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[DullahansXMark]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

im not taking any pictures. the pirahna is awesome from range.
it is known.

I don't think we're thinking about the same gun. Automatic shotgun? 8 shots?

 its only automatic if you make it automatic. take your finger off the trigger and its easy shoot with it at range.
or believe everything you read here, and just give up beforehand.

If you're gonna do that, you may as well reload-cancel with the Claymore. Better accuracy, better damage, better everything. Except... well, it's not automatic.

[darkpassenger2342]

or, you could use it in auto when stuff is close, and not when it is far. that is not difficult at all, and you still get the damage output you want.
or, the game could just fire the gun for you.....

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 03 août 2012 - 06:12 .

[Amaron28]

DNC Protoman wrote...

My brothers, we have battled tooth and nail agianst the mighty nefer onslaught.  We have seen glorious victory and bitter defeat. 

Now we see the Piranha.  A weapon so powerful it instantly invalidates any other means of attack or strategy.  It destroys class and weapon variety as it has worked it's way into nearly every match on nearly every character.  With it's lightweight and extreme power it dominates all.   But see it for what it truly is.

A dark omen.  Yes it is a blight.  It is overpowered.  Far too overpowered.  This is troublesome as it may lead to class nerfs just as the Krysae before it did.  Remember how the overpowered Krysae destroyed your TC snipers my brothers.  Know that very same Krysae has abandoned you, and left in it's wake a hollow ineffective shell of  a weapon while the bitter and unholy TC nerf remains.

The piranha will do the same.  We cannot allow this.  We must stand with the Nerfers as brothers in arms until this abominiation is balanced.  We must do so before it is too late...

Remain ever vigilant my allies.  We must destroy this overpowered shotgun before it destroys us...

the gun has the most recoil in the game and has no range thats why they gave it more power. your probibly just but hurt cuz your getting out scored by people using it. im sick of you cry babies cryn about nerfs. mabyee if you played higher than bronze/silver/gold you would realize its not over powerd at all.

[Mike 9987]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i do not want the pirahna to be nerfed but any claims like the one above me are ridiculous.
i was headshotting stuff on giant earlier today halfway across the map, and not playing as a character with an acc bonus. If there was a "trick" to it, its just to slow fire and not put the gun in semi-auto mode.

Pics or it didn't happen.

The guy above has pics, and therefore it did happen.

Pics of a pointless, flawed experiment. 

Just because a gun can hit the broad side of a barn doesn't make it accurate, dude. Atlases are huge. It'd be embarassing if the gun COULDN'T hit one. And, even then, try sniping an Atlas with a Piranha. It's impossible, I've tried it myself.

I'm talking about enemies at the same distances measured in the experiemnt. The parahna is more effective at this range than any other weapon still and his experiement proves nothing. Try sniping an atlas with any other none sniper. It's impossible too. 

Saber.

Because that's such a good weapon. Pirahna will out preform it in non-rediculous ranges. 

[animedreamer]

Didn't they nerf the pirahna why are people still upset?

[DullahansXMark]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

or, you could use it in auto when stuff is close, and not when it is far. that is not difficult at all, and you still get the damage output you want.
or, the game could just fire the gun for you.....

Fair enough. Still, its forte is close-range, there's no denying that. Maybe it can do some decent damage at long-range, but other guns can do it a lot better.

[Mike 9987]

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

im not taking any pictures. the pirahna is awesome from range.
it is known.

I don't think we're thinking about the same gun. Automatic shotgun? 8 shots?

 its only automatic if you make it automatic. take your finger off the trigger and its easy shoot with it at range.
or believe everything you read here, and just give up beforehand.

If you're gonna do that, you may as well reload-cancel with the Claymore. Better accuracy, better damage, better everything. Except... well, it's not automatic.

Or, you can shoot eight shots, reload cancel at the same speed, and fire 8 more shots. Compared to the Claymore's one. 

[DullahansXMark]

Mike 9987 wrote...

Because that's such a good weapon. Pirahna will out preform it in non-rediculous ranges. 

You're using it wrong.

[darkpassenger2342]

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

or, you could use it in auto when stuff is close, and not when it is far. that is not difficult at all, and you still get the damage output you want.
or, the game could just fire the gun for you.....

Fair enough. Still, its forte is close-range, there's no denying that. Maybe it can do some decent damage at long-range, but other guns can do it a lot better.

 i agree with you there, and as i said in my first post i dont want the gun changed at all.
 the claims that the gun is useless beyond 20-30 meters are proposterous though.
 

[DullahansXMark]

Mike 9987 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

im not taking any pictures. the pirahna is awesome from range.
it is known.

I don't think we're thinking about the same gun. Automatic shotgun? 8 shots?

 its only automatic if you make it automatic. take your finger off the trigger and its easy shoot with it at range.
or believe everything you read here, and just give up beforehand.

If you're gonna do that, you may as well reload-cancel with the Claymore. Better accuracy, better damage, better everything. Except... well, it's not automatic.

