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[usmcsnyper31]

+1 to relix

[Kick In The Door]

It doesn't matter.

Bioware insists on making the game stale and boring with their excessive rabid nerfing of good weapons. This game will die when other better multiplayer games hit the shelves maybe even before then and this will be nothing but a vague memory.

Optimistic prognosis. Yes, I know. But it's the truth. Bank on it.

[Talisman devil]

Stop feeding into this thread, that's how these people get away with nerfing  our beloved weapons and powers! This guy is getting you upset so, he can get Bioware to take notice of this thread!!!!!!!!!! Let it be!!!!!!! If Bioware really cared, they would try everything for them selfs!!! That is what they get paid for or least that's how it's supposed to work out!?!?!?

Modifié par Talisman devil, 04 août 2012 - 07:21 .

[DNC Protoman]

Relix28 wrote...

Oh, you mean, "toned down" like the Falcon? Or the Krysae? Or the Typhoon? What you also fail to realize, is that the balancing team at Bioware is pretty much clueless when it comes to balancing. In case you didn't notice, every time they go on and "balance" weapons or powers its either:
a) they buff/nerf thigns by insignificant amounts, so that it doesn't make any real difference
they nerf good solid weapons and powers into mediocrity or uselessness (Falcon, Krysae, Typhoon and Sabotage are good examples of this)

Guess what's gonna happen to the Piranha, once enough clueless people start making ridiculous threads like this? I'll give you a hint, it's gonna be option . Then we can all go back to using what we were using before. Its a good way to keep the game fresh and exciting. And we will have people such as yourself to thank for that.

Even if  the Piranha is nerfed into oblivion, that's better than what it is now.  '

Let's hope for a moderate across the board nerf to this gun on tues, not a massive smackdown.

[Maker MEDA]

Boo! Boo to the nerfing of my favorite gun! BoooO!

[DNC Protoman]

Maker MEDA wrote...

Boo! Boo to the nerfing of my favorite gun! BoooO!

Why is the Piranha your favorite gun?

[Eelectrica]

If they're taking a look at for the next roll out of balance changes, what they should do is roll back the initial buff and go from there.

What's the use of releasing new dlc and weapons if they're only going to be made useless a couple of weeks later? Actually I do know the answer to that...

[Dream-Maker]

Nerfer: "The piranha is too powerful! It absolutely wrecks everything faster than almost any other gun on a GI and Destroyer! On a caster character I have no reason not to use it over the Talon or Wraith for example which both weight about the same but don't perform as well by far."

Anti-nerfer: "No, it's only strong on GI, Destroyer or Turian Soldier, otherwise it's too inacurrate, so you have to be at close range for it to actually do damage! So it's a fair gun, high reward but also high risk!"

Nerfer: "With just a smart choke on any class you can actually hit targets at mid range with half the pellets if aiming at their side and thanks to the high ROF still do more DPS than weapons of the same category, maybe even killing a few enemies in the process if they are grouped. Also for bosses, range doesn't matter so much. At mid range you'll still land most if not all pellets on them anyway."

Anti-nerfer: "No, you're lying it's impossible to do that at mid range and I'm sure you're using consumables anyway so your point is not valid. And bosses are big so it doesn't count either."

----Piranha nerf happens----

Anti-nerfer: "Piranha sucks now, I can't kill targets as fast as before anymore, especially at mid range! Now I have to get super close for it to do good damage! It's too much risk, you suck bioware, thanks for ruining another weapon! Now better switch to the crappy Wraith or the Talon!"

Nerfer: "..."


Just trying to sum up things until now and what will likely happen next...

Modifié par Dream-Maker, 05 août 2012 - 02:00 .

[DNC Protoman]

Dream-Maker wrote...

Nerfer: "The piranha is too powerful! It absolutely wrecks everything faster than almost any other gun on a GI and Destroyer, and on a caster character I have no reason not to use it over the Talon or Wraith which both weight about the same but don't perform as well by far."

