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#626
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DNC Protoman wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Someone ban this troll already



Just because you don't agree with me dosen't make me a troll


No, it's the fact that you so quickly from one extreme viewpoint to another that lets me know you're a troll.

From:
"We must stand our ground against ALL nerfers!  No nerf shall succeed!"

To:
"OMG this gun is so OP..it must be nerfed NOW!"

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This thread makes me want to punch random people on the streets.

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too many posts for me to respond to them all individually, so I'll do a mass response here.

First of all, I think where yo guys are all coming from is an RPG single-player perspective when it comes to speaking agianst the soon to be pirahna balancing. You are seeing it as an End-game weapon earned through countelss hours of grinding that has every right to be all-powerfull.

And it would, if it were the ultimate weapon in a single player RPG. However, this isn't a single-player RPG. not the multiplayer part. There can be no end all weapon that makes everything else obsolete. there has to be variety and teamwork involved in MP matches, with different classes having different strengths, having individuals on a 4 man team that compliment each others strengths and weaknesses for maximum effectiveness.

The Piranha in it's current state derails all that. It is all you need.  It eliminates teamwork, weapon and class balance. I fully believe it will be toned down despite any protests and I only hope it is done so before it becomes to large of a problem for this game.

Modifié par DNC Protoman, 02 août 2012 - 04:45 .


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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Someone ban this troll already



Just because you don't agree with me dosen't make me a troll


No, it's the fact that you so quickly from one extreme viewpoint to another that lets me know you're a troll.

From:
"We must stand our ground against ALL nerfers!  No nerf shall succeed!"

To:
"OMG this gun is so OP..it must be nerfed NOW!"


I stand on the side of whatever's best for the MP of this game.  This time is no different.

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LiarasShield wrote...

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I understand why some don't want a nerf on the Pirahna- I mean who wouldn't want the best DPS gun in the game to go along with a power spamming class the results are SI good and with little draw back.


The whole point is your saying every damn class is overpowered with this gun with just lip service you have no actual proof to anything that you're saying and without accuracy or damage enhancing characters this gun can not do good damage at enemies from a long distance away

It is a close quarter shotgun give people actual video proof of every class being overpowered with this gun and then maybe people might believe your or take you more seriously
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Also if you're using bronze or silver as your supposed testing area about weapons being overpowered you've already lost the chance to be taken seriously.


The gun synergy is amazing on every class except the human engineers who needs a 200% cooldown. I don't play silver or bronze so I don't understand where your argument is going in that reguard. 



You have no proof that is what problem is you're talking out your ass and that you have no proof that this weapon is even close to being overpowered and that it does fit its role as a close quarter shotgun



you know your not telling the truth about the gun.  So do many, if not all of these die-hard anit-nerfers.  The lot of you just want to keep rocking the gamebreaker. 

I'm sorry, but it has to go.

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DNC Protoman wrote...

too many posts for me to respond to them all individually, so I'll do a mass response here.

First of all, I think where yo guys are all coming from is an RPG single-player perspective when it comes to speaking agianst the soon to be pirahna balancing. You are seeing it as an End-game weapon earned through countelss hours of grinding that has every right to be all-powerfull.

And it would, if it were the ultimate weapon in a single player RPG. However, this isn't a single-player RPG. not the multiplayer part. There can be no end all weapon that makes everything else obsolete. there has to be variety and teamwork involved in MP matches, with different classes having different strengths, having individuals on a 4 man team that compliment each others strengths and weaknesses for maximum effectiveness.

The Piranha in it's current state derails all that. It is all you need.  It eliminates teamwork, weapon and class balance. I fully believe it will be toned down despite any protests and I only hope it is done so before it becomes to large of a problem for this game.

You act like it's the end all weapon, yet I hardly see it in MP, and I already stated, I'm much more effective with my Claymore. Why hasn't that been nerfed yet? Pre Piranha, there was no other gun that even came close. At least now I have two guns to choose from, but I'd be gimping myself if I took the Piranha. But at least it's close enough that it's still an option to take along.

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DNC Protoman wrote...

too many posts for me to respond to them all individually, so I'll do a mass response here.

First of all, I think where yo guys are all coming from is an RPG single-player perspective when it comes to speaking agianst the soon to be pirahna balancing. You are seeing it as an End-game weapon earned through countelss hours of grinding that has every right to be all-powerfull.

And it would, if it were the ultimate weapon in a single player RPG. However, this isn't a single-player RPG. not the multiplayer part. There can be no end all weapon that makes everything else obsolete. there has to be variety and teamwork involved in MP matches, with different classes having different strengths, having individuals on a 4 man team that compliment each others strengths and weaknesses for maximum effectiveness.

