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#76
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Figures, that's my favorite gun :(

Same as mine,toghether with the destroyer(prolly gonna be nerfedImage IPB)

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I don´t even...
Aint BW do some testing before release? I mean why give us all this adorably powerfull weaponry and then nerf it to oblivion instead of balancing it right from the start?

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CptBomBom00 wrote...

thssss, there goes my best AR, hell I'm not even using SP's, SMG's, Shotguns, if ti gets nerfed so what the ****, am I supposed to use on Gold a freaking avenger??????????????????


Ok, here's a question... what did you use before it was added to the game one week ago?

Also, you act as if whatever nerf it could potentially receive will make it useless (nvmd that you don't even know what changes it will get). Say the damge gets nerfed by 10% (something that you can make up with a simple AR amp I)... will that really be the end of the world?

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samb wrote...

How many days until borderlands 2 comes out? This game is dead to me once it does.


Same here. Me and my friends will be playing it up once out.

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Lividliver wrote...

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The thought that they might nerf it makes me very sad. It's only really good on the Destroyer, because of his massive shields and rate of fire/damage/accuracy bonuses. On high difficulty, you can't really stay out of cover all that long on other characters to make it really worthwhile. Plus, it weighs a ton, so is really only viable on grenade or non-caster classes.

:crying: Please don't hurt my UR, BioWare.



Nerf the destroyer into the ground then.Either way,Bioware must have something to sacrifice to the nerf gods at the end of the day or calamity will befall of us.Try to be understanding of their position.


I find nerfs so very discouraging though. Do other games change stuff every week? :blink: This is the only MP game I have ever played for so many months, so I have nothing to compare it to.

What is the point of URs if they aren't better than all the other weapons anyway? :pinched:

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Hilarious. I unlocked it today and it is less satisfying than the Harrier. With the Piranha and the Acolyte needing balanced, I wouldn't have thought the Typhoon would see a second change this fast.

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they already almost killed it with a 75% nerf on AP ......... how is this OP? have a low dps, low ap and the only thing that makes it useful is the big ammo clip..... too overpowered? let me laugh xD

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ryoldschool wrote...

ntrisley wrote...

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bioware doesnt know a **** about the game. they feel its to srong nerf it to the ground, 90% of players think its good, ignore them.

You have no clue what "nerfing to the ground" means. You really don't.

And just because the players "think it's good" does not mean that it's not overpowered. "90% of players" thought the Krysae was good when it was first beginning its Meatchunking World Tour with Rebellion.

Now the players who said it was "balanced" at the time are complaining because they no longer have their instawin gun, and instead actually have to utilize a modicum of tactics to use it to the best effect.


says somebody who has not even played it yet.

What? Played with the Typhoon?

I don't need to play with the Typhoon personally. I have an entire group of regular individuals who I play with all who have Typhoons(lucky gits...).
I also have had the bad luck to have to carry bad players with low N7 ratings who think that having a Typhoon makes them a winner.
I've seen both sides of the coin with the Typhoon, that in the hands of a skilled player it is an absolute beast while in the hands of someone with no friggin' clue what they're doing it might as well be a doorstop.

Where do you get your statistics anyway???

Those weren't my statistics. It was using the poster's own example, which you just know he does not have exacting numbers for. The sentiment he's expressing is simply that "the majority of players who actually care enough to post on forums and have that individual item share this sentiment". When the Krysae came out, there were a few users(myself included) who had it maxed out to 10 within the first few days.

It was unstoppable. It still can be, provided you actually know what you're doing and don't expect the gun alone to carry you.

Why does that matter? Because in the "nerf" threads, I was right there saying that it did need it. It was ungodly strong, and a poorly designed and implemented weapon.

The simple fact of the matter is that the Typhoon is not the Krysae. But that would not change the big issue, which is that even if it were overpowered those who had it would fight tooth and nail to keep it at an overpowered state rather than admit that it might need to be balanced.

Modifié par ntrisley, 30 juillet 2012 - 06:58 .


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The Tempest has almost identical stats to it... I am a nerfduck, but this is ridiculous.

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Zjarcal wrote...

CptBomBom00 wrote...

thssss, there goes my best AR, hell I'm not even using SP's, SMG's, Shotguns, if ti gets nerfed so what the ****, am I supposed to use on Gold a freaking avenger??????????????????


Ok, here's a question... what did you use before it was added to the game one week ago?

