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[RequiemPrime]

Omega2079 wrote...

sliverofamoon wrote...

A much simpler way would just be to buff sniper rifles so they are more appealing than a shotgun.

When the headshot bunses were removed from larger enemies, that's when I noticed a whole lot more shotgun infiltrators.

Same here.

[Pedactor]

sliverofamoon wrote...

A much simpler way would just be to buff sniper rifles so they are more appealing than a shotgun.

The problem isn't with Shotguns.

It's with Sniper Rifles.

The Javelin and Widow should be getting called out for nerfs for how hard they SHOULD hit, shielded enemy or not.

Outside of that, these guns have been beaten down, outside of the Indra, Black Widow, and Valiant, two of which are Ultra Rare and one is promotional.

If it is allowed for the Shotguns to bypass shieldgate, and not SR's, then that's the real question here:

And if the answer is Tactical Cloak, then the weapons need buffed and R6 TC B needs nerfed further than it already is.

You can't say "what about those just starting out," because the Mantis is a powerful gun.

[MacGarrus]

Yes, Shotguns are meant to be close range firearms. My suggestion for fixing the mixed feelings regarding the Piranha's rise to commodity is to impliment a maximum range for these weapons. Hitting something beyond this set range should create a significant damage penalty to prevent "shotgun snipers" from existing. Perhaps change the variable depending on each shotgun, large weapons like the Claymore having much better range than smaller ones such as the Disciple and Piranha. This would keep the Piranha functioning as the lethal CQC shotgun it is without crippling it completely.

As a side note, the slug firing Crusader should be exempt from this as it is designed to be able to fire at longer ranges

[Bleachrude]

I have to agree with spudspot airquotes.

Sure, there are times you can caught with your pants down but how often in a match is the "switching weapons" actually a drawback?

[Chaoswind]

No...

it would be better to add damage reductions based on distance (less damage over great distances).

[Kenadian]

Chaoswind wrote...

No...

it would be better to add damage reductions based on distance (less damage over great distances).

The lack of range in this game makes that a fairly bad idea. Given how little distance 22nd century shotguns have compared to 20th century ones already...I'm gonna say it seems like the right idea but not the right arena.

[Pedactor]

Everybody calling out for nerfs to Sniper Shotguns doesn't realize how absolutely terrible GI's would be and how very little damage Infiltrators in general will do........until they start seeing GI's running around with Pistols like the Paladin, Arc, Talon, and Carnifex and never realized what the truly overpowered guns were.

And you don't know what you are talking about if you think long-range shotguns don't exist.

There's flechette rounds and slugs that rival M-4's in range and accuracy.

Modifié par Pedactor, 30 juillet 2012 - 07:49 .

[Omega2079]

Air Quotes wrote...

chielhier313 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

chielhier313 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

chielhier313 wrote...

Here`s a solution for you- leave it alone

Yeah. And keep getting weapon nerfs? No Thanks.

They will get nerfed, and then buffed. I like it as much as the troll store.

We are getting weapon nerfs because GI's/Desroyers make them way too good. And people play GI's on Gold/Platinum. And beat those difficulties too easily. And then get weapons nerfed. Instead of tweaking the GI. So you get one weapon nerfed today, another one tomorrow. 

Aah, i see it now.
Bioware is jealous at the elitist who can do a solo run on platinum and therefore nerfing all the nice new guns

Elistist get bored of owning the game with the most powerful classes. So they get them nerfed with Biowares help. True.

Fighting bots really isn't that challenging. The game's mecanics just don't lend well to it being challenging.

All that's left is competing for kills. That makes some additional incentives, like a Krogan's high life and shields pointless on the high end of performance.

The nature of the game makes it so it will never be balanced on the high end.

[Satirist]

what weapon mods and gear do you use on a turian soldier to one-shot brutes on gold?

[Rokayt]

While something needs be done about the accuracy, your solution is unreasonable.

[Lucifuture]

If this is such, rather than nerf x amount of shotguns just buff a few sniper rifles or sniper mods?

[Rokayt]

Air Quotes wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

While something needs be done about the accuracy, your solution is unreasonable.

K. That's what discussion boards are for. Gimme a better one. I'll love you for that. 

Leaving everything alone is not an option. Nerfers and Bioware object that option.

I did, Making accuracy bonuses multiplicative.

So a 50% accuracy bonus with a another 50% accuracy bonus is +75% accuracy, not +100% accuracy.

That destroyer? 62.5% would be his maximum accuracy bonus.
Far from gamebreaking, but still a nice benifit, instead of simply being locked out of shotgun accuracy altogether.

Escentially, Yeah, it is a 25% accuracy bonus, but its actually 25% of whats left of your innacuracy, not 25% further form the maxiumum possible level of innacuracy.

[TheKillerAngel]

theSatirist wrote...

what weapon mods and gear do you use on a turian soldier to one-shot brutes on gold?

I do not think it's possible with a Turian soldier. I have played the class extensively and with a smart choke+damage, you can at best 2 shot a brute if you're lucky and use max gear/mods. Under most circumstances you will take anywhere from 25-40% of its HP with a shot.

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 30 juillet 2012 - 08:27 .

[Ziegrif]

I like my sniper shotguns -.-
Would force me to exclusively use the crusader then...

[xis3]

There is nothing wrong to snip with a shotgun because of the increasing acc, i mean, it's normal for a marksman no ?

There is a huge difference between a good and bad hunter in real life, the good one can shot birds miles away with a 60 years old shotgun, and this things fly far away than any of our MP map distance from corner to corner.

Getting the pellet smaller with more acc is a mechanical way IG, it's normal for a marksman !

[Pedactor]

Air Quotes wrote...

Lucifuture wrote...

If this is such, rather than nerf x amount of shotguns just buff a few sniper rifles or sniper mods?

Loop. Those Sniper Rifles will become even better on a GI. And we see GI snipers instead of GI shotgunners. Otr both. And then the game becomes too easy for them. 

So - weapon nerfs or enemy buffs. Buffed enemies require buffed weapons that were left behind. (and haven't been buffed to a usable state even)

So this entire post should be to nerf GI's.

And the answer is no, not every Infiltrator should be power-based.

You are complaining about Hunter-modes bonuses and the shield reduction is a perfectly fine tradeoff because you are speccing for duration for the type of damage bonuses you are talking about.

Sniper Rifles need a buff, but that doesn't mean that Shotguns need nerfed.

Modifié par Pedactor, 30 juillet 2012 - 08:34 .

[Lucifuture]

It would be nice if bioware gave us a few game options to pick from
1 No balance changes
2 nerfs only
3 buffs only
4 full balance

[Lucifuture]

Also I am so starting to use the crusader rather than the geth shotgun now