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m1lanov wrote...

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So why do you care how anyone else plays or uses a weapon class??? Play the way you play I will play my way and have fun. "STOP TRYING TO DICTATE MY STYLE OF PLAY" thank you...


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TSo and GI are completely ****ed if they have to fight close range with something as slow as claymore. Even with reload cancelling to get in that close with that weapon is suicidal. Cause even I miss sometimes, and then I have to pray.

And if claymore got nerfed, would anyone use it?

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Here`s a solution for you- leave it alone

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Kenadian wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

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This thread made me physically facepalm. If a weapon were even in need of an accuracy bonus, it is the shotgun. And I have never seen anybody complain about "sniping"(how can it be sniping without a sniper?) with shotguns. What's next? Snipers won't benefit from damage bonuses?


Sniping with shotguns is why we can't get good shotguns such as Piranha. I mean did you see Turian Marksman spread with it? It's a SINGLE BLACK DOT. With the most innaccurate shotgun. 


ITT: Rage over Marksman doing what it's supposed to do.


Precisely.

The whole point of Marksman is to turn really inaccurate weapons into accurate ones.

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 30 juillet 2012 - 07:00 .


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How come I'm scoring 150k AVERAGE against ANY enemy on EVERY map with GI + Claymore?

How come I'm sniping with Claymore across Hydra and one shotting anything with GI + Claymore, but I can't do that with Asari + Claymore because pellets miss?

ANSWER ME THIS!

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Found it. Just scroll down to Marksman/Smart Choke/Piranha.
http://social.biowar.../index/13291015

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chielhier313 wrote...

Here`s a solution for you- leave it alone


Yeah. And keep getting weapon nerfs? No Thanks.

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m1lanov wrote...

you have the best signature ever...


It kind of makes me want cotton candy.

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Air Quotes wrote...

Even if you don't hit the head, you hit the body. ALL THE time. With shieldgate ignoring pellets. One shoting Centurions/Marauders/Hunters/Pyros with GI before they can even target you


I doubt you can consistently one shot these enemies at the given distance. Pyros have ~5k armor+shields on gold, so you'd have to hit with 7/8 pellets. 

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No armours or VI's will ever tighten the spread of pellets. Physical mods built into the gun can.


We will never reach FTL speed. Oh, wait... 

My opinion in a nutshell: Leave my Turian Soldier alone, he sure as hell doesn't need a nerf of any kind. 

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Air Quotes wrote...

How come I'm scoring 150k AVERAGE against ANY enemy on EVERY map with GI + Claymore?

How come I'm sniping with Claymore across Hydra and one shotting anything with GI + Claymore, but I can't do that with Asari + Claymore because pellets miss?

ANSWER ME THIS!


Because your GI can't reave(which also hits instantly across the map, for multiple targets, provides damage mitigation, and sets up/detonates biotic explosions)?

Modifié par Aeqytas, 30 juillet 2012 - 07:04 .


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Air Quotes wrote...

How come I'm scoring 150k AVERAGE against ANY enemy on EVERY map with GI + Claymore?

How come I'm sniping with Claymore across Hydra and one shotting anything with GI + Claymore, but I can't do that with Asari + Claymore because pellets miss?

ANSWER ME THIS!


GI is a powerful glass cannon, coupling it with a literal cannon gets you good scores? Go figure. Air Quotes, the Claymore is a gun that requires skill to use. You can "snipe" with it but that matters **** all if you can't aim yourself. You got 150K+ because you're good with the gun.

Also, why would you use a Claymore on an Asari anyways? That aside, does the Asari have Hunter Mode? Can she divert her biotic energy away from her barriers into her targetting processors, movement speed and weapon's generators? Oh, right, she's not a Geth. Or a Destroyer with super advanced armour.

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I'd like to think that if you're using an accuracy boosting skill it should boost your accuracy. It isn't 'space magic' that makes the pellet spread tighter, it's game mechanics. Boosting accuracy makes inaccurate weapons better, that's the intended function.

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Aeqytas wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

How come I'm scoring 150k AVERAGE against ANY enemy on EVERY map with GI + Claymore?

How come I'm sniping with Claymore across Hydra and one shotting anything with GI + Claymore, but I can't do that with Asari + Claymore because pellets miss?

ANSWER ME THIS!


Because your GI can't reave(which also hits instantly across the map, for multiple targets, provides damage mitigation, and sets up/detonates biotic explosions)?


I kill faster with my sniping GI Claymore than ANYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME. From ANY RANGE. 

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Air Quotes wrote...

How come I'm scoring 150k AVERAGE against ANY enemy on EVERY map with GI + Claymore?

