerfed, other classes must too.
ROF decrease-Devastator Mode and Marksman ROF increase cancels it.
Accuracy decrease-Above's accuracy increase cancels it.
Weight increase-more usage of Destroyer class, which will most likely lead to a nerf for everything in said class (GI nerf and TC nerf for example) and possibly further (yet unlikely) nerf of TC
Damage decrease-Devastator Mode, Marksman, and Hunter Vision cancel it.

Without nerfing these powers quite a bit, a slight drop in the Piranha's performance will go unnoticed. And who honestly wants to nerf the awesomeness that is Devastator Mode and Marksman?

Nerf it, and everything you've come to love and cherish about those powers/classes will be sucked down and destroyed by the black hole of nerf-dom.



Wrong.   All that has to be nerfed is the Piranha.  You know it and so does everyone else. 

1.)  Clip size drops from 8 to5

2.)  Extra ammo dropped to something like 40

3.)  Weight gets a pretty big increase

4.)  RoF slowed down a bit.

gun remains good and is now fair.  Done deal.

 
Uh no. Not done.

1. Drop the magazine size, and more people will spec the Destroyer for increased magazine size (not to forget mods), hence canceling out the nerf-unless that power is nerfed or the Piranha no longer becomes a worth using shotgun and ends up a fancier version of the Scimitar.

2. Extra ammo? Please explain.
3.Weight means little to TS & the Destroyer. More people will use those classes because they want their pre-nerfed Piranha back, and they like what the class does with the weapon.
4.-snip- Devastator Mode Power
    - Base rate of fire bonus decreased from 15% to 10%-snip-

^There's your Piranha ROF nerf. Not on the weapon its self, but on a class-case in point.

You see, but you refuse to understand.

Modifié par Black zr1, 02 août 2012 - 04:02 .


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Black zr1 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Black zr1 wrote...

UkranyannBR = logic with lore. Excellent post sir.

What the op seems to not understand is, if the Pirahna gets nerfed, other classes must too.
ROF decrease-Devastator Mode and Marksman ROF increase cancels it.
Accuracy decrease-Above's accuracy increase cancels it.
Weight increase-more usage of Destroyer class, which will most likely lead to a nerf for everything in said class (GI nerf and TC nerf for example) and possibly further (yet unlikely) nerf of TC
Damage decrease-Devastator Mode, Marksman, and Hunter Vision cancel it.

Without nerfing these powers quite a bit, a slight drop in the Piranha's performance will go unnoticed. And who honestly wants to nerf the awesomeness that is Devastator Mode and Marksman?

Nerf it, and everything you've come to love and cherish about those powers/classes will be sucked down and destroyed by the black hole of nerf-dom.



Wrong.   All that has to be nerfed is the Piranha.  You know it and so does everyone else. 

1.)  Clip size drops from 8 to5

2.)  Extra ammo dropped to something like 40

3.)  Weight gets a pretty big increase

4.)  RoF slowed down a bit.

gun remains good and is now fair.  Done deal.

 
Uh no. Not done.

1. Drop the magazine size, and more people will spec the Destroyer for increased magazine size (not to forget mods), hence canceling out the nerf-unless that power is nerfed or the Piranha no longer becomes a worth using shotgun and ends up a fancier version of the Scimitar.

2. Extra ammo? Please explain.
3.Weight means little to TS & the Destroyer. More people will use those classes because they want their pre-nerfed Piranha back, and they like what the class does with the weapon.
4. Devastator Mode Power
    - Base rate of fire bonus decreased from 15% to 10%

^There's your Piranha ROF nerf. Not on the weapon its self, but on a class-case in point.

You see, but you refuse to understand.



Unfortunately I don't think logic will work here....

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why nerf it? with platinum we need the best guns we can get.

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I understand why some don't want a nerf on the Pirahna- I mean who wouldn't want the best DPS gun in the game to go along with a power spamming class the results are so good and with little draw back.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 02 août 2012 - 04:06 .


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Immortal Strife wrote...

I understand why some don't want a nerf on the Pirahna- I mean who wouldn't want the best DPS gun in the game to go along with a power spamming class the results are SI good and with little draw back.



The whole point is your saying every damn class is overpowered with this gun with just lip service you have no actual proof to anything that you're saying and without accuracy or damage enhancing characters this gun can not do good damage at enemies from a long distance away


It is a close quarter shotgun give people actual video proof of every class being overpowered with this gun and then maybe people might believe your or take you more seriously


EDIT

Also if you're using bronze or silver as your supposed testing area about weapons being overpowered you've already lost the chance to be taken seriously.

Modifié par LiarasShield, 02 août 2012 - 04:08 .


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DNC Protoman wrote...

Wrong.   All that has to be nerfed is the Piranha.  You know it and so does everyone else. 

1.)  Clip size drops from 8 to5

2.)  Extra ammo dropped to something like 40

3.)  Weight gets a pretty big increase

4.)  RoF slowed down a bit.

gun remains good and is now fair.  Done deal.


Weight gets a pretty big increase.

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Just the proof to see you have no clue about what you are saying, this thread just shall sink into abysses.

Modifié par Aethyl, 02 août 2012 - 04:07 .


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LiarasShield wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

I understand why some don't want a nerf on the Pirahna- I mean who wouldn't want the best DPS gun in the game to go along with a power spamming class the results are SI good and with little draw back.



The whole point is your saying every damn class is overpowered with this gun with just lip service you have no actual proof to anything that you're saying and without accuracy or damage enhancing characters this gun can not do good damage at enemies from a long distance away


It is a close quarter shotgun give people actual video proof of every class being overpowered with this gun and then maybe people might believe your or take you more seriously


EDIT

Also if you're using bronze or silver as your supposed testing area about weapons being overpowered you've already lost the chance to be taken seriously.