Also, you act as if whatever nerf it could potentially receive will make it useless (nvmd that you don't even know what changes it will get). Say the damge gets nerfed by 10% (something that you can make up with a simple AR amp I)... will that really be the end of the world?


I was playing with HS and Mattock, but that didn't cut it for me, man thanks to the typhoon I'm now mostly 2nd or 1st not 3rd or 4th, on the score board.

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Optimistman wrote...

samb wrote...

How many days until borderlands 2 comes out? This game is dead to me once it does.


Same here. Me and my friends will be playing it up once out.

50 more days until we can throw Mass Effect 3 out the window ... Oh wait I already dide ....

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These weekly updates are really killing multiplayer.
Bioware does weekly nerfs, but doesn't address problems like the Banshee magnetic hand, random disconnects and other latency issues...
-_-
Oh well, it's their game. What can we do about it.

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CptBomBom00 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

CptBomBom00 wrote...

thssss, there goes my best AR, hell I'm not even using SP's, SMG's, Shotguns, if ti gets nerfed so what the ****, am I supposed to use on Gold a freaking avenger??????????????????


Ok, here's a question... what did you use before it was added to the game one week ago?

Also, you act as if whatever nerf it could potentially receive will make it useless (nvmd that you don't even know what changes it will get). Say the damge gets nerfed by 10% (something that you can make up with a simple AR amp I)... will that really be the end of the world?


I was playing with HS and Mattock, but that didn't cut it for me, man thanks to the typhoon I'm now mostly 2nd or 1st not 3rd or 4th, on the score board.


If the Mattock wasn't enough, you are doing something very wrong.

Besides, why do you care about your place in the scoreboard? :huh:

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Man,them bioware is gonna make me a paralyzed man with no way of commuting about again.I have no skillz to speak off so I initially relied on the reegar as a crutch to facemelt bosses and boost epeen score.....they took my crutch away.I then switched to my next crutch the krysae for AOE lols and even higher epeen score....they took away that too!

I only have 2 crutches left,the typhoon and the piranha.If they take away their awesomeness,this game will become too hard for me.I refuse to pick up skills.I just want to point,shoot and watch everything go down while my score sores through the roof.

Bioware,please have pity on the many casuals like me.Pls pls.

Modifié par Lividliver, 30 juillet 2012 - 07:00 .


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Heh...from yesterday on a Krysae thread.


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Strict31 wrote...

"And when everyone's super, no one will be."



And when everyone is bland as milquetoast there will be no reason to choose any one thing over another.

That's where this entire game is headed.


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cerberus1701 wrote...
And when everyone is bland as milquetoast there will be no reason to choose any one thing over another.

That's where this entire game is headed.



Paranoid much? For some reason the Krysae still plays really differenly than the Vindicator. But maybe it's just my imagination. Of course they're the same! Cause they got changed a bit, now they are so the same they are fused in a same-ity of same-ness.

I think you can relax. One no-longer-op gun isn't going to change the world grey.




No. Not paranoid. And hope you like milquetoast.

Modifié par cerberus1701, 30 juillet 2012 - 06:59 .


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[quote]ntrisley wrote...

[quote]pisonmison wrote...

bioware doesnt know a **** about the game. they feel its to srong nerf it to the ground, 90% of players think its good, ignore them.[/quote]
You have no clue what "nerfing to the ground" means. You really don't.

And just because the players "think it's good" does not mean that it's not overpowered. "90% of players" thought the Krysae was good when it was first beginning its Meatchunking World Tour with Rebellion.

Now the players who said it was "balanced" at the time are complaining because they no longer have their instawin gun, and instead actually have to utilize a modicum of tactics to use it to the best effect.

[/quot
Actually I used the krysea about 3 times total(wasn't really my thing) and I think it's terrible they nerfed it into oblivion. I wouldn't say it was balanced but as some one pointed out its PvE not PvP(so if your complaining that something is OP there is a good chance your just butthurt because you were outscored by it and are missing the point of ME3 MP anyway). Whenever a company "removes" some thing from a game by nerfing it( debuffing a weapon, class, power until it is not viable in game) it's really sad. I agree when a change makes you have to be more skilled to use something(TC anyone?) but that wasn't the case with the krysea and isn't the case  with the typhoon.IMHO 

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Zjarcal wrote...

