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[Omnifarious Nef]

Mike 9987 wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

So how's the crusade going?

-Nef

Redo your experiment with an atlas, geth prime, brute, ravenger and banshee and see the effectiveness lost at the same ranges. You used one of the smallest enemies on purpose. 

One of the smallest enemies on purpose? Let's see here. So what your saying is, is that the Piranha is only good against the largest bosses?

[Mike 9987]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

So how's the crusade going?

-Nef

Redo your experiment with an atlas, geth prime, brute, ravenger and banshee and see the effectiveness lost at the same ranges. You used one of the smallest enemies on purpose. 

One of the smallest enemies on purpose? Let's see here. So what your saying is, is that the Piranha is only good against the largest bosses?

No, did i really say that? It's less effective against small enemies, but they have smaller health pools in the first place. You said in your post it loses it's effectiveness at those ranges, yet for some enemies it does not. Your experiment is flawed. 

[Omnifarious Nef]

Let's see here, if I can recall off the top of my head. There's 15 small enemies, (The size of a standard human and down) And 5 large enemies, (The size of a Ravager and up) So what your telling me is. Is that I should go test this weapon out on a Maxed Devastator/Turian Soldier/Geth Infiltrator with maxed gear, amps, and ammo. With maxed damage and accuracy weapon mods? And see if it's over powered? At point blank range? Because that's all the "proof" you have shown me, a banshe at 10 meters maxed everything, a speed run of a Tso on gold maxed out... Where the Asair adept with no amps sniping across the map? Even point blank, It can still take anywhere from 3-8 shots to kill a Geth trooper. Tested over, and over again.

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 03 août 2012 - 05:58 .

[Mike 9987]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Let's see here, if I can recall off the top of my head. There's 15 small enemies, (The size of a standard human and down) And 5 large enemies, (The size of a Ravager and up) So what your telling me is. Is that I should go test this weapon out on a Maxed Devastator/Turian Soldier/Geth Infiltrator with maxed gear, amps, and ammo. With maxed damage and accuracy weapon mods? And see if it's over powered? At point blank range? Because that's all the "proof" you have shown me, a banshe at 10 meters maxed everything, a speed run of a Tso on gold maxed out... Where the Asair adept with no amps sniping across the map? Even point blank, It can still take anywhere from 3-8 shots to kill a Geth trooper. Tested over, and over again.

And how many big enemies are there compared to smaller ones on the map at once at higher difficulties? Ill say it for the 100th time, any gun with the same exact set up you are describing will not preform the same as the peranha. 

Modifié par Mike 9987, 03 août 2012 - 06:03 .

[Omnifarious Nef]

Mike 9987 wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Let's see here, if I can recall off the top of my head. There's 15 small enemies, (The size of a standard human and down) And 5 large enemies, (The size of a Ravager and up) So what your telling me is. Is that I should go test this weapon out on a Maxed Devastator/Turian Soldier/Geth Infiltrator with maxed gear, amps, and ammo. With maxed damage and accuracy weapon mods? And see if it's over powered? At point blank range? Because that's all the "proof" you have shown me, a banshe at 10 meters maxed everything, a speed run of a Tso on gold maxed out... Where the Asair adept with no amps sniping across the map? Even point blank, It can still take anywhere from 3-8 shots to kill a Geth trooper. Tested over, and over again.

And how many big enemies are there compared to smaller ones on the map at once at higher difficulties? Ill say it for the 100th time, any gun with the same exact set up you are describing will not preform the same as the peranha. 

You're right, most of them will preform better. My Claymore can 1 shot Brutes on Gold. From across the map.

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 03 août 2012 - 06:04 .

[CmnDwnWrkn]

OP was a big-time rocket glitcher. He was used to having his advantage, which was due to the fact that many people weren't willing to cheat and bring themselves down to his level. Now that the glitch has been fixed, he once again sucks at the game and is lashing out with his misdirected anger.

I figure Mike 9987 is DNC's rocket glitching partner-in-crime.  They probably traded off one of them running host and the other exploiting the glitch.

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 03 août 2012 - 06:09 .