Yes, they look at the spread sheet, and only see the DPS. What they forget, is that the Piranha fires in s circle around the target. So at range, maybe 1-2 pellets of the 8 are hitting. Even up close, most pellets miss. Hurting this weapons DPS immensly. Like I said, at 5 meters it took at least 3 shots to kill a Geth Trooper. I litterally have to touch the enemy for all the pellets to hit, and even then, it takes anywhere from 3-8 rounds to kill someone. Oh yeah, and more than 74 rounds to take out an Atlast is so over powered. My Claymore can do it in half the time.

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Immortal Strife wrote...

I understand why some don't want a nerf on the Pirahna- I mean who wouldn't want the best DPS gun in the game to go along with a power spamming class the results are SI good and with little draw back.


Oh ya, shame shame that people like their power classes to have another gun they can actually use thats not just a pea shooter. Thats the problem i see people ****ing about, how its so OP on the Vanguards and Sentinels, and not the weapon specilized classes, who don't much care about weight, that have one click powers that increase its Damage, RoF, and Accuracy. Making every weapon just that much better.

Modifié par godlike13, 02 août 2012 - 04:26 .


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NeferiusX3 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

I understand why some don't want a nerf on the Pirahna- I mean who wouldn't want the best DPS gun in the game to go along with a power spamming class the results are SI good and with little draw back.



The whole point is your saying every damn class is overpowered with this gun with just lip service you have no actual proof to anything that you're saying and without accuracy or damage enhancing characters this gun can not do good damage at enemies from a long distance away


It is a close quarter shotgun give people actual video proof of every class being overpowered with this gun and then maybe people might believe your or take you more seriously


EDIT

Also if you're using bronze or silver as your supposed testing area about weapons being overpowered you've already lost the chance to be taken seriously.

Yes, they look at the spread sheet, and only see the DPS. What they forget, is that the Piranha fires in s circle around the target. So at range, maybe 1-2 pellets of the 8 are hitting. Even up close, most pellets miss. Hurting this weapons DPS immensly. Like I said, at 5 meters it took at least 3 shots to kill a Geth Trooper. I litterally have to touch the enemy for all the pellets to hit, and even then, it takes anywhere from 3-8 rounds to kill someone. Oh yeah, and more than 74 rounds to take out an Atlast is so over powered. My Claymore can do it in half the time.

Wait, wait, wait, I'll do it for you DNCprotoman. "Negative" There. Now you don't have to respond.

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Aethyl wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Wrong.   All that has to be nerfed is the Piranha.  You know it and so does everyone else. 

1.)  Clip size drops from 8 to5

2.)  Extra ammo dropped to something like 40

3.)  Weight gets a pretty big increase

4.)  RoF slowed down a bit.

gun remains good and is now fair.  Done deal.


Weight gets a pretty big increase.

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Just the proof to see you have no clue about what you are saying, this thread just shall sink into abysses.


I'll call Harbinger to blast it

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LiarasShield wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...
I understand why some don't want a nerf on the Pirahna- I mean who wouldn't want the best DPS gun in the game to go along with a power spamming class the results are SI good and with little draw back.


The whole point is your saying every damn class is overpowered with this gun with just lip service you have no actual proof to anything that you're saying and without accuracy or damage enhancing characters this gun can not do good damage at enemies from a long distance away

It is a close quarter shotgun give people actual video proof of every class being overpowered with this gun and then maybe people might believe your or take you more seriously
EDIT
Also if you're using bronze or silver as your supposed testing area about weapons being overpowered you've already lost the chance to be taken seriously.


The gun synergy is amazing on every class except the human engineers who needs a 200% cooldown. I don't play silver or bronze so I don't understand where your argument is going in that reguard. 

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So, let me get this straight, you want to nerf a gun that, even with a Smart Choke, requires you to be within 15 meters of an enemy to even hit them?

Hmmm...Nope. Don't get it.

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Someone ban this troll already

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Immortal Strife wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...
I understand why some don't want a nerf on the Pirahna- I mean who wouldn't want the best DPS gun in the game to go along with a power spamming class the results are SI good and with little draw back.


The whole point is your saying every damn class is overpowered with this gun with just lip service you have no actual proof to anything that you're saying and without accuracy or damage enhancing characters this gun can not do good damage at enemies from a long distance away

It is a close quarter shotgun give people actual video proof of every class being overpowered with this gun and then maybe people might believe your or take you more seriously
EDIT
Also if you're using bronze or silver as your supposed testing area about weapons being overpowered you've already lost the chance to be taken seriously.


The gun synergy is amazing on every class except the human engineers who needs a 200% cooldown. I don't play silver or bronze so I don't understand where your argument is going in that reguard. 



You have no proof that is what problem is you're talking out your ass and that you have no proof that this weapon is even close to being overpowered and that it does fit its role as a close quarter shotgun


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Modifié par LiarasShield, 02 août 2012 - 04:46 .


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First

there are many people who doesn't have a gun. And you want a nerf???/

are all nerfers such an egoistical person???

let me said this first. last time i love using GPS and it become boring then i change it to do a different playstyle.

there will be many people wo will get bored using the same gun. So why you want to nerf it anyway?

So please nerfers, you are the Harbinger of destruction in this MP game.....

Modifié par 4ut0b4hn5child27, 02 août 2012 - 04:42 .


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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Someone ban this troll already



Just because you don't agree with me dosen't make me a troll

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I wouldn't trust any of you gullible gus's to shine my shoes.

F*ck! People are stupid.

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Oh for the love of god, give it a rest man!

People were unintelligent enough to dig out the dead horse (thread) from its grave. The OP is just getting his dailiy trolling dose.

Modifié par robarcool, 02 août 2012 - 04:39 .


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use a different gun then if you don't like using it anymore