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#876
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DullahansXMark wrote...

As someone explicitly pointed out before (unfortunately, I forgot the good man's name), the Piranha's accuracy is terrible. At several meters it barely manages to hit anything. It's a melee-range weapon to the core, and doesn't need any nerfs, because it's a high-risk high-reward gun. Or as Mr. Taylor would say, "Heavy risk, but the priiiiize"

The Piranha can snipe with a smart choke, huh? That's funny, because the aforementioned guy proved otherwise.

 

It's far to accurate at far away for the insane damage it does.  Anyone honest who's actually used it can testify to that.

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I'm going to use this quote from another thread

joker_jack wrote...

The thing is when ever a nerfer decides to "prove" something is op they never use the average joe test. Always a class that can maximize a weapon's potential that other classes. That right there will invalidate any test as the data doesn't use any come factors and only classes that become a statistical anomaly.



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DNC Protoman wrote...

just curious if you guys have seen the 11:23 platinum speedrun of all Piranha users?


No but i seen the one with avenger users.....

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Black zr1 wrote...

Protoman, riddle me this.

Did you make this, in your opinion, disturbing discovery while your Piranha was at X? Or did you see how it became OP (in your opinion) as you leveled it up over time?

Because a Piranha X is a lot more powerful on its own without mods than a Piranha I or V for that matter. Obviousness is obvious.



Nonsense post.  It's easy to get to 10 and the mods that power it up ( smartchoke)  are also easy to come by.

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NeferiusX3 wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

majinclos wrote...

No leave the piranha be. Its very usefull in Gold and Platinum. If you dont like it dont use it



It can't be left alone.  It's too dominant.


My GI with a GPS and Scorpion suggest you are wrong. I watch my friends use the Piranha during some farm runs at White and I consistantly pass them by huge margins. Even loaded with level 4 mods they can't keep up.

I just finished a Gold game, I was a GI with the Claymore, disrupter rounds I, and shotgun amp II, up against a maxed out Turian Solider with a Piranha, a maxed out devastator with a Piranha and a maxed out Vorcha sentinel with the GPS. Guess who came in first? Me (Claymore), who came in second? The Vorcha (GPS), and who was third and last? Exactly, the Piranhas. We absolutly wiped the floor with them.

Image IPB





This screen shows nothing, there is no way to verfiy loadouts from this screen.   Pointless post and argument.

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I am honestly suprised anyone would allow themselves to be trolled by you for 36 pages.

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DatFeel wrote...

I am honestly suprised anyone would allow themselves to be trolled by you for 36 pages.



Just imagine how you'll feel tuesday when the Piranha gets balanced....

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DNC Protoman wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

As someone explicitly pointed out before (unfortunately, I forgot the good man's name), the Piranha's accuracy is terrible. At several meters it barely manages to hit anything. It's a melee-range weapon to the core, and doesn't need any nerfs, because it's a high-risk high-reward gun. Or as Mr. Taylor would say, "Heavy risk, but the priiiiize"

The Piranha can snipe with a smart choke, huh? That's funny, because the aforementioned guy proved otherwise.

 

It's far to accurate at far away for the insane damage it does.  Anyone honest who's actually used it can testify to that.


Yea the Claymore does too much damage from far away. Oh, you meant the Piranha. You know you can't snipe with that? The damage per shot is not conducive to it.

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justgimmedudedammit wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

just cause i'm making vaild points you want to remain under the radar dosent mean I'm getting banned.


I had to see for myself what these valid points were so I went through moist of the posts you have made in this thread and have come to the conclusion that you are delusional. You do have a truckload and a half of opinion though. Which as we all know is not really the same as proof.

As a public service here is a quick list of your manical rantings with no proof provided by you other than your opinion:

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I need to wash my hands now since I feel dirty.


Oh hey guys, sup.

Just passin' through, you know. 

Doin my thang.

Yeah yeah, and I disagree with the OP and all dat jazz. 

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Kick In The Door wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

just cause i'm making vaild points you want to remain under the radar dosent mean I'm getting banned.


I had to see for myself what these valid points were so I went through moist of the posts you have made in this thread and have come to the conclusion that you are delusional. You do have a truckload and a half of opinion though. Which as we all know is not really the same as proof.

As a public service here is a quick list of your manical rantings with no proof provided by you other than your opinion:

-wall of links-

I need to wash my hands now since I feel dirty.


Oh hey guys, sup.

Just passin' through, you know. 

Doin my thang.

Yeah yeah, and I disagree with the OP and all dat jazz. 


Oh look! you again! I knew you would be back. So much for not bumping this anymore. 

Modifié par Mike 9987, 03 août 2012 - 12:25 .


#886
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Mike 9987 wrote...

Kick In The Door wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

just cause i'm making vaild points you want to remain under the radar dosent mean I'm getting banned.