[Mike 9987]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Let's see here, if I can recall off the top of my head. There's 15 small enemies, (The size of a standard human and down) And 5 large enemies, (The size of a Ravager and up) So what your telling me is. Is that I should go test this weapon out on a Maxed Devastator/Turian Soldier/Geth Infiltrator with maxed gear, amps, and ammo. With maxed damage and accuracy weapon mods? And see if it's over powered? At point blank range? Because that's all the "proof" you have shown me, a banshe at 10 meters maxed everything, a speed run of a Tso on gold maxed out... Where the Asair adept with no amps sniping across the map? Even point blank, It can still take anywhere from 3-8 shots to kill a Geth trooper. Tested over, and over again.

And how many big enemies are there compared to smaller ones on the map at once at higher difficulties? Ill say it for the 100th time, any gun with the same exact set up you are describing will not preform the same as the peranha. 

You're right, most of them will preform better. My Claymore can 1 shot Brutes on Gold. From across the map.

No, they won't. Sure, at extream ranges, but is every enemy going to be at that extream range for the entire game? no. More often than not you won't be shooting brutes across the map. 

[BoomDynamite]

Come back when you can snipe cross-map without any accuracy bonuses, except Smart Choke.

Modifié par BoomDynamite, 03 août 2012 - 06:08 .

[samb]

 Once BW milks all it can from the last DLC, it will nerf this gun. That has been its pattern for a while now. Make something nice to get the masses excited, once a certein amount of people have it they will nerf it because it threatens their cash flow. 

[Mike 9987]

Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

[Omnifarious Nef]

Also, I believe we may need to nerf the Predator pistol as well, I played a gold game on Glacier against the Reapers and scored 130k with it using a maxed out GI with all maxed amps. This guns cannot be allowed to continue! (Seriously though, 130k with the Predator)

[.458]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

OP was a big-time rocket glitcher. He was used to having his advantage, which was due to the fact that many people weren't willing to cheat and bring themselves down to his level. Now that the glitch has been fixed, he once again sucks at the game and is lashing out with his misdirected anger.

I figure Mike 9987 is DNC's rocket glitching partner-in-crime.  They probably traded off one of them running host and the other exploiting the glitch.

+1

[Omnifarious Nef]

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Get in to medium range? Whaaaa? What happened to your infallible  argument of the gun being mid to long range? Where did it go?

[kevchy]

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

[Mike 9987]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Get in to medium range? Whaaaa? What happened to your infallible  argument of the gun being mid to long range? Where did it go?

whoa, where did i even claim that directly? Use it right, It's OP. Also, stop trying to deflect the subject, the conclusion you came to in your experiment is flawed. Period. 

[Mike 9987]

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

[kevchy]

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

[Mike 9987]

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

Explain to me how it is not.

[Mike 9987]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Also, I believe we may need to nerf the Predator pistol as well, I played a gold game on Glacier against the Reapers and scored 130k with it using a maxed out GI with all maxed amps. This guns cannot be allowed to continue! (Seriously though, 130k with the Predator)

Anything is possible when playing with bad players. 

[kevchy]

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

Explain to me how it is not.

I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

Modifié par kevchy, 03 août 2012 - 06:23 .

[Mike 9987]

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

Explain to me how it is not.

I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

It does it better. 

[Omnifarious Nef]

Mike 9987 wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Also, I believe we may need to nerf the Predator pistol as well, I played a gold game on Glacier against the Reapers and scored 130k with it using a maxed out GI with all maxed amps. This guns cannot be allowed to continue! (Seriously though, 130k with the Predator)

Anything is possible when playing with bad players. 

Hah, I wouldn't call Aaron bad to his face, he's the one who scored 170k with his Claymore infil build.

[kevchy]

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

Explain to me how it is not.

I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

It does it better. 

You need to be more specific than that.

[Mrthom1478]

People you need to stop complaining about nerf and overpowered classes and guns and start telling bioware that they need to fix basic glitches like the vanguard glith and putting new mechanics in the game like for example guardians should try to protect nemises and such. So DNC Protoman if you're not happy with the game stop complaining and go play something else

[Mike 9987]

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

Explain to me how it is not.

I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

It does it better. 

You need to be more specific than that.

What part did you not understand?