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[Mike 9987]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Also, I believe we may need to nerf the Predator pistol as well, I played a gold game on Glacier against the Reapers and scored 130k with it using a maxed out GI with all maxed amps. This guns cannot be allowed to continue! (Seriously though, 130k with the Predator)

Anything is possible when playing with bad players. 

Hah, I wouldn't call Aaron bad to his face, he's the one who scored 170k with his Claymore infil build.

Who were the other two? 

[kevchy]

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

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kevchy wrote...

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kevchy wrote...

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kevchy wrote...

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Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

Explain to me how it is not.

I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

It does it better. 

You need to be more specific than that.

What part did you not understand? 

WHY is it better? Please enlighten me. Don't ignore my question.

[Mike 9987]

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

Explain to me how it is not.

I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

It does it better. 

You need to be more specific than that.

What part did you not understand? 

WHY is it better? Please enlighten me. Don't ignore my question.

Burst fire, very high damage, most pellets will hit, the ones that do not will hit other enemies if you are shooting at a group. Headshots are easy to get at medium range. Easy to compensate for any recoil. 

Modifié par Mike 9987, 03 août 2012 - 06:34 .

[Omnifarious Nef]

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

Explain to me how it is not.

I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

It does it better. 

You need to be more specific than that.

Crudely drawn in paint with a touch pad. This, is why it has range problems beyond 20 meters V.S. other guns.

[Mike 9987]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

Explain to me how it is not.

I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

It does it better. 

You need to be more specific than that.

Crudely drawn in paint with a touch pad. This, is why it has range problems beyond 20 meters V.S. other guns.

Aim to the right a little and guess what? the six pellets on the left side of the arc will hit the target, two of the ones shown to hit may miss then, but it's a better shot than you are depicting. The rest will hit another enemy if near by.  

Modifié par Mike 9987, 03 août 2012 - 06:39 .

[Omnifarious Nef]

Mike 9987 wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong.

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.

I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

Then how is medium range "good range" then?

Explain to me how it is not.

I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

It does it better. 

You need to be more specific than that.

Crudely drawn in paint with a touch pad. This, is why it has range problems beyond 20 meters V.S. other guns.

I'm just showing a center mass shot, almost direct screen shot. ( I have an old camera phone, so the quality was below potato) Thus, I recreated it in Paint.

Aim to the right a little and guess what? the six pellets on the left side of the arc will hit the target, two of the ones shown to hit may miss then, but it's a better shot than you are depicting. The rest will hit another enemy if near by.  

Edit: "Holy #%@ I'm in the quote bubble, what?! halp!"

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 03 août 2012 - 06:44 .

[Mike 9987]

I'm just showing a center mass shot, almost direct screen shot. ( I have an old camera phone, so the quality was below potato) Thus, I recreated it in Paint.

So, how does that prove anything then? Compensating your aim makes more pellets hit. Like i said, use it right, it's OP.

Modifié par Mike 9987, 03 août 2012 - 06:49 .

[Omnifarious Nef]

Mike 9987 wrote...

I'm just showing a center mass shot, almost direct screen shot. ( I have an old camera phone, so the quality was below potato) Thus, I recreated it in Paint.

So, how does that prove anything then? Compensating your aim makes more pellets hit. Like i said, use it right, it's OP.

The alleged thousands of DPS is only from every single pellet hiting. Even if I aimed to the right, I would still be missing 40% of my DPS, that's a major hit to damage.

[Mike 9987]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

I'm just showing a center mass shot, almost direct screen shot. ( I have an old camera phone, so the quality was below potato) Thus, I recreated it in Paint.

So, how does that prove anything then? Compensating your aim makes more pellets hit. Like i said, use it right, it's OP.

The alleged thousands of DPS is only from every single pellet hiting. Even if I aimed to the right, I would still be missing 40% of my DPS, that's a major hit to damage.

On enemies with lesser health pools. On bosses, all pellets would hit. And that 40% could migrate to another enemy. just because it missed the intended target does not mean the pelets did zero damage. i guess one could argue that banshees may be harder to hit with all of them, but others it's easy. 

Modifié par Mike 9987, 03 août 2012 - 06:54 .

[Omnifarious Nef]

Mike 9987 wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

I'm just showing a center mass shot, almost direct screen shot. ( I have an old camera phone, so the quality was below potato) Thus, I recreated it in Paint.

