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#126
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DNC Protoman wrote...


a foolish point of view.  This gun IS getting nerfed.  I want it to happen before it causes other major nerfs to occur, just as the Krysae did.

Perhaps you should not mix up your arguments. Why don't you tell me why I should respect my "Better"

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Curzyfish wrote...

It does not matter one bit what people are saying. Bioware is going to see it's usage and it will end up being nerfed whatever people say.


Pretty much this. If you don't think it's OP and don't want it nerfed, don't use it like it's insanely OP.

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godlike13 wrote...

Shut up, just shut up. 



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DNC Protoman wrote...

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How about instead of asking for a nerf to everybody's game, you do what your profile's biography says and ask for your proposed nerf to only apply to your own game?

Making this thread is awfully hypocritical of you.



It  is foolish to defend this gun.  I combat unreasonable nerfs, however, this Piranha is a huge problem as it is.  It will lead to many classes being gimped.  And after that it will be nered to oblivion anyway. 

I offer the best option. Give up your OP cannon before it's too late...


If you delete your manifest and start over from scratch I'll think about it.

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Hey OP , unless you have solid proof about the crap you typed about TC krysae ,


i say its a bunch of BS .

Whats the problem here , someone using a rare outperformed your hard earned UR's?

Does it make you feel better that you should be the only one able to kill **** bc "look i got a maxed UR"

#131
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I say cut the piranha's damage back to release state or maybe 5% less and tweaking down it's RPM/refire time so that Infiltrators lose a shot or two from from TC's bonus. Altering its weight too much means it heads towards the pile of medium weight shotguns discouraging it from caster use.

I seriously doubt Bioware are going to go Falcon/Krysae on it.



This is the correct line of thinking.  Fire rates gotta fall, maybe clip size and reserve ammon decrease and damage loss.  It will stll be good, but not OP to the max.

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I, for one, actually think it could use a little bit of nerfing. Nothing extreme though.


But what about the Apfel Strudel buff?

We got literally ONE, just ONE weapon in this game which is 100% human, and I cant use it well unless I'm playing Demolisher.

MORE SPARE STRUDEL !!!


Word.

Strudel for everyone. It would solve almost every major problem in this world. Famity? Eat the strudel. Bad guys around? Eating strudel releases hormons that make you happy.

If anything, we should nerf the ability for people to be allergic against strudel ingredients!

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DNC, can I ask you what your favored class/weapon loadout is?

I'm idly curious.


If his gt is the same as his username I've run into him a couple of times on glacier gold using GI + piranha. Apologies TC if I've mistaken you for someone else.



You probably have as I seek to contribute to the overuse and likelyness of a nerf...

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The shotguns in ME3 are so weak. It's sad when BW finally releases some decent shotties (Reegar, Piranha) people cry for nerfs. The Piranha is weaker than the ME2 Scimitar. In fact if that gun was in ME2 you wouldn't use it over any ME2 shotty or smg.

Vanguards should be able to Charge and kill non-bosses with a shotgun in one cooldown and one clip. The Reegar, Piranha, and C.moore are the only shotgun that let you do that. You shouldn't be forced to have 4 or 5 sec plus Charge cooldown to have a decent shotgun as a VG.

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Deja Vu...

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mrwizeguy wrote...

Hey OP , unless you have solid proof about the crap you typed about TC krysae ,


i say its a bunch of BS .

Whats the problem here , someone using a rare outperformed your hard earned UR's?

Does it make you feel better that you should be the only one able to kill **** bc "look i got a maxed UR"


It makes me feel bad that I can melt a Platinum Banshee in roughly 2.5 mags by myself... which translates into about 10 seconds... and I can do this on a weapon with 150% OR MORE recharge rate.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

SalvationThroughDestruction wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

tfoltz wrote...

Someone with all gear and almost all ultra-rares maxed is complaining about something? Ignored.



You must learn to respect your betters...

And there we have it, the mighty elitist.

He doesn't want a nerf, he just wants Platinum difficulty to be diamond difficulty. He's embarrased people can contribute to a Co-Op game just as much as him now.


a foolish point of view.  This gun IS getting nerfed.  I want it to happen before it causes other major nerfs to occur, just as the Krysae did.


And crying out for massive nerfs is surely the best way to prevent massive nerfs.

...

You're doing it wrong.


I call for this gun to be brought into line before it causes nerfs to the wrong things. 

The Piranha is the problem here.  Fix it before it's too late.

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Superfluou5 wrote...

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

DNC, can I ask you what your favored class/weapon loadout is?

I'm idly curious.


If his gt is the same as his username I've run into him a couple of times on glacier gold using GI + piranha. Apologies TC if I've mistaken you for someone else.