Or, you can shoot eight shots, reload cancel at the same speed, and fire 8 more shots. Compared to the Claymore's one. 

Don't tell me how to use my Saber.

[DullahansXMark]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

or, you could use it in auto when stuff is close, and not when it is far. that is not difficult at all, and you still get the damage output you want.
or, the game could just fire the gun for you.....

Fair enough. Still, its forte is close-range, there's no denying that. Maybe it can do some decent damage at long-range, but other guns can do it a lot better.

 i agree with you there, and as i said in my first post i dont want the gun changed at all.
 the claims that the gun is useless beyond 20-30 meters are proposterous though.
 

Okay, that I agree with. Used properly, it CAN pull that off. It's people claiming they can snipe stuff with it that really gets me wondering.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

Mabari Owns High Dragon The 2nd wrote...

Lol, I think its funny that you people think Bioware is too stupid to see that its the weapon and not the class thats overpowered.

The classes drastically change the weapon more so than any other weapon to date. It's a high damage, automatic shotgun with terrible accuracy. Slap some mods on it and use classes with accuracy and rate of fire buffs and it is a completely different experience. The gun changes so much that I'm not sure what should be done. The gun alone isn't OP, and the Tsol (IMO the best with it DPS and not viability wise) is not OP by itself. Combine the two and you end up with something completely unique. For instance, it can take my Paladin 5-6 clips to kill a Prime without any damage buffs, but my GI can do the deed in 3 clips and maybe ten seconds. 

As long as classes don't get changed because of the gun I am fine with it staying as it is. The weapon is still only as good as the player using it. I outscored another GI today who was using the piranha with my GPS by like 70K.

Modifié par ASmoothCriminalx, 03 août 2012 - 06:21 .

[Mike 9987]

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

or, you could use it in auto when stuff is close, and not when it is far. that is not difficult at all, and you still get the damage output you want.
or, the game could just fire the gun for you.....

Fair enough. Still, its forte is close-range, there's no denying that. Maybe it can do some decent damage at long-range, but other guns can do it a lot better.

 i agree with you there, and as i said in my first post i dont want the gun changed at all.
 the claims that the gun is useless beyond 20-30 meters are proposterous though.
 

Okay, that I agree with. Used properly, it CAN pull that off. It's people claiming they can snipe stuff with it that really gets me wondering.

That's why i said non-rediculous ranges. 

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

40 pages?

The other Piranhas thread had 50pgs...


R.I.P Piranhas



Here's a tip to people who DO NOT want a weapon to be nerfed...


DON'T RESPOND TO THESE TYPE OF THREADS, EVER.


Has it ever dawned on you guys that a topic with THIS MANY REPLIES will result in "telemetry/data log investigation" By "defending" the Piranhas, you have ensured it's downfall. I'm looking at you Anti-nerfers!

For the love of the rEApers, just ignore the nerfers! Please... think of the poor Piranhas!

Think of what it will become I dare say!

[megabeast37215]

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

40 pages?

The other Piranhas thread had 50pgs...


R.I.P Piranhas



Here's a tip to people who DO NOT want a weapon to be nerfed...


DON'T RESPOND TO THESE TYPE OF THREADS, EVER.


Has it ever dawned on you guys that a topic with THIS MANY REPLIES will result in "telemetry/data log investigation" By "defending" the Piranhas, you have ensured it's downfall. I'm looking at you Anti-nerfers!

For the love of the rEApers, just ignore the nerfers! Please... think of the poor Piranhas!

Think of what it will become I dare say!

So your thread gets locked and you come over here and continue the message. Hi-five.

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

megabeast37215 wrote...

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

40 pages?

The other Piranhas thread had 50pgs...


R.I.P Piranhas



Here's a tip to people who DO NOT want a weapon to be nerfed...


DON'T RESPOND TO THESE TYPE OF THREADS, EVER.


Has it ever dawned on you guys that a topic with THIS MANY REPLIES will result in "telemetry/data log investigation" By "defending" the Piranhas, you have ensured it's downfall. I'm looking at you Anti-nerfers!

For the love of the rEApers, just ignore the nerfers! Please... think of the poor Piranhas!

Think of what it will become I dare say!

So your thread gets locked and you come over here and continue the message. Hi-five.

Once someone has made a clear decision on something, it's nigh impossible to change their opinion. I have always known this but my emotions got the better of me perhaps. 

I may not agree with all of the Anti-nerfers crazy talk, however I will not tolerate weapons suffering the same fate as the Krysae(I never even used it, its the princple that's bugging me) nor will I sit back while the other enemy factions become like the Geth. If the moderators felt my thread got out of hand then so be it. I will spread my message to any Anti-nerfers who are wise to heed it. The evidence for this is apparent, again look at threads crying about Krysae. Now look at result. Correleation? I personally believe so. 


Thanks for the debate I guess, keeps me on my toes, keeps the rEApers out of my head. 

[DeathIsHere]

Mike 9987 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i do not want the pirahna to be nerfed but any claims like the one above me are ridiculous.
i was headshotting stuff on giant earlier today halfway across the map, and not playing as a character with an acc bonus. If there was a "trick" to it, its just to slow fire and not put the gun in semi-auto mode.