The Piranha in it's current state derails all that. It is all you need.  It eliminates teamwork, weapon and class balance. I fully believe it will be toned down despite any protests and I only hope it is done so before it becomes to large of a problem for this game.


this is a Co-Op multiplayer, when your asking for a nerf you ruin the fun for other people. If this was a PvP type MP then sure its ok to ask for a nerf

so I'll say it use a different gun then

Modifié par AresKeith, 02 août 2012 - 04:49 .


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DNC Protoman wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Someone ban this troll already



Just because you don't agree with me dosen't make me a troll


No, it's the fact that you so quickly from one extreme viewpoint to another that lets me know you're a troll.

From:
"We must stand our ground against ALL nerfers!  No nerf shall succeed!"

To:
"OMG this gun is so OP..it must be nerfed NOW!"


I stand on the side of whatever's best for the MP of this game.  This time is no different.


Wrong in a player vs player competivbe game it would make sense for they're not be a gun that outdoes one another

But In A Cooperative game they're are suppose to be good or better guns that you work hard to unlock or get stronger weapons the further in progression that you once again though you have no proof that the pirahana is anyway near overpowered and your poor excuses with no proof aren't cutting it

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Ya people are getting way carried away with wanting nerfs its a PVE game not a PVP game. >.<

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Odintheknight wrote...

Ya people are getting way carried away with wanting nerfs its a PVE game not a PVP game. >.<



The sad thing is the sob has no proof of this weapon being overpowered that just seems like another person wanting to destroy the fun of mp on a grand scale.

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NeferiusX3 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

too many posts for me to respond to them all individually, so I'll do a mass response here.

First of all, I think where yo guys are all coming from is an RPG single-player perspective when it comes to speaking agianst the soon to be pirahna balancing. You are seeing it as an End-game weapon earned through countelss hours of grinding that has every right to be all-powerfull.

And it would, if it were the ultimate weapon in a single player RPG. However, this isn't a single-player RPG. not the multiplayer part. There can be no end all weapon that makes everything else obsolete. there has to be variety and teamwork involved in MP matches, with different classes having different strengths, having individuals on a 4 man team that compliment each others strengths and weaknesses for maximum effectiveness.

The Piranha in it's current state derails all that. It is all you need.  It eliminates teamwork, weapon and class balance. I fully believe it will be toned down despite any protests and I only hope it is done so before it becomes to large of a problem for this game.

You act like it's the end all weapon, yet I hardly see it in MP, and I already stated, I'm much more effective with my Claymore. Why hasn't that been nerfed yet? Pre Piranha, there was no other gun that even came close. At least now I have two guns to choose from, but I'd be gimping myself if I took the Piranha. But at least it's close enough that it's still an option to take along.



I'll credit you with enough intelligence to accept the fact that your lying with the Claymore - Piranha comparisons.  It's not even a close race between the two, Pirahna winning by a landslide. 

Claymore hasn't been nerfed because it's a balanced weapon as it is.  Piranha is not.  You know it,  i know it, and so do all your supporters.  Difference is I cop to it.

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I advise all nerf-whiners to go play on gold and platinum - maybe you will change mind,b**tards. I'm so tired of you making gold and platinum harder by playing on silver. C'mon - go use your Mantis and don't mess with other players,who need this guns for hard matches.

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LiarasShield wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Someone ban this troll already



Just because you don't agree with me dosen't make me a troll


No, it's the fact that you so quickly from one extreme viewpoint to another that lets me know you're a troll.

From:
"We must stand our ground against ALL nerfers!  No nerf shall succeed!"

To:
"OMG this gun is so OP..it must be nerfed NOW!"


I stand on the side of whatever's best for the MP of this game.  This time is no different.


Wrong in a player vs player competivbe game it would make sense for they're not be a gun that outdoes one another

But In A Cooperative game they're are suppose to be good or better guns that you work hard to unlock or get stronger weapons the further in progression that you once again though you have no proof that the pirahana is anyway near overpowered and your poor excuses with no proof aren't cutting it

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he did post proof, it was of a maxed out Turian solider with all lvl III amps on a speed run. Show me an Asari Adept with no amps rock it to 200k on gold. Then we'll talk.

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LiarasShield wrote...

Odintheknight wrote...

Ya people are getting way carried away with wanting nerfs its a PVE game not a PVP game. >.<



The sad thing is the sob has no proof of this weapon being overpowered that just seems like another person wanting to destroy the fun of mp on a grand scale.



harsh language, watch your filthy mouth. 