So, how does that prove anything then? Compensating your aim makes more pellets hit. Like i said, use it right, it's OP.

The alleged thousands of DPS is only from every single pellet hiting. Even if I aimed to the right, I would still be missing 40% of my DPS, that's a major hit to damage.

On enemies with lesser health pools. On bosses, all pellets would hit. And that 40% could migrate to another enemy. just because it missed the intended target does not mean the pelets did zero damage. i guess one could argue that banshees may be harder to hit with all of them, but others it's easy. 

And there we go, an actual disscussion unlike DNC. I would have just gotten a "Negative" from any of my posts.

[MrFuddyDuddy]

[quote]NeferiusX3 wrote...

[quote]Mike 9987 wrote...

[quote]NeferiusX3 wrote...

[quote]kevchy wrote...

[quote]Mike 9987 wrote...

[quote]kevchy wrote...

[quote]Mike 9987 wrote...

[quote]kevchy wrote...

[quote]Mike 9987 wrote...

[quote]kevchy wrote...

[quote]Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong. [/quote]

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.
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I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

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Then how is medium range "good range" then?

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Explain to me how it is not.

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I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

[/quote]

It does it better. 

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You need to be more specific than that.

[/quote] Crudely drawn in paint with a touch pad. This, is why it has range problems beyond 20 meters V.S. other guns.





[/quote] I'm just showing a center mass shot, almost direct screen shot. ( I have an old camera phone, so the quality was below potato) Thus, I recreated it in Paint.

Aim to the right a little and guess what? the six pellets on the left side of.the arc will hit the target, two of the ones shown to hit may miss then, but it's a better shot than you are depicting. The rest will hit another enemy if near by.  

Edit: "Holy #%@ I'm in the quote bubble, what?! halp!"

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[CmnDwnWrkn]

I have to ask - which game are you playing where you have the luxury of standing out in the open, unloading a full 8 shots, reload cancelling, and then following it up with another 8 shots?  It isn't Mass Effect 3.

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 03 août 2012 - 07:03 .

[MrFuddyDuddy]

Just felt like adding to the quote pyramid, this thread got so f*cking redundant like 35 pages ago, either let bioware nerf the damn thing or stfu about it becase ever gun ccan be made to look godly with the right character and maxed consumables, mods and gear...

[Mike 9987]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

I'm just showing a center mass shot, almost direct screen shot. ( I have an old camera phone, so the quality was below potato) Thus, I recreated it in Paint.

So, how does that prove anything then? Compensating your aim makes more pellets hit. Like i said, use it right, it's OP.

The alleged thousands of DPS is only from every single pellet hiting. Even if I aimed to the right, I would still be missing 40% of my DPS, that's a major hit to damage.

On enemies with lesser health pools. On bosses, all pellets would hit. And that 40% could migrate to another enemy. just because it missed the intended target does not mean the pelets did zero damage. i guess one could argue that banshees may be harder to hit with all of them, but others it's easy. 

And there we go, an actual disscussion unlike DNC. I would have just gotten a "Negative" from any of my posts.

All i'm trying to get across is that the results are not 100% concluseive 

[Mike 9987]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I have to ask - which game are you playing where you have the luxury of standing out in the open, unloading a full 8 shots, reload cancelling, and then following it up with another 8 shots?  It isn't Mass Effect 3.

Language of the internet - hyperbole. 

[Omnifarious Nef]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I have to ask - which game are you playing where you have the luxury of standing out in the open, unloading a full 8 shots, reload cancelling, and then following it up with another 8 shots?  It isn't Mass Effect 3.

If I have my Kroguard, then yes, I can do that, if I'm anything else. Then no. Especially a non weapon based class like an Adept.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Mike 9987 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I have to ask - which game are you playing where you have the luxury of standing out in the open, unloading a full 8 shots, reload cancelling, and then following it up with another 8 shots?  It isn't Mass Effect 3.

Language of the internet - hyperbole. 

It's your language.

[Mike 9987]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I have to ask - which game are you playing where you have the luxury of standing out in the open, unloading a full 8 shots, reload cancelling, and then following it up with another 8 shots?  It isn't Mass Effect 3.

Language of the internet - hyperbole. 

It's your language.

*Calls OP a troll.* *Tries to troll people*<_<

[Mike 9987]

I have never seen so many trolls on one website call other people trolls.