Pics or it didn't happen.

The guy above has pics, and therefore it did happen.

Pics of a pointless, flawed experiment. 

Just because a gun can hit the broad side of a barn doesn't make it accurate, dude. Atlases are huge. It'd be embarassing if the gun COULDN'T hit one. And, even then, try sniping an Atlas with a Piranha. It's impossible, I've tried it myself.

I'm talking about enemies at the same distances measured in the experiemnt. The parahna is more effective at this range than any other weapon still and his experiement proves nothing. Try sniping an atlas with any other none sniper. It's impossible too. 

GPS is actually good at that. Atlases are big targets so you can hit them from the window on Dagger with all three pellets on a Charged shot. So I wouldn't say it's impossible.

As far as people brown nosing, have you ever thought that maybe they actually think you're...you know, wrong? It happens. Especially when the person you're deciding to team with to prove your argument is a 100% confirmed troll. One that blatantly and pridefully opposed your argument a few days ago only to jump sides when he realized it was the better way to troll. You come off slightly trolly yourself so it's hard to take anything you say seriously. This entire topic was made to troll.

[DNC Protoman]

DeathIsHere wrote...



As far as people brown nosing, have you ever thought that maybe they actually think you're...you know, wrong? It happens. Especially when the person you're deciding to team with to prove your argument is a 100% confirmed troll. One that blatantly and pridefully opposed your argument a few days ago only to jump sides when he realized it was the better way to troll. You come off slightly trolly yourself so it's hard to take anything you say seriously. This entire topic was made to troll.

Wrong.  This topic brings to light the extreme overpoweredness of the Piranha.  You don't like that for some reason, most likely that weapon is your crutch, the only thing allowing you to complete Gold or Platinum matches.  Or you want it preserved for farming purposes.  I don't know I'm not a doctor.

Since you have no valid arguments to defend the state of the weapon, you resort to dismissing valid claims and proff ( including the fastest speedrun ever of plat consisting of all Piranha users)  as a troll attempt.  This is pathetic and only shows how much I've beaten your cause. 

Rest assured, Tuesday is the Piranha's reckoning.

[DNC Protoman]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...
 
the claims that the gun is useless beyond 20-30 meters are proposterous
 

Indeed they are.  Indeed they are.

[kevchy]

People claiming that they can headshot things with a Piranha without accuracy bonus from characters from across a large map are clearly lying. Anyone who has picked up a Piranha would obviously know that by now.

Yes, I am calling you all out as liars. Prove to me otherwise.

As I have said before in this thread, everybody here is overreacting to the gun's power.

Modifié par kevchy, 03 août 2012 - 12:16 .

[DNC Protoman]

kevchy wrote...

People claiming that they can headshot things with a Piranha without accuracy bonus from characters from across a large map are clearly lying. Anyone who has picked up a Piranha would obviously know that by now.

As I have said before in this thread, everybody is overreacting.

it's medium range on all classes, long range on acc boost ones.  This is factual.

[kevchy]

DNC Protoman wrote...

kevchy wrote...

People claiming that they can headshot things with a Piranha without accuracy bonus from characters from across a large map are clearly lying. Anyone who has picked up a Piranha would obviously know that by now.

As I have said before in this thread, everybody is overreacting.

it's medium range on all classes, long range on acc boost ones.  This is factual.

Can it consistently deal headshots from long distances? Not really, unless you have a Marksman specced T.Soldier.

[DNC Protoman]

kevchy wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

kevchy wrote...

People claiming that they can headshot things with a Piranha without accuracy bonus from characters from across a large map are clearly lying. Anyone who has picked up a Piranha would obviously know that by now.

As I have said before in this thread, everybody is overreacting.

it's medium range on all classes, long range on acc boost ones.  This is factual.

Can it consistently deal headshots from long distances? Not really, unless you have a Marksman specced T.Soldier.

It deals so much damage, it doesn't need to headshot.

[SeaSquared]

Mabari Owns High Dragon The 2nd wrote...

Lol, I think its funny that you people think Bioware is too stupid to see that its the weapon and not the class thats overpowered.

*cough* 

[kevchy]

DNC Protoman wrote...

kevchy wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

kevchy wrote...

People claiming that they can headshot things with a Piranha without accuracy bonus from characters from across a large map are clearly lying. Anyone who has picked up a Piranha would obviously know that by now.

As I have said before in this thread, everybody is overreacting.

it's medium range on all classes, long range on acc boost ones.  This is factual.

Can it consistently deal headshots from long distances? Not really, unless you have a Marksman specced T.Soldier.

It deals so much damage, it doesn't need to headshot.

Is it damaging? Of course it is, however, when I tried it on FB Rio in Gold, I could not kill a Cerberus Trooper from halfway across the map with a full clip without Marksman. At that range, it really isn't that powerful at all.

It really requires accuracy boosting powers in order to consistently deal high damage across maps. The pellets spread is way too wide.