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[DNC Protoman]

kevchy wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

kevchy wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

kevchy wrote...

People claiming that they can headshot things with a Piranha without accuracy bonus from characters from across a large map are clearly lying. Anyone who has picked up a Piranha would obviously know that by now.

As I have said before in this thread, everybody is overreacting.

it's medium range on all classes, long range on acc boost ones.  This is factual.

Can it consistently deal headshots from long distances? Not really, unless you have a Marksman specced T.Soldier.

It deals so much damage, it doesn't need to headshot.

Is it damaging? Of course it is, however, when I tried it on FB Rio in Gold, I could not kill a Cerberus Trooper from halfway across the map with a full clip without Marksman. At that range, it really isn't that powerful at all.

It really requires accuracy boosting powers in order to consistently deal high damage across maps. The pellets spread is way too wide.

So your admitting it hits just fine medium?  And cross map Rio is a LONG LONG distance.  No way a tropper would be able to get near you coming straight on the catwalk.

[SeaSquared]

If the range is as bad as some say I guess I wouldn't mind that getting toned down. But the description says its a light,fast shotgun for quickly shredding at near point-blank. That's how I use it and a hope its effectiveness in that capacity is preserved.

[kevchy]

DNC Protoman wrote...

kevchy wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

kevchy wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

kevchy wrote...

People claiming that they can headshot things with a Piranha without accuracy bonus from characters from across a large map are clearly lying. Anyone who has picked up a Piranha would obviously know that by now.

As I have said before in this thread, everybody is overreacting.

it's medium range on all classes, long range on acc boost ones.  This is factual.

Can it consistently deal headshots from long distances? Not really, unless you have a Marksman specced T.Soldier.

It deals so much damage, it doesn't need to headshot.

Is it damaging? Of course it is, however, when I tried it on FB Rio in Gold, I could not kill a Cerberus Trooper from halfway across the map with a full clip without Marksman. At that range, it really isn't that powerful at all.

It really requires accuracy boosting powers in order to consistently deal high damage across maps. The pellets spread is way too wide.

So your admitting it hits just fine medium?  And cross map Rio is a LONG LONG distance.  No way a tropper would be able to get near you coming straight on the catwalk.

Define medium. I can hit anything in medium range (personal definition: Healthbar visible, within casting powers distance) with ANY weapon just fine, except for the Reegar.

And Rio? I was at the spawn point, and I was shooting at troopers just as they are visible after they spawn. I can kill them just fine with a Hurricane, but not with a Piranha. 

edited for spelling.

Modifié par kevchy, 03 août 2012 - 12:30 .

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

Sigh... The gun is only "overpowered" on a Destroyer/Geth Infiltrator/Turian soldier, etc. And even then you have to use ALL shotgun amps & gear, max weapon damage, and level 4 warp/ap ammo. And even then it only excels at mid-short range.

Every other class can only get it to work at close range. The Claymore can still out-damage it. Your claims are so far-fetched it's laughable. Without max gear, Claymore and GPS completely out-classes it. The GPS can even stagger Phantoms on Gold+Platinum. The Piranhas can't.


It's a great gun... in the right hands. But not OP.


On a side-note... Piranha's reckoning? Troll much? You are a sad human being. I think you need a life outside of this game if you are this keen on your "crusade" here. Irrelevant for you if the Piranhas falls... You will remain a sad human being.


To those who want to protect the Piranhas: Congrats! You already caused it's downfall by responding to this troll. After the Krysae, Typhoon, and now Piranhas... Well I hope you learned your lesson. Self-control... stop responding to these type of threads. No matter how logically & rationally you argue with the nerfers makes no difference in the end. All they need is for you to feed them your tears. There is nothing to debate, you cannot change their minds, ever. The best you can do is ignore them. That is all.

Have a nice day.

[DNC Protoman]

SeaSquared wrote...

If the range is as bad as some say I guess I wouldn't mind that getting toned down. But the description says its a light,fast shotgun for quickly shredding at near point-blank. That's how I use it and a hope its effectiveness in that capacity is preserved.

It would be fine if it were truly a close range shotgun.  It's not.

[DNC Protoman]

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Sigh... The gun is only "overpowered" on a Destroyer/Geth Infiltrator/Turian soldier, etc. And even then you have to use ALL shotgun amps & gear, max weapon damage, and level 4 warp/ap ammo. And even then it only excels at mid-short range.

Every other class can only get it to work at close range. The Claymore can still out-damage it. Your claims are so far-fetched it's laughable. Without max gear, Claymore and GPS completely out-classes it. The GPS can even stagger Phantoms on Gold+Platinum. The Piranhas can't.