I had to see for myself what these valid points were so I went through moist of the posts you have made in this thread and have come to the conclusion that you are delusional. You do have a truckload and a half of opinion though. Which as we all know is not really the same as proof.

As a public service here is a quick list of your manical rantings with no proof provided by you other than your opinion:

-wall of links-

I need to wash my hands now since I feel dirty.


Oh hey guys, sup.

Just passin' through, you know. 

Doin my thang.

Yeah yeah, and I disagree with the OP and all dat jazz. 


Oh look! you again! I knew you would be back. So much for not bumping this anymore. 


You're way behind. Get with the times man!

Yep, I flip flopped! But you and Tyson over there already know what that's like! 

I now have a reason to bump your thread, a vested interest if you will.

I'd like to thank all the contributors for making it happen. 

This is truly wonderful, a brilliant achievement!:wizard:

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DNC Protoman wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

majinclos wrote...

No leave the piranha be. Its very usefull in Gold and Platinum. If you dont like it dont use it



It can't be left alone.  It's too dominant.


My GI with a GPS and Scorpion suggest you are wrong. I watch my friends use the Piranha during some farm runs at White and I consistantly pass them by huge margins. Even loaded with level 4 mods they can't keep up.

I just finished a Gold game, I was a GI with the Claymore, disrupter rounds I, and shotgun amp II, up against a maxed out Turian Solider with a Piranha, a maxed out devastator with a Piranha and a maxed out Vorcha sentinel with the GPS. Guess who came in first? Me (Claymore), who came in second? The Vorcha (GPS), and who was third and last? Exactly, the Piranhas. We absolutly wiped the floor with them.

Image IPB





This screen shows nothing, there is no way to verfiy loadouts from this screen.   Pointless post and argument.

At least I'm showing evidence of some kind. Where's yours? Where's your videos? Where's your tests? Your argument? You haven't given us a single god damn one! It's Infuriating! All you ever say is "Negative", or have one of your "Friends" Post the most OP builds possible with all level IV ammo on Gold... Anyone who disagrees with you, no matter what they provide you, is seen as a troll lier. I want to see your video of YOU, on PLATINUM, With an Asari Adept, no amps, and you gettting 200k and beating it 11 minutes if it's so Op. Well? Come on? Where's your proof? And don't show me a video of silver with a lvl 20 Turian soldier with lvl III amps and lvl IV ammo.

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 03 août 2012 - 12:34 .


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Kick In The Door wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

Kick In The Door wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

just cause i'm making vaild points you want to remain under the radar dosent mean I'm getting banned.


I had to see for myself what these valid points were so I went through moist of the posts you have made in this thread and have come to the conclusion that you are delusional. You do have a truckload and a half of opinion though. Which as we all know is not really the same as proof.

As a public service here is a quick list of your manical rantings with no proof provided by you other than your opinion:

-wall of links-

I need to wash my hands now since I feel dirty.


Oh hey guys, sup.

Just passin' through, you know. 

Doin my thang.

Yeah yeah, and I disagree with the OP and all dat jazz. 


Oh look! you again! I knew you would be back. So much for not bumping this anymore. 


You're way behind. Get with the times man!

Yep, I flip flopped! But you and Tyson over there already know what that's like! 

I now have a reason to bump your thread, a vested interest if you will.

I'd like to thank all the contributors for making it happen. 

This is truly wonderful, a brilliant achievement!:wizard:



It's funny cause none of the people he is responding to in those quotes had evidence either. Go on, keep bumping. 

#889
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The Case
These last few weeks, a lot of talk has been going around about a particular gun: The Piranha
It stands out in its quality of very high rate of fire, large clip, low weight and high damage. So much in fact, that it seems that some people have blinded themselves looking only at its good qualities, and demand a ner.. rebalancing of the weapon.

What these people seem to forget is that its good qualities come at one particularly bad one: At arms lenght, you cannot hit the broad side of a barn with it.

In fact, its accuracy is so bad that it perfectly outweighs everything good about the gun, and lands it at a solid "okay" weapon rating overall, as its high damage: 88,7 (or a whopping 1774 damage per second) is calculated on the assumption that all pellets hit.

The Experiment
In comes the relentless horde of re-balancers: "You can spec for accuracy and put a smart choke on it! That makes you able to frikkin snipe with it." If you can show me someone actually sniping with this weapon, i would be very pleased, but untill you do, allow me to show you what it does at range:

Character: Destroyer w. accuracy spec and devastaror mode engaged = 25% more accuracy.
Weapon: Piranha X with Large Caliber Barrel V and Smart Choke V = 50% more accuracy.
Total: 75% more accuracy compared to the weapons base value.
No ammo powers, no amps were used.
All shots taken from cover.
I took a few screenshots on FB:W against the Geth, as that is something most people can relate to:

The Proof
The distance to the end wall is 24 meters, anyone with a sniper rifle will confirm that, and if not, i have snaps of that too. This means that the distance to the target is probably closer to 20 meters, but lets call it 22 for good measure. As you can see, the outline of the target does only cover 5 out of the 8 pellet holes in the wall behind him. Lets call it 6 hits on a good day, or 75% effectiveness @ 22 meters.