How come I'm sniping with Claymore across Hydra and one shotting anything with GI + Claymore, but I can't do that with Asari + Claymore because pellets miss?

ANSWER ME THIS!


Characters aren't equal. That's the point of having more than one character.

They can't for the same reason GIs can't shoot bubbles that freeze multiple enemies in place.

An Asari, with the right setup and skills will score highly too, just like the GI.


Diversity is beutiful. 

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 Throw this person out the airlock

Modifié par Anders028, 30 juillet 2012 - 07:08 .


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Air Quotes wrote...

Aeqytas wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

How come I'm scoring 150k AVERAGE against ANY enemy on EVERY map with GI + Claymore?

How come I'm sniping with Claymore across Hydra and one shotting anything with GI + Claymore, but I can't do that with Asari + Claymore because pellets miss?

ANSWER ME THIS!


Because your GI can't reave(which also hits instantly across the map, for multiple targets, provides damage mitigation, and sets up/detonates biotic explosions)?


I kill faster with my sniping GI Claymore than ANYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME. From ANY RANGE. 


Good thing too....since he is so squishy. 

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Why not make accuracy bonuses multiplicative in the next patch, so stacking accuracy bonuses stops breaking the game.

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I'd like to think that if you're using an accuracy boosting skill it should boost your accuracy. It isn't 'space magic' that makes the pellet spread tighter, it's game mechanics. Boosting accuracy makes inaccurate weapons better, that's the intended function.


Fine with Asault Rifles and SMG's. They fire one bullet at the time. So controlling recoil via Marksman or Hunter or Devastator modes is fine. Shotguns fire multiple pellets. They don't go tighter just because your good. 

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Air Quotes wrote...

chielhier313 wrote...

Here`s a solution for you- leave it alone


Yeah. And keep getting weapon nerfs? No Thanks.

They will get nerfed, and then buffed. I like it as much as the troll store.Posted Image

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Angelwave wrote...

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Aeqytas wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

How come I'm scoring 150k AVERAGE against ANY enemy on EVERY map with GI + Claymore?

How come I'm sniping with Claymore across Hydra and one shotting anything with GI + Claymore, but I can't do that with Asari + Claymore because pellets miss?

ANSWER ME THIS!


Because your GI can't reave(which also hits instantly across the map, for multiple targets, provides damage mitigation, and sets up/detonates biotic explosions)?


I kill faster with my sniping GI Claymore than ANYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME. From ANY RANGE. 


Good thing too....since he is so squishy. 


So what that's he a bit squishy? I don't get shot because I know where enemies are. And snipe them from ramge with a SHOTGUN. And get back into cover. Repeat. 

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Air Quotes wrote...

Bhatair wrote...

I'd like to think that if you're using an accuracy boosting skill it should boost your accuracy. It isn't 'space magic' that makes the pellet spread tighter, it's game mechanics. Boosting accuracy makes inaccurate weapons better, that's the intended function.


Fine with Asault Rifles and SMG's. They fire one bullet at the time. So controlling recoil via Marksman or Hunter or Devastator modes is fine. Shotguns fire multiple pellets. They don't go tighter just because your good. 


They don't get tighter 'just because you're good'. They get tighter because that's how the game mechanics work.
Did you forget this was an Action RPG? This isn't exactly based on reality.

Edit: by the way it isn't recoil that marksman/devastator mode effect on rapid fire guns, it's bullet spread just like shotguns.

Modifié par Bhatair, 30 juillet 2012 - 07:12 .


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Air Quotes wrote...

Angelwave wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Aeqytas wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

How come I'm scoring 150k AVERAGE against ANY enemy on EVERY map with GI + Claymore?

How come I'm sniping with Claymore across Hydra and one shotting anything with GI + Claymore, but I can't do that with Asari + Claymore because pellets miss?

ANSWER ME THIS!


Because your GI can't reave(which also hits instantly across the map, for multiple targets, provides damage mitigation, and sets up/detonates biotic explosions)?


I kill faster with my sniping GI Claymore than ANYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME. From ANY RANGE. 


Good thing too....since he is so squishy. 


So what that's he a bit squishy? I don't get shot because I know where enemies are. And snipe them from ramge with a SHOTGUN. And get back into cover. Repeat. 


Phantom sneaks up behind your field of vision and 3-shots you with her palm cannon. Repeat?

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Simple way to fix Sniping with Shotguns = Destroy all shotguns

Game fixed, lets move on, nothing to see here

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What's wrong with shotgun sniping? I can't begin to explain the joy I had in Bad Company 2 sniping with shotgun slugs. Difficult, and so rewarding. :D

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One-shotting a brute with a claymore across the map on gold/platinum? Without any debuffs on him (like proxy mine)? I'm sorry, but I doubt that is true.