It's a great gun... in the right hands. But not OP.


On a side-note... Piranha's reckoning? Troll much? You are a sad human being. I think you need a life outside of this game if you are this keen on your "crusade" here. Irrelevant for you if the Piranhas falls... You will remain a sad human being.


To those who want to protect the Piranhas: Congrats! You already caused it's downfall by responding to this troll. After the Krysae, Typhoon, and now Piranhas... Well I hope you learned your lesson. Self-control... stop responding to these type of threads. No matter how logically & rationally you argue with the nerfers makes no difference in the end. All they need is for you to feed them your tears. There is nothing to debate, you cannot change their minds, ever. The best you can do is ignore them. That is all.

Have a nice day.

Weak post.

Claymore in no way, shape or form outclasses the Piranaha.  LOL at the needing boosts to make it great.  Medium range on all classes. 

It's getting fixed.  we all know it.

[kevchy]

To add on to my earlier post, I will still require a full clip to take down a Cerberus trooper level type enemy in medium range, without accuracy powers on Gold, with gears and mods added.

I really still don't see how overpowered this gun can be in all classes. Its accuracy is way too bad to be that versatile, IMO.

[Gethzilla-N7SP]

I keep saying that the shotgun "N7 Piranha" is a weapon designed to balance things during a match, especially when there are "hordes wave" and everyone starts dying. Moreover, it is common to see players who "save missiles" in the game and also be annoying, it's good to know you have a good weapon in the back capable of knocking down enemies, instead of spending all your missiles to ensure the survival of players they should even die! : P

To this shotgun is really well used, it must be in the hands of a Destroyer. It was - without doubt - created for the Destroyer, equipped with piercing ammo, cyclonic modulators; shotgun amps and a stronghold gear ... and of course, with the Devastator Mode activated and customized to perform the RoF.

The T5-Battlesuit, has a set of efficient armor and shield, which makes the "N7 Destroyer" a "super soldier N7", allowing a human to enter into "close-combat" properly armed and protected.  Just missed an "omni-shield", instead of "omni-blade."


The ultimate weapon, perfectly applicable in the hands of a character created and equipped to fulfill its function. Destroy.

PS: If you do not like the Piranha, simply do not use. Do not want to ruin a good weapon, just because it is stronger than his smg or does not apply to his "Kung Fu Drell"

Modifié par UkranyannBR, 03 août 2012 - 01:35 .

[inferno lizard]

I cant tell if OP is a troll or if he is just dumb

[CmnDwnWrkn]

And the trolling continues...

[Cloaking_Thane]

I beat Piranha users with the Harrier all the time

[kevchy]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

I beat Piranha users with the Harrier all the time

And I can beat them both with a Talon.

[Omnifarious Nef]

kevchy wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

I beat Piranha users with the Harrier all the time

And I can beat them both with a Talon.

And my Claymore's never been outscored by one either. Nerf these three then as well?

[kevchy]

Oh, and I have yet to see actual proof that you can consistently headshot mooks across maps such as FB Giant without accuracy bonuses. That has yet to be seen.

Otherwise you are just lying, plain and simple.

[Omnifarious Nef]

kevchy wrote...

Oh, and I have yet to see actual proof that you can consistently headshot mooks across maps such as FB Giant without accuracy bonuses. That has yet to be seen.

Otherwise you are just lying, plain and simple.

I believe them to be lying, as I cannot duplicate these claims. This weapon fires in a wide circle AROUND the target, thus, making a lot of the projectiles miss. After 25 meters, pointing directly center mass will result in ALL pellets going completely around the target.

[kevchy]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Oh, and I have yet to see actual proof that you can consistently headshot mooks across maps such as FB Giant without accuracy bonuses. That has yet to be seen.

Otherwise you are just lying, plain and simple.

I believe them to be lying, as I cannot duplicate these claims. This weapon fires in a wide circle AROUND the target, thus, making a lot of the projectiles miss. After 25 meters, pointing directly center mass will result in ALL pellets going completely around the target.

I see the same thing here. I've been playing my Turian Soldier with Piranha X and Hurricane II on Gold almost exclusively since last week. Unless I use Marksman, I cannot consistently score headshots, even if I were to fire it like a semi-auto shotgun when I shoot at my targets across maps such as FB Giant, FB White or FB Rio.

Personally, I'm completely neutral to this issue, however, the logic of why this gun is overpowered is unfounded and absurd.

[.458]

kevchy wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Oh, and I have yet to see actual proof that you can consistently headshot mooks across maps such as FB Giant without accuracy bonuses. That has yet to be seen.