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Next up is 30 meters:
It is a bit hard to see the holes in the wall, but the are most definantly there. In fact there are a lot more there than in the target - only 3 out of 8 pellets hit at this distance. With a bit of luck that could have been 4, so 50% effectiveness on a good day. By now, most AR's can do the job a lot better.

Image IPB

At 40 meters it wouldn't matter if i took a screen shot. It would only feature a target with full health, as at that distance, it would be more effective to take out the bullets and throw them.

The Conclusion
The only rational conclusion must be that there are no grounds for ajusting this weapon.

Remember that this was done with the second highest possible accuracy increase (Tsol gets slightly more) - on all other classes, these numbers could practically be cut in half(!), meaning that the Piranha is a terribly ineffective weapon outside of a set of very specific circumstances, and that there is no reason, besides some players personal oppinions, for ner... balancing it.

Doing so would render it completely useless, as the player already has to be near point blanc range in order to reap the benefits of the weapon, and by doing so is putting himself at high risk of becoming more of a liability than an asset to the team.

A little quiz
To finish up here, would anyone like to guess how many shots it takes to kill that Pyro in
the second picture? All relevant info is in the post already.

It took 5,
(FIVE!) well aimed shots.

The difficulty? Bronze.

TL;DR
The Piranha is useless @ +25 meters even with all accuracy mods. Nerfers have no case at all.

edit: Second highest accuracy increase. All shot were taken from cover.


And what did you say to this post Protoman? "Negative" "All fake"

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 03 août 2012 - 12:45 .


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Doesn't seem to be OP on the classes I play. Reeger kills stuff quicker as far as I can tell, with about the same range. Claymore kills stuff instantly (barring big units).

Perhaps with an Infiltrator it might be super duper, but they tend to make most weapons such.

#891
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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...


Oh okay, well did you by any chance see that OTHER long thread that called for a nerf of the Piranha?  The one from a couple of days ago?  Your buddy DNC Protoman had this to say in response to the OP calling for a nerf.  Keep in mind the OP of that thread was advocating a nerf of the exact same weapon we're talking about now...



http://social.biowar...7502/1#13327502

&

http://social.biowar...502/15#13330827

death_for_sale wrote...

With the buff to damage on July 18:

Piranha Shotgun
-Damage increased from [63.6-79.6] to [70.9-88.7]

The
damage per pellet is now 221.75 (RoF 150 * Damage 88.7(X) / 60). You
can then multiply this by the number of Pellets to get your DPS.

8 * 221.75 = 1774 DPS

Now
the current DPS of the Claymore is 1648 at Level X. Yes, the Claymore
has a tighter spread, but with Smart Choke, cover accuracy, and/or class
Accuracy bonuses, you are looking at a weapon that is beyond
Devastating on Gold and still very overpowered on Platinum.

The
sustained DPS for uncanceled/canceled Claymore fire is 470 / 833 DPS.
The sustained DPS for the uncanceled/canceled Piranha is 984 / 1338.6.
Seriously, these aren't even close. The Piranha is damage king,
and it's pretty lightweight to boot. That is a serious problem.

When
you add in RoF boosts and/or damage boosts from abilities, you can melt
bosses with this weapon faster than any other currently available. This
is also a relatively light weapon for this amount of DPS, ranging from
1.5 - .9. It is perfectly capable of being carried by caster classes
with minimal CD reduction.

I propose returning it to it's
original damage [63.6-79.6] and increasing the weight considerably to
keep caster/power based classes from using it without more severe CD
consequences, say [2.0 - 1.4] which is the current weight for GPS/Graal.

I
love the Piranha, but seriously ever match I play now, I see that
everyone is carrying it. I use it on all of my adepts and vanguards
because it has no true drawbacks with cover boosts and smart choke. On
my Turian Soldier and Destroyer, it is a boss killing machine at long
range. I don't want to even get started on how well it works on my GI.

You need to address this now, because it is already getting out of hand.


DNC Protoman wrote...

The nerfer empire has fallen. The OP of this thread is a last remanent of the nefer scum. Do not give him an inch.



Mike 9987 wrote....

 It's funny cause none of the people he is responding to in those quotes had evidence either. Go on, keep bumping.  


My pleasure.

Modifié par Kick In The Door, 03 août 2012 - 12:49 .


#892
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DNC Protoman wrote...

DatFeel wrote...

I am honestly suprised anyone would allow themselves to be trolled by you for 36 pages.



Just imagine how you'll feel tuesday when the Piranha gets balanced....


