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[DNC Protoman]

Mgamerz wrote...

Needs a RoF decrease or a 40% weight increase, or a clip reduced by 2 or 3. Pick 1 of those, or nerf the damage like 15%.

Needs RoF decrease and Clip size cut down.

[Master Xanthan]

Relix28 wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

It'll go from being a Piranha Shotgun to Clown Fish Shotgun.


 

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

 
 

[ConstantineCS]

I think that people forget shotguns must do large amounts of damage due to the fact that you are this far (<--->) from the Banshee/Atlas/Brute/Phantom that can/will instakill you.

[DNC Protoman]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

No. Don't nerf the Piranha.

Buff all the other guns to the same level.

Problem solved.

No.   The piranha's current level is too powerful. It's a problem.

[Marauder Shields N7]

 GTFO

[Freaksh0w56]

It's designed for people who can't play well. I hate it.

[DNC Protoman]

ConstantineCS wrote...

I think that people forget shotguns must do large amounts of damage due to the fact that you are this far (<--->) from the Banshee/Atlas/Brute/Phantom that can/will instakill you.

Once again, smart-choke.  Makes it medium to long range. 

[DNC Protoman]

Freaksh0w56 wrote...

It's designed for people who can't play well. I hate it.

thank you.

[Creston918]

I don't really understand the hubbub about the Piranha. Imo, Reegar >>> Piranha.

[born2beagator]

DNC Protoman wrote...

My brothers, we have battled tooth and nail agianst the mighty nefer onslaught.  We have seen glorious victory and bitter defeat. 

Now we see the Piranha.  A weapon so powerful it instantly invalidates any other means of attack or strategy.  It destroys class and weapon variety as it has worked it's way into nearly every match on nearly every character.  With it's lightweight and extreme power it dominates all.   But see it for what it truly is.

A dark omen.  Yes it is a blight.  It is overpowered.  Far too overpowered.  This is troublesome as it may lead to class nerfs just as the Krysae before it did.  Remember how the overpowered Krysae destroyed your TC snipers my brothers.  Know that very same Krysae has abandoned you, and left in it's wake a hollow ineffective shell of  a weapon while the bitter and unholy TC nerf remains.

The piranha will do the same.  We cannot allow this.  We must stand with the Nerfers as brothers in arms until this abominiation is balanced.  We must do so before it is too late...

Remain ever vigilant my allies.  We must destroy this overpowered shotgun before it destroys us...

STFU and GTFO

[CmnDwnWrkn]

megabeast37215 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

Hey OP , unless you have solid proof about the crap you typed about TC krysae ,


i say its a bunch of BS .

Whats the problem here , someone using a rare outperformed your hard earned UR's?

Does it make you feel better that you should be the only one able to kill **** bc "look i got a maxed UR"

I care nothing for score and don't rely on UR's to carry me.  The Piranha is stupidly overpowered, overused and will soon be nerfed. 

It want it done soon and right.  without causing any adjacent nerfs and without making the gun worthless.  It needs to be brought into line- anyone denying that knows they are lying.

I still think the GI is a bigger issue...

Hmm... trade ONLY 375 shields for 17.5% damage, 15% accuracy and ROF increases... or speed/vision... yeah... that sounds balanced.

It's not even debatable that a class capable of achieving +300% damage will throw a game out of balance.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

megabeast37215 wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

Hey OP , unless you have solid proof about the crap you typed about TC krysae ,


i say its a bunch of BS .

Whats the problem here , someone using a rare outperformed your hard earned UR's?

Does it make you feel better that you should be the only one able to kill **** bc "look i got a maxed UR"

I care nothing for score and don't rely on UR's to carry me.  The Piranha is stupidly overpowered, overused and will soon be nerfed. 

It want it done soon and right.  without causing any adjacent nerfs and without making the gun worthless.  It needs to be brought into line- anyone denying that knows they are lying.

I still think the GI is a bigger issue...

Hmm... trade ONLY 375 shields for 17.5% damage, 15% accuracy and ROF increases... or speed/vision... yeah... that sounds balanced.

It's not even debatable that a class capable of achieving +300% damage will throw a game out of balance.

[WMcAlister]

Wow...7 pages that fast? You really kicked a hornet's nest didn't you pally?

I think it could use a tiny nerf. From 8 to 6 shots, and an extra bit of weight (wouldn't bother Devastators or Batarians much). RoF, accuracy, and damage are all fine. Even on my GI on Platinum, I have to Amp the everloving hell out of it before it feels Godly. And if you gotta use Amps, I don't blame the gun outright.

Modifié par WMcAlister, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:03 .

[Master Xanthan]

well as usual bioware gives us free weapons and people want to turn those new great weapons into nerf guns.

[megabeast37215]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...
I still think the GI is a bigger issue...

Hmm... trade ONLY 375 shields for 17.5% damage, 15% accuracy and ROF increases... or speed/vision... yeah... that sounds balanced.

It's not even debatable that a class capable of achieving +300% damage will throw a game out of balance.

Thank you kind sir. Your objectivity is rare and appreciated.

[MChang1984]

DNC Protoman wrote...