Anti-nerfer: "No, it's only strong on GI, Destroyer or Turian Soldier, otherwise it's too inacurrate, so you have to be at close range for it to actually do damage! So it's a fair gun, high reward but also high risk!"

Nerfer: "With just a smart choke on any class you can actually hit targets at mid range with half the pellets if aiming at their side and thanks to the high ROF still do more DPS than weapons of the same category, maybe even killing a few enemies in the process if they are grouped. Also for bosses, range doesn't matter so much. At mid range you'll still land most if not all pellets on them anyway."

Anti-nerfer: "No, you're lying it's impossible to do that at mid range and I'm sure you're using consumables anyway so your point is not valid. And bosses are big so it doesn't count either."

----Piranha nerf happens----

Anti-nerfer: "Piranha sucks now, I can't kill targets as fast as before anymore, especially at mid range! Now I have to get super close for it to do good damage! It's too much risk, you suck bioware, thanks for ruining another weapon! Now better switch to the crappy Wraith or the Talon!"

Nerfer: "..."


Just trying to sum up things until now and what will likely happen next...

It should be a close range dependant weapon for the ludicaris amount of damage it does.  I would be happy if that is what happens.

[Impulse and Compulse]

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

[Knight_Quack]

May the nerf fisherman catch this Piranha.

[perducci]

please no... every second PSP seems to bump my piranha.

[Dendio1]

Who cares? If the Fish is nerfed, move on to another gun. Reegar, claymore or wraith

[Maker MEDA]

No! Nooooo!

[BIENADICTO16]

This is not free 4 all

This is co op play

Simpy your ego is too much that don't wanna "lose"

Meanwhile everybody is helping don't bother whit this things

[DNC Protoman]

Knight_Quack wrote...

May the nerf fisherman catch this Piranha.

indeed.

[CptSketch13]

 
 

[Omnifarious Nef]

kevchy wrote...

You know what, I'd like to get in an actual debate with DNC, like I did with some users on this forum. However, I am beginning to feel that the OP is like a child who covers up his ears and go "lalala" whenever someone speaks to him and uses his annoying "Negative hurr hurr" response to push away what might be a fruitful discussion.

Are you going to talk like an adult, or are you just going to shield yourself away from all this?

Indeed, Mike was also being quite stuborn, but I eventually managed a basic discussion out of him. It was nice while it lasted.

[DNC Protoman]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

kevchy wrote...

You know what, I'd like to get in an actual debate with DNC, like I did with some users on this forum. However, I am beginning to feel that the OP is like a child who covers up his ears and go "lalala" whenever someone speaks to him and uses his annoying "Negative hurr hurr" response to push away what might be a fruitful discussion.

Are you going to talk like an adult, or are you just going to shield yourself away from all this?

Indeed, Mike was also being quite stuborn, but I eventually managed a basic discussion out of him. It was nice while it lasted.

there is no being stubborn. Piranha is proven broke, and it's geting balanced.  End of story.

[BoomDynamite]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Do it on Giant.

Or Dagger. NO, NO! Condor.

[BoomDynamite]

DNC Protoman wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

I would just like to submit more hard evidence of the piranha's brokeness...

10:58 Platinum run- 

video link-   

adding a post match screen for the vid here-

They're all GIs or MQIs.

[BoomDynamite]

DNC Protoman wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

oh no I know how to make a weapon really good with mods and other bonus, it needs to be nerf because I'm smart

Fight's over son.  It's proven broke and going to get balanced.

Usually when somebody says "I'm done!" or "I'm not having this conversation." or something like that, you admit defeat. Just something I've noticed.

[BoomDynamite]

For the record, I think it needs a nerf. Not a huge one though.

[egueguen]

just give it a rest if you hate the gun so much just dont use it its that simple, your not suffering in any way, its not like people are killing you with an unfair advantage or taking away credits or exp