It's undeniable this gun is beyond OP.  Anyone who has used it can testify so.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Someone ban this troll already



Just because you don't agree with me dosen't make me a troll


No, it's the fact that you so quickly from one extreme viewpoint to another that lets me know you're a troll.

From:
"We must stand our ground against ALL nerfers!  No nerf shall succeed!"

To:
"OMG this gun is so OP..it must be nerfed NOW!"


May I clone you? We need more of you on the forums. 

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Lkv999 wrote...

I advise all nerf-whiners to go play on gold and platinum - maybe you will change mind,b**tards. I'm so tired of you making gold and platinum harder by playing on silver. C'mon - go use your Mantis and don't mess with other players,who need this guns for hard matches.



I am talking about Piranha making PLATINUM easy.  Which it very much does.

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Lkv999 wrote...

I advise all nerf-whiners to go play on gold and platinum - maybe you will change mind,b**tards. I'm so tired of you making gold and platinum harder by playing on silver. C'mon - go use your Mantis and don't mess with other players,who need this guns for hard matches.



Once again this proton person can't even give legit proof just trying to limit the multiplayer for all

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Also I've used the pirhana for my krogan vanguard and the pirahana has no good damage output on gold and is only worth using for the 200 recharge and the knife attachment so stop making excuses to nerf a close quarter shtogun that isn't even that good without equipment additions or accuracy or damage enhancing characters

Modifié par LiarasShield, 02 août 2012 - 04:57 .


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DNC: You truely are a master troll... maybe even the one who spawned all trolls. 26 pages... 4-5 days... congrats. Your throne under the Golden Gate Bridge will serve as a monument to your epic trollness after you are long gone.

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DNC Protoman wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Odintheknight wrote...

Ya people are getting way carried away with wanting nerfs its a PVE game not a PVP game. >.<



The sad thing is the sob has no proof of this weapon being overpowered that just seems like another person wanting to destroy the fun of mp on a grand scale.



harsh language, watch your filthy mouth. 

It's undeniable this gun is beyond OP.  Anyone who has used it can testify so.


I'm using it on Gold and sometime Platinum it looks fine to me

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Notice, my loyal readers, how those against me have no arguments whatsoever. Only outright lies, off the wall fasle weapon comparisions, and angry vulgar lanuage filled replies.

Bioware, please take notice. See that the right thing to do is balance this gun.

1.) Clip size from 8 to 5

2.) RoF decrease-20%

3.) extra ammo decerased to 40

4.) Weight increased by 30

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I think we should keep bumping this thread so that it's always the first one on the page past the stickies. That way Bioware can make an "intelligent" and "informed" decision regarding the Piranha.....wait a sec

WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT!?!?!

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LiarasShield wrote...

Lkv999 wrote...

I advise all nerf-whiners to go play on gold and platinum - maybe you will change mind,b**tards. I'm so tired of you making gold and platinum harder by playing on silver. C'mon - go use your Mantis and don't mess with other players,who need this guns for hard matches.



Once again this proton person can't even give legit proof just trying to limit the multiplayer for all

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Also I've used the pirhana for my krogan vanguard and the pirahana has no good damage output on gold and is only worth using for the 200 recharge and the knife attachment so stop making excuses to nerf a close quarter shtogun that isn't even that good without equipment additions or accuracy or damage enhancing characters



Pure lies and propaganda.

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LiarasShield wrote...

The whole point is your saying every damn class is overpowered...You have no proof that is what problem is you're talking out your ass and that you have no proof that this weapon is even close to being overpowered and that it does fit its role as a close quarter shotgun


You have no proof that the Prahna is not over powered.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 02 août 2012 - 05:02 .


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DNC Protoman wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Lkv999 wrote...

I advise all nerf-whiners to go play on gold and platinum - maybe you will change mind,b**tards. I'm so tired of you making gold and platinum harder by playing on silver. C'mon - go use your Mantis and don't mess with other players,who need this guns for hard matches.



Once again this proton person can't even give legit proof just trying to limit the multiplayer for all

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Also I've used the pirhana for my krogan vanguard and the pirahana has no good damage output on gold and is only worth using for the 200 recharge and the knife attachment so stop making excuses to nerf a close quarter shtogun that isn't even that good without equipment additions or accuracy or damage enhancing characters



Pure lies and propaganda.


And what exactly is it that you are spewing? Not much logic or truth.

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IS NOT A FREAKING PVP. If you don't like it don't use it...Seriously, get a life... boshtet.


Bioware must stop enrfing weapons...