Otherwise you are just lying, plain and simple.

I believe them to be lying, as I cannot duplicate these claims. This weapon fires in a wide circle AROUND the target, thus, making a lot of the projectiles miss. After 25 meters, pointing directly center mass will result in ALL pellets going completely around the target.

I see the same thing here. I've been playing my Turian Soldier with Piranha X and Hurricane II on Gold almost exclusively since last week. Unless I use Marksman, I cannot consistently score headshots, even if I were to fire it like a semi-auto shotgun when I shoot at my targets across maps such as FB Giant, FB White or FB Rio.

Personally, I'm completely neutral to this issue, however, the logic of why this gun is overpowered is unfounded and absurd.

But the OP has stated that this MUST be changed and CANNOT continue! Even if it is a fantasy that is the basis. Seeing people using the weapon must mean there is nothing else aiding the weapon... The weapon has space magic...

Modifié par .458, 03 août 2012 - 02:23 .

[kevchy]

.458 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Oh, and I have yet to see actual proof that you can consistently headshot mooks across maps such as FB Giant without accuracy bonuses. That has yet to be seen.

Otherwise you are just lying, plain and simple.

I believe them to be lying, as I cannot duplicate these claims. This weapon fires in a wide circle AROUND the target, thus, making a lot of the projectiles miss. After 25 meters, pointing directly center mass will result in ALL pellets going completely around the target.

I see the same thing here. I've been playing my Turian Soldier with Piranha X and Hurricane II on Gold almost exclusively since last week. Unless I use Marksman, I cannot consistently score headshots, even if I were to fire it like a semi-auto shotgun when I shoot at my targets across maps such as FB Giant, FB White or FB Rio.

Personally, I'm completely neutral to this issue, however, the logic of why this gun is overpowered is unfounded and absurd.

But the OP has stated that this MUST be changed and CANNOT continue! Even if it is a fantasy that is the basis. Seeing people using the weapon must mean there is nothing else aiding the weapon... The weapon has space magic...

I think the only real problem with this weapon is that is has too much mojo. Bioware can nerf the mojo for all I care....after all....NO ONE KNOWS MOJO LIKE I KNOW MOJO 

[Kick In The Door]

This close to hoping it gets nerfed. If he's a nerfduck. Most of you are peanut brained amphibians. Why are you still talking to him?

Modifié par Kick In The Door, 03 août 2012 - 02:39 .

[D.Shepard]

DNC Protoman wrote...

  We must stand with the Nerfers as brothers in arms

Never! I'll never join the Nerfers

Anyway I don't know if OP is serious or not....

[Tchu Tchu Tchu Paaaa]

If I'd have the Admin power, this is what I would do with this thread
 

Modifié par Tchu Tchu Tchu Paaaa, 03 août 2012 - 02:33 .

[robarcool]

DNC Protoman wrote...

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Sigh... The gun is only "overpowered" on a Destroyer/Geth Infiltrator/Turian soldier, etc. And even then you have to use ALL shotgun amps & gear, max weapon damage, and level 4 warp/ap ammo. And even then it only excels at mid-short range.

Every other class can only get it to work at close range. The Claymore can still out-damage it. Your claims are so far-fetched it's laughable. Without max gear, Claymore and GPS completely out-classes it. The GPS can even stagger Phantoms on Gold+Platinum. The Piranhas can't.


It's a great gun... in the right hands. But not OP.


On a side-note... Piranha's reckoning? Troll much? You are a sad human being. I think you need a life outside of this game if you are this keen on your "crusade" here. Irrelevant for you if the Piranhas falls... You will remain a sad human being.


To those who want to protect the Piranhas: Congrats! You already caused it's downfall by responding to this troll. After the Krysae, Typhoon, and now Piranhas... Well I hope you learned your lesson. Self-control... stop responding to these type of threads. No matter how logically & rationally you argue with the nerfers makes no difference in the end. All they need is for you to feed them your tears. There is nothing to debate, you cannot change their minds, ever. The best you can do is ignore them. That is all.

Have a nice day.

Weak post.

Claymore in no way, shape or form outclasses the Piranaha.  LOL at the needing boosts to make it great.  Medium range on all classes. 

It's getting fixed.  we all know it.

Negative, this is false information.

[Omnifarious Nef]

So how's the crusade going?

-Nef

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 03 août 2012 - 04:59 .

[Mike 9987]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

So how's the crusade going?

-Nef

Redo your experiment with an atlas, geth prime, brute, ravenger and banshee and see the effectiveness lost at the same ranges. You used one of the smallest enemies on purpose.