My brothers, we have battled tooth and nail agianst the mighty nefer onslaught.  We have seen glorious victory and bitter defeat. 

Now we see the Piranha.  A weapon so powerful it instantly invalidates any other means of attack or strategy.  It destroys class and weapon variety as it has worked it's way into nearly every match on nearly every character.  With it's lightweight and extreme power it dominates all.   But see it for what it truly is.

A dark omen.  Yes it is a blight.  It is overpowered.  Far too overpowered.  This is troublesome as it may lead to class nerfs just as the Krysae before it did.  Remember how the overpowered Krysae destroyed your TC snipers my brothers.  Know that very same Krysae has abandoned you, and left in it's wake a hollow ineffective shell of  a weapon while the bitter and unholy TC nerf remains.

The piranha will do the same.  We cannot allow this.  We must stand with the Nerfers as brothers in arms until this abominiation is balanced.  We must do so before it is too late...

Remain ever vigilant my allies.  We must destroy this overpowered shotgun before it destroys us...

THE GUN IS AN N7 WEAPON!

IT IS N7 FOR A REASON!

YOU ARE JUST A MORON - WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM.

[Immortal Strife]

This thread is one of the most entertaining ones in awhile-other than the lame apple struddel stuff. On subject, the Pirahna is going to get nerfed; the DPS is too high on every class and the accuracy is plenty fine with a smart choke-tip, hip fire it. The light weight makes the Pirahna the go-to-gun on all classes, even caster classes, because the dps will out perform any BE or TB damage. Take of your blinders people and take note of how many are using this massive DPS shotgun in lobbies.

[DNC Protoman]

Master Xanthan wrote...

well as usual bioware gives us free weapons and people want to turn those new great weapons into nerf guns.

It dosen't need to be nerfed into oblivion.  It needs to get toned down. 

[megabeast37215]

WMcAlister wrote...

Wow...7 pages that fast? You really kicked a hornet's nest didn't you pally?

I think it could use a tiny nerf. From 8 to 6 shots (wouldn't bother Devastators or Batarians much). RoF, accuracy, and damage are all fine. Even on my GI on Platinum, I have to Amp the everloving hell out of it before it feels Godly. And if you gotta use Amps, I don't blame the gun outright.

But just about everyone who has any desire to win uses equipment on Platinum... and equipment drops super fast now... playing Platinum, getting 2 Spectre packs per match = pretty much unlimited equipment. One match uses 3, get minimum 4 back... sometimes 6-8.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 30 juillet 2012 - 05:05 .

[stysiaq]

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August 1, 2012
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Apfel Strudel
- Spare ammo increased from [33-45] to [54-66]
- Added "OMNOMNOM" sound while firing
- Clip size increased from 3 to 6
- Health regeneration increased from 75 points to 90 points
- Switched rarity to common, so everyone gets some

Piranha
- Not touched

Typhoon
- Not touched, because user pasieka17 unlocked it and is not bored with it yet

Nice things
- You can have them


Unfortunately, this is the thread to discuss the apple pies, my thread got locked, dammit.

[DNC Protoman]

Air Quotes wrote...

Is there a feature in the forums so I could NEVER see any Protoman posts EVER AGAIN?

There exists no way to silence the truth...

[Learn To Love Yourself]

I see a lot of people who complain about the Piranha being OP, citing how amazing it is on a GI. They also call for an encumbrance increase to compensate. However, weight doesn't matter that much to the classes which make the gun shine, such as the Destroyer, GI, or Turian Soldier.

This would only prevent caster classes from using the Piranha, and I don't understand how that would make the gun less effective in the hands of the weapons based classes, which is what most people complain about and use for examples of how a gun is "OP".

No matter what, there will be guns which will be amazing on weapons based classes and mediocre on other classes.

That being said, I'd be okay with the Piranha getting a small damage or ROF decrease. It would still be a great gun, and there would again be more variety of guns in lobbies for all classes.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

DNC Protoman wrote...

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

No. Don't nerf the Piranha.

Buff all the other guns to the same level.

Problem solved.

No.   The piranha's current level is too powerful. It's a problem.

Boo-goddamned-hoo. My way is at least fair to the playerbase. So here's a fun test we can do right now.

All future posters, give +1 DNC if you want to nerf the Piranha.

Give +1 Jaimas if you want to buff all the other guns instead.

Let the games begin.

[D Amiri]

megabeast37215 wrote...

D Amiri wrote...
Vanguards should be able to Charge and kill non-bosses with a shotgun in one cooldown and one clip. The Reegar, Piranha, and C.moore are the only shotgun that let you do that. You shouldn't be forced to have 4 or 5 sec plus Charge cooldown to have a decent shotgun as a VG.

GPS and Graal would like to have a word with you...

Both are excellent shotguns.  But they are heavy.  Without human 20% passive or Krogan/Cerberus shotgun passive both weapons at X give you a 4.08 sec Charge CD.  Plus they are charged shotguns which changes your play style.  The Charge, Shotgun, Melee playstyle from ME2 is really only effecient with the Reegar and the Piranha.  The Talon and Wraith are UR and the Crusader is promotional and heavy.