[Omnifarious Nef]

Mike 9987 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I have to ask - which game are you playing where you have the luxury of standing out in the open, unloading a full 8 shots, reload cancelling, and then following it up with another 8 shots?  It isn't Mass Effect 3.

Language of the internet - hyperbole. 

It's your language.

*Calls OP a troll.* *Tries to troll people*<_<

*Space Magic* *Sparkle* *Sparkle*

[Schneidend]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I have to ask - which game are you playing where you have the luxury of standing out in the open, unloading a full 8 shots, reload cancelling, and then following it up with another 8 shots?  It isn't Mass Effect 3.

If I have my Kroguard, then yes, I can do that, if I'm anything else. Then no. Especially a non weapon based class like an Adept.

This. Nothing short of a brawler class like a Krogan, Demolisher, or Batarian can do this and not instantly go down.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Mike 9987 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I have to ask - which game are you playing where you have the luxury of standing out in the open, unloading a full 8 shots, reload cancelling, and then following it up with another 8 shots?  It isn't Mass Effect 3.

Language of the internet - hyperbole. 

It's your language.

*Calls OP a troll.* *Tries to troll people*<_<

I asked a very relevant question, and you are now attempting to deflect said question with more trolling.  All of your examples involve someone standing and shooting all 8 shots at an Atlas from mid-range.  I'm asking you - how do you accomplish this?

[Hellfire257]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
I asked a very relevant question, and you are now attempting to deflect said question with more trolling.  All of your examples involve someone standing and shooting all 8 shots at an Atlas from mid-range.  I'm asking you - how do you accomplish this?

Bronze, maybe? 

[MrFuddyDuddy]

So about that wall of quotes? As much as I hate bumping this topic i'm hoping it gets locks so more quote pyramids coming up <333

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[quote]kevchy wrote...

[quote]Mike 9987 wrote...

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[quote]Mike 9987 wrote...

[quote]kevchy wrote...

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[quote]kevchy wrote...

[quote]Mike 9987 wrote...


Also, why would you even try to snipe enemies across the map with the piranha? Get in medium range, kill everything. It's like saying a sniper is OP because an AR is less accurate at the same range. If you try to snipe enemies with a piranha, you are using it wrong. [/quote]

Funny. You've mentioned it has good range. Even so, even at medium range, it requires nearly half or a full clip to kill an enemy. I hardly would even call that OP. There are plenty of other weapons that can perform as well or even better than the Pirahna at that range, like the Harrier, Hurricane, Claymore etc.

I can snipe with a Piranha with ease when I have the T.Soldier's Marksman activated. Anyone who claims that they can snipe without accuracy powers is a fraud.
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I love how people try to twist words to their own accord. Good range =/= sniping range. 

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Then how is medium range "good range" then?

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Explain to me how it is not.

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I can kill just about any trooper tier enemy with any weapon with ease at medium range. What makes the Piranha so special? What makes it stand out from the crowd? 

[/quote]

It does it better. 

[/quote]
You need to be more specific than that.

[/quote] Crudely drawn in paint with a touch pad. This, is why it has range problems beyond 20 meters V.S. other guns.





[/quote] I'm just showing a center mass shot, almost direct screen shot. ( I have an old camera phone, so the quality was below potato) Thus, I recreated it in Paint.

Aim to the right a little and guess what? the six pellets on the left side of.the arc will hit the target, two of the ones shown to hit may miss then, but it's a better shot than you are depicting. The rest will hit another enemy if near by.  

Edit: "Holy #%@ I'm in the quote bubble, what?! halp!"

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[Mike 9987]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I have to ask - which game are you playing where you have the luxury of standing out in the open, unloading a full 8 shots, reload cancelling, and then following it up with another 8 shots?  It isn't Mass Effect 3.

Language of the internet - hyperbole. 

It's your language.

*Calls OP a troll.* *Tries to troll people*<_<

I asked a very relevant question, and you are now attempting to deflect said question with more trolling.  All of your examples involve someone standing and shooting all 8 shots at an Atlas from mid-range.  I'm asking you - how do you accomplish this?

I never claimed you could fire eight shots with the wepon, reload, and fire eight more without cover. Also, i don't see anybody who did. You are speaking in hyperbole and then tried to acccuse me of it. And, i dont know, maybe, like, the atlas is not focusing on me 100% of the time?