You know every gun is overpowerd when compared to the avenger. Oh U know. Lets just nerf everything till it is just as weak and usless. After all thats balance.

Modifié par Zero 2362, 03 août 2012 - 01:04 .


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DNC Protoman wrote...

.458 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

.458 wrote...

Ugh. This again. No, it is FAR from the best or only way to kill. Obviously though, some people will never be requested to have their brains nerfed as too powerful of a weapon.



It is the best gun possible to use on just about any class. That can't be allowed to continue.  it kills balance.

The problem is it shoots to fast, too accurately with smartchoke, hits too hard, has too much spare ammo and weighs too little.  All amazing pros with not a single con = problem.


You're absolutely and completely wrong. Don't know how you could even think that. Especially on sniper infiltrators and many engineers. In several cases the 358 talon is better. Can't be allowed to continue? Please, quit this game, you're definitely not good for the game, not good for teammates, and selfish beyond belief. It's a shotgun, and your blanket ideas are not for other people, they are for you. And just so you know, I don't use a shotgun, but have tried it and like it.



Of course you like it.  It's insanely overpowered.

LOL at the talon ever beating the Piranha.  It can't.  But that isn't the  talon's fault.  The play data bioware gathers will confirm all that I am saying and the adjustment will be made to the Piranha.  simple as that.

And on that faithful day, (tuesday)  I fully expect all of the hatred you pro-Piranha people can throw at me.  I will shield Bioware from your storm, as they will be doing the best possible thing for ME MP by nerfing the Piranha down to a more suitable power level.


I don't use it...but there MUST be some weapons better than others. And yes, talon has some shield gate advantages, unless they nerfed it. The real issue is that someone actually believes "it can't be allowed to be good". You're one of the Darwin Awards for Game Death. Instead of asking for that nerf, why don't you do something constructive, and stop whining about how it is the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. Really, you should quit the game if it MUST be nerfed, and CAN'T be allowed. Wow. That's pretty interesting emperor talk.

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Zero 2362 wrote...

You know every gun is overpowerd when compared to the avenger. Oh U know. Lets just nerf everything till it is just as weak and usless. After all thats balance.



THIS.  Honestly, if Bioware continues to nerf all the good weapons in this game, it will become unplayable.  I swear the MP devs need to stop treating this game like CoD or Battlefield.  It's not PvP people, it's against THE COMPUTER!!!  

Seriously, STFU about nerfs and Bioware, seriously, just stop.  If you're trying to get us to pay money for packs to get better weapons each time you release a new MP DLC, then you're SERIOUSLY going about it the wrong way.  

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aight lets stop bumping this troll post yall.

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bd2eazy wrote...

aight lets stop bumping this troll post yall.


But why? 

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bd2eazy wrote...

aight lets stop bumping this troll post yall.


 "Negative" "All false"

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.458 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

.458 wrote...

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.458 wrote...

Ugh. This again. No, it is FAR from the best or only way to kill. Obviously though, some people will never be requested to have their brains nerfed as too powerful of a weapon.



It is the best gun possible to use on just about any class. That can't be allowed to continue.  it kills balance.

The problem is it shoots to fast, too accurately with smartchoke, hits too hard, has too much spare ammo and weighs too little.  All amazing pros with not a single con = problem.


You're absolutely and completely wrong. Don't know how you could even think that. Especially on sniper infiltrators and many engineers. In several cases the 358 talon is better. Can't be allowed to continue? Please, quit this game, you're definitely not good for the game, not good for teammates, and selfish beyond belief. It's a shotgun, and your blanket ideas are not for other people, they are for you. And just so you know, I don't use a shotgun, but have tried it and like it.



Of course you like it.  It's insanely overpowered.

LOL at the talon ever beating the Piranha.  It can't.  But that isn't the  talon's fault.  The play data bioware gathers will confirm all that I am saying and the adjustment will be made to the Piranha.  simple as that.

And on that faithful day, (tuesday)  I fully expect all of the hatred you pro-Piranha people can throw at me.  I will shield Bioware from your storm, as they will be doing the best possible thing for ME MP by nerfing the Piranha down to a more suitable power level.


I don't use it...but there MUST be some weapons better than others. And yes, talon has some shield gate advantages, unless they nerfed it. The real issue is that someone actually believes "it can't be allowed to be good". You're one of the Darwin Awards for Game Death. Instead of asking for that nerf, why don't you do something constructive, and stop whining about how it is the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. Really, you should quit the game if it MUST be nerfed, and CAN'T be allowed. Wow. That's pretty interesting emperor talk.


It can be good.  And it will be.  Right now however, it's brokenly powerful and needs balanced.

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NeferiusX3 wrote...

bd2eazy wrote...

aight lets stop bumping this troll post yall.


 "Negative" "All false"


"Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I'm trolling" 

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