Yep, it is. We used to run Krysae and GI speed farms all the time.

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Lol bunch of girls asking for a nerf on a coop and to a gun that comes with the risk of running to enemies face... OF course its gonna be overpowered on bronze play gold or platinum with no consumables going all rambo or not work with your teammates and see how it goes.

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D Amiri wrote...
Vanguards should be able to Charge and kill non-bosses with a shotgun in one cooldown and one clip. The Reegar, Piranha, and C.moore are the only shotgun that let you do that. You shouldn't be forced to have 4 or 5 sec plus Charge cooldown to have a decent shotgun as a VG.


GPS and Graal would like to have a word with you...

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D Amiri wrote...

The shotguns in ME3 are so weak. It's sad when BW finally releases some decent shotties (Reegar, Piranha) people cry for nerfs. The Piranha is weaker than the ME2 Scimitar. In fact if that gun was in ME2 you wouldn't use it over any ME2 shotty or smg.

Vanguards should be able to Charge and kill non-bosses with a shotgun in one cooldown and one clip. The Reegar, Piranha, and C.moore are the only shotgun that let you do that. You shouldn't be forced to have 4 or 5 sec plus Charge cooldown to have a decent shotgun as a VG.



The wraith, graal, and GPS still exist you know.  And they allow you to do exactly as you said, w/o killing your cooldown like the claymore does.  Talon also works.

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WTF

Did someone hijack your account?

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Needs a RoF decrease or a 40% weight increase, or a clip reduced by 2 or 3. Pick 1 of those, or nerf the damage like 15%.

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How can you say it's OP if you haven't used it? :?


Ohh I've used it... just got done using it on a GI to carry 2 morons and a decent player through a Platinum PUG. Scores were something like:

Me - 140k
Decent guy - 80K
2 Idiots - 40k each

I know how OP it is... but I'd hate to see another weapon get destroyed b/c its OP on a few classes. I think it's the few classes that need looked at... and it still needs a weight nerf regardless.


Okay, sorry. lol.

I actually agree that it could use a weight nerf, but nothing else.

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mmdore wrote...

Lol bunch of girls asking for a nerf on a coop and to a gun that comes with the risk of running to enemies face... OF course its gonna be overpowered on bronze play gold or platinum with no consumables going all rambo or not work with your teammates and see how it goes.


That's not how you play Platinum...

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mrwizeguy wrote...

Hey OP , unless you have solid proof about the crap you typed about TC krysae ,


i say its a bunch of BS .

Whats the problem here , someone using a rare outperformed your hard earned UR's?

Does it make you feel better that you should be the only one able to kill **** bc "look i got a maxed UR"


I care nothing for score and don't rely on UR's to carry me.  The Piranha is stupidly overpowered, overused and will soon be nerfed. 

It want it done soon and right.  without causing any adjacent nerfs and without making the gun worthless.  It needs to be brought into line- anyone denying that knows they are lying.

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rare and ultra rare should be OP if they get nerfed and became so good as a common than they better get rid of this two categories. The Great Nerf Theory "if a weapon is ultra rare and its useful then i must be OP, a balanced weapon is a weak weapon".

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DNC Protoman wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

Hey OP , unless you have solid proof about the crap you typed about TC krysae ,


i say its a bunch of BS .

Whats the problem here , someone using a rare outperformed your hard earned UR's?

Does it make you feel better that you should be the only one able to kill **** bc "look i got a maxed UR"


I care nothing for score and don't rely on UR's to carry me.  The Piranha is stupidly overpowered, overused and will soon be nerfed. 

It want it done soon and right.  without causing any adjacent nerfs and without making the gun worthless.  It needs to be brought into line- anyone denying that knows they are lying.



Maybe, just maybe you should not ask for a nerf with such hyperbolic polemics then. Just a thought here ...

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DNC Protoman wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

Hey OP , unless you have solid proof about the crap you typed about TC krysae ,


i say its a bunch of BS .

Whats the problem here , someone using a rare outperformed your hard earned UR's?

Does it make you feel better that you should be the only one able to kill **** bc "look i got a maxed UR"


I care nothing for score and don't rely on UR's to carry me.  The Piranha is stupidly overpowered, overused and will soon be nerfed. 

It want it done soon and right.  without causing any adjacent nerfs and without making the gun worthless.  It needs to be brought into line- anyone denying that knows they are lying.


I still think the GI is a bigger issue...

Hmm... trade ONLY 375 shields for 17.5% damage, 15% accuracy and ROF increases... or speed/vision... yeah... that sounds balanced.

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No. Don't nerf the Piranha.

Buff all the other guns to the same level.

Problem solved.