CptBomBom00 wrote...

thssss, there goes my best AR, hell I'm not even using SP's, SMG's, Shotguns, if ti gets nerfed so what the ****, am I supposed to use on Gold a freaking avenger??????????????????


Ok, here's a question... what did you use before it was added to the game one week ago?

Also, you act as if whatever nerf it could potentially receive will make it useless (nvmd that you don't even know what changes it will get). Say the damge gets nerfed by 10% (something that you can make up with a simple AR amp I)... will that really be the end of the world?

When BioWare nerfs a gun. It isn't just a measily 10% nerf. It's a:
Cut the Rate of Fire down to 1/3 of what it used to be
Take away 1/3 of the damage
Reduce the ammo to about 2/3 of what it used to be
Make it weigh twice as much

Don't you learn?

Modifié par GGW KillerTiger, 30 juillet 2012 - 06:59 .


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Don't even have it yet :(

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[quote]WARMACHINE9 wrote...

[quote]ntrisley wrote...

[quote]pisonmison wrote...

bioware doesnt know a **** about the game. they feel its to srong nerf it to the ground, 90% of players think its good, ignore them.[/quote]
You have no clue what "nerfing to the ground" means. You really don't.

And just because the players "think it's good" does not mean that it's not overpowered. "90% of players" thought the Krysae was good when it was first beginning its Meatchunking World Tour with Rebellion.

Now the players who said it was "balanced" at the time are complaining because they no longer have their instawin gun, and instead actually have to utilize a modicum of tactics to use it to the best effect.


Actually I used the krysea about 3 times total(wasn't really my thing) and I think it's terrible they nerfed it into oblivion. I wouldn't say it was balanced but as some one pointed out its PvE not PvP(so if your complaining that something is OP there is a good chance your just butthurt because you were outscored by it and are missing the point of ME3 MP anyway). Whenever a company "removes" some thing from a game by nerfing it( debuffing a weapon, class, power until it is not viable in game) it's really sad. I agree when a change makes you have to be more skilled to use something(TC anyone?) but that wasn't the case with the krysea and isn't the case  with the typhoon.IMHO [/quote]Krysae was far from an insta win gun .......

I still say they way over nerfed it and I only used it twice sense it was released. The most recent nerf to it is why I stopped playing this game. Yea a nerf to a gun I don't use made me stop playing. BioWare stop being special needs kids with your balance changes. Learn to game design because you obviously don't know.

Modifié par GGW KillerTiger, 30 juillet 2012 - 07:02 .


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I'm more interested in your tabs... mwahahaha...

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GGW KillerTiger wrote...

Don't you learn?


I've learned that both the Falcon and Krysae are still perfectly good weapons for Gold.

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Crap, its my favorite UR as well, and really the best gun for the Destroyer and maybe a Turian Soldier. Love the gun, but you do have to run back and forth to ammo crates and when using it you are exposed for a bit (yes the destroyer shields cant take it, but on higher difficulties, it gets icy).

Hate to see a damage reduction, I mean, besides it being a ultra rare, its freaken heavy, and we don't have a fair amount of good assualt rifles.

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I would never use this weapon on any class that I use powers with because of how heavy it is and since I would only use it on my weapon heavy classes, it needs that damage to be useful. Without that, it's useless. I guess its back to the Harrier then. Thanks nerfers. I was so happy when I got the Typhoon.

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Don't worry.. the typhoon doesn't have exploding projectiles.. it probably won't be nerfed that much.. bw doesn't really like exploding stuff.. you can tell by looking at the falcon, the striker and finally the krysae..

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Chriss5688 wrote...

CptBomBom00 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

CptBomBom00 wrote...

thssss, there goes my best AR, hell I'm not even using SP's, SMG's, Shotguns, if ti gets nerfed so what the ****, am I supposed to use on Gold a freaking avenger??????????????????


Ok, here's a question... what did you use before it was added to the game one week ago?

Also, you act as if whatever nerf it could potentially receive will make it useless (nvmd that you don't even know what changes it will get). Say the damge gets nerfed by 10% (something that you can make up with a simple AR amp I)... will that really be the end of the world?


I was playing with HS and Mattock, but that didn't cut it for me, man thanks to the typhoon I'm now mostly 2nd or 1st not 3rd or 4th, on the score board.


If the Mattock wasn't enough, you are doing something very wrong.

Besides, why do you care about your place in the scoreboard? :huh:


Mattock is one of the most viable weapons on Gold. Clearly, you